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Re: [Pharo-dev] How to contribute [WAS: Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:50, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > 2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > >> Yeah, that part I can understand it. >> What I donât understand is what would be that. >> >> > Involving community is what social groups do for self-optimization and > evolution. > A model where people does not contribute code is the Microsoft EULA > license. > > > that stills does not says anything to me :) > > I don't get what you expect to read. OSS contributions is a very-well researched area and if your are contributing actively to the public goods, understading human capital is essential. The sustainability of open source communities relies on developers continuous voluntary contributions, that's why packages are made public to the community of users-developers. If you are continuously questioning intrinsinc or extrinsic motivators (as happened in a Smalltalk spanish mailing list) and putting inhibitors to contributing, basically you are promoting parallel branches. An example of such exclusion behavior is not considering an one-time contributor who are not involved in Pharo. Not all developers have time to learn and become familiar with the community formal or informal policies. A team working in a package (widely used by a community, and so, "Community Package") should not exclude contributions for the sake of commiter's popularity or frequency of team participation. > > >> Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub >> Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub >> >> > I cannot find PharoExtras in SmalltalkHub. > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras > > Thanks, it doesn't get listed when typing in the search toolbar. > Can I find from within image if a package belongs to Pharo or PharoExtras? > > > easy: if is a modification/addendum to the core, it goes to Pharo, if is > an external package (and part of the projects that we maintain), is > PharoExtras. > > Mmm, that's not what I asked :) > > > That information should be more visible somewhere. > > > probably, at least the links to smalltalkhub teams should be somewhere > visible. > but you know, time, etc., etc. :) > > Ok > > > >> we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that >> resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. >> >> For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue >> reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. >> For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + >> the *updated* configuration. >> >> All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? >> And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages. >> >> For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be >> added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev >> list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). >> >> > Ok, thanks. > > HernÃ¡n > > > >> Esteban >> >> On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: >> >> >> >> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have >> previously asked and nobody replied: >> >>> >> >>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html >> >> >> >> what is a âcommunity packageâ? >> >> >> > >> > The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community >> as possible. >> > >> > HernÃ¡n >> > >> > >> >> >> > >

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to contribute [WAS: Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:50, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Yeah, that part I can understand it. > What I donât understand is what would be that. > > > Involving community is what social groups do for self-optimization and evolution. > A model where people does not contribute code is the Microsoft EULA license. that stills does not says anything to me :) > > Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub > Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub > > > I cannot find PharoExtras in SmalltalkHub. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras > Can I find from within image if a package belongs to Pharo or PharoExtras? easy: if is a modification/addendum to the core, it goes to Pharo, if is an external package (and part of the projects that we maintain), is PharoExtras. > > That information should be more visible somewhere. probably, at least the links to smalltalkhub teams should be somewhere visible. but you know, time, etc., etc. :) > > > we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. > > For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. > For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration. > > All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? > And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages. > > For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). > > > Ok, thanks. > > HernÃ¡n > > > Esteban > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: > >> > >> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied: > >>> > >>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html > >> > >> what is a âcommunity packageâ? > >> > > > > The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible. > > > > HernÃ¡n > > > > > > >

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nautilus as default/only Systembrowser for pharo3

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> I really like Nautilus, the groups, the history navigation, the code panel with the color warning for >> long methods. It is good doing experiments with new or better developer tools. >> >> But some parts just looking as "quickly hacked into it", just to make it running. >> And there are bugs. >> Nautilus could need some refactoring/code cleanup. >> >> In my point of view, in a clean and stable pharo release, >> all smalltalks tools (browser debugger inspectro ...) should show you >> "look, thats the way of doing it in smalltalk /pharo". >> >> >> I would really like to more emphasis on "clean and stableâ. Oh yes. Now if somebody has 5 engineers that do not know what to do, I have some ideas :) > Yes.. the problem is not the âwantâ but the âdoââ¦ in the end we always need to manage > it with the limited resources we haveâ¦ + 1 This is why we should simplify and clean it. Stef

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] How to contribute [WAS: Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

2013/12/24 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Yeah, that part I can understand it. > What I donât understand is what would be that. > > Involving community is what social groups do for self-optimization and evolution. A model where people does not contribute code is the Microsoft EULA license. > Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub > Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub > > I cannot find PharoExtras in SmalltalkHub. Can I find from within image if a package belongs to Pharo or PharoExtras? That information should be more visible somewhere. > we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that > resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. > > For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue > reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. > For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + > the *updated* configuration. > > All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? > And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages. > > For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be > added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev > list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). > > Ok, thanks. HernÃ¡n > Esteban > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: > >> > >> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < > hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have > previously asked and nobody replied: > >>> > >>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html > >> > >> what is a âcommunity packageâ? > >> > > > > The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community > as possible. > > > > HernÃ¡n > > > > > > >

