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Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Benjamin

If Linus Torvald is your model, then I quit Pharo :P Ben On 30 Dec 2013, at 17:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > please donât. > Democracy does not make sense. Do you think that linus is taking into account democracy vote when fixing core of linux? > > Stef > > >> Since we can inject javascript in fogbugz, we should give a try to add a voting system :P >> >> Ben >> >> On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 29 Dec 2013, at 23:34, btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: >>> >>>> Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>>>> >>>>> thatâs usually done by the integrators, but nothing prevents you to do it :) >>>>> >>>> I thought wider community involvement was encouraged for anyone to provide the peer review to move items to status Resolved Fix To Include >>>> with the integrators then moving it to status Resolved Fix Included (and then usually straight to Closed status) >>>> >>> >>> Yes, but for a real working system we would need a voting schemeâ¦ >>> >>> right now it matters not much as everything is manual, but of it would be automatic, it would be nice to have something like âtwo people >>> who are commuters say itâs goo then it is good to be integrated automaticallyâ.] >>> >>> >>> Right now the idea is that people can set the âfix to includeâ if they are 150% sure that is is a good change. Itâs better to just add a note >>> to the âfix review neededâ so then someone else will say âhe thinks itâs good, I double checked, so itâs goodâ. >>> >>> So, in short: we need a better system, but for now it kind of works. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

by jannik laval

Thank you for your answers guys. Jannik 2013/12/30 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the > interface. > > I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664 > > > > Here is a list of what I have: > > > > - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an > expression. This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the > selection with shift-arrow it works. > > It means that the selection with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the > same. > > > yes, known bug. Introduced by 12144 TextModel>>getSelection. The only > solution seems to be to revert tag for now: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection > > This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since > thursday due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet) > > > - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories > available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the > concerned repositories (2 or 3 max). > > > Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that > idea was good: > > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-add… > (this issue is from July) > > > > - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then > I select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to > save changes. > > > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes > (issue date: 22/11) > > In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue > tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems. > > > Marcus > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

please donât. Democracy does not make sense. Do you think that linus is taking into account democracy vote when fixing core of linux? Stef > Since we can inject javascript in fogbugz, we should give a try to add a voting system :P > > Ben > > On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On 29 Dec 2013, at 23:34, btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: >> >>> Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>>> >>>> thatâs usually done by the integrators, but nothing prevents you to do it :) >>>> >>> I thought wider community involvement was encouraged for anyone to provide the peer review to move items to status Resolved Fix To Include >>> with the integrators then moving it to status Resolved Fix Included (and then usually straight to Closed status) >>> >> >> Yes, but for a real working system we would need a voting schemeâ¦ >> >> right now it matters not much as everything is manual, but of it would be automatic, it would be nice to have something like âtwo people >> who are commuters say itâs goo then it is good to be integrated automaticallyâ.] >> >> >> Right now the idea is that people can set the âfix to includeâ if they are 150% sure that is is a good change. Itâs better to just add a note >> to the âfix review neededâ so then someone else will say âhe thinks itâs good, I double checked, so itâs goodâ. >> >> So, in short: we need a better system, but for now it kind of works. >> >> Marcus >> >> >

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Marcus Denker

On 30 Dec 2013, at 15:24, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Since we can inject javascript in fogbugz, we should give a try to add a voting system :P > that would be nice .. :-) Marcus

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

by Craig Latta

Nice! -C -- Craig Latta www.netjam.org/resume +1 510 984 8117 (Skype rings this until 31 January 2014)

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] Thank you for Pharo

by kilon alios

" We all appreciate when Pharo is useful. But it is not yet finished (if it ever will) and you are welcome to help moving it forward as yet another crazy guy. Step by step it goes ..." Fortunately their are plenty of "crazy" people to prove "logical" people wrong and drive progress forward. Here is a nice article about them. http://listverse.com/2007/10/28/top-30-failed-technology-predictions/ I will also like to thank pharo people for their work. Sorry if I have replied to this thread before I have a bad memory. I started pharo like a "crazy" experiment, I never expected that I would abandon a well established , supported and popular programming language like python for pharo. The plan was simple to "steal ideas" from pharo and port them to python on the premise that I would like several things that would be doable by one person. Then I discovered more and more things I liked that became complete insane to even imagine that I could port all these things to python. I certainly did not want to abandon the comfort of python and learn things from scratch but I was completely hooked with how amazing pharo is. So here I am, I only