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] How to contribute [WAS: Re: WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

by Esteban Lorenzano

btw that also means that we do not accept code in the form of : simple packages (without configuration or Issue/SLICE), change sets or code in mail threads (something that happens a lot more than it should). On 24 Dec 2013, at 14:06, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, that part I can understand it. > What I donât understand is what would be that. > > Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub > Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub > > we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. > > For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. > For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration. > > All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? > And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages. > > For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). > > Esteban > > On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: >>> >>> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied: >>>> >>>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html >>> >>> what is a âcommunity packageâ? >>> >> >> The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible. >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> > >

Dec. 24, 2013

How to contribute [WAS: Re: [Pharo-users] WebClient Issues on Pharo 2.0]

by Esteban Lorenzano

Yeah, that part I can understand it. What I donât understand is what would be that. Packages part of pharo core are in in Pharo team in smalltalkhub Packages part of pharo extras are un PharoExtras team in smalltalkhub we, as core pharo developers take responsibility over the packages that resides there, and of course any contribution is welcome. For the stuff in Pharo team, you need to work in the form of âIssue reportâ and âSLICE providerâ. For the stuff in PharoExtras, you can provide just the package updates + the *updated* configuration. All PharoExtras projects should have a jenkins job in https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/? And you should take care that job is green after you commit your packages. For contribute in any of the teams, Pharo and PharoExtras you need to be added as team member, and that can be done just requiting it in pharo-dev list (which, btw, is a better place for this discussion). Esteban On 24 Dec 2013, at 13:57, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > El 24/12/2013 9:06, Esteban Lorenzano escribiÃ³: >> >> On 24 Dec 2013, at 12:34, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am interested in how to proceed about community packages. I have previously asked and nobody replied: >>> >>> http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-td4724820.html >> >> what is a âcommunity packageâ? >> > > The point of a community package is to involve as much of the community as possible. > > HernÃ¡n > >

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] PunQLite - a new NoSQL wrapper for Pharo

by Masashi UMEZAWA

Hi Sergi, Thank you for trying to install PunQLite. Actually, I've also found this error happening when I try to install PunQLite to the latest Pharo 3.0 beta image (30659). I've originally developed PunQLite on Pharo 3.0 alpha (30487) image. So I think some changes occurred between them. The error seems to be raised on kernel classes. Anyway, I've already reported the issue to the BTS. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12488/NBExternalTypeValue-ofType-float-ca… Regards, 2013/12/24 Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com>: >> 2013/12/24 Masashi UMEZAWA <masashi.umezawa(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've developed PunQLite. UnQLite NoSQL database binding for Pharo. >>> https://github.com/mumez/PunQLite >>> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MasashiUmezawa/PunQLite > > > Looks pretty cool, and I may have a couple of uses for it already! However, > I get this when trying to load it on a fresh 30659 image: > > IncompatibleLayoutConfig: Class with ByteLayout cannot be extended as slot. > > Cheers, > Sergi > -- [:masashi | ^umezawa]

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] PunQLite - a new NoSQL wrapper for Pharo

by Sergi Reyner

2013/12/24 Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> > Looks pretty cool, and I may have a couple of uses for it > already! However, I get this when trying to load it on a fresh 30659 image: > > IncompatibleLayoutConfig: Class with ByteLayout cannot be extended as slot. > Proceeding twice will finish loading it, but somehow it doesnÂ´t feel like a solution to me :) Cheers, Sergi

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] PunQLite - a new NoSQL wrapper for Pharo

by Sergi Reyner

> > 2013/12/24 Masashi UMEZAWA <masashi.umezawa(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi all, >> >> I've developed PunQLite. UnQLite NoSQL database binding for Pharo. >> https://github.com/mumez/PunQLite >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MasashiUmezawa/PunQLite > > Looks pretty cool, and I may have a couple of uses for it already! However, I get this when trying to load it on a fresh 30659 image: IncompatibleLayoutConfig: Class with ByteLayout cannot be extended as slot. Cheers, Sergi

Dec. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transparent colors with NBOpenGL?

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi 2013/12/24 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > > el1 := (R3CubeShape new color: (Color purple alpha: 0.2)) element. > el2 := (R3CubeShape new color: (Color purple alpha: 0.2)) element. > el1 makeTranslucent. Can it be automatic? Element has color which know about its transparency

Dec. 24, 2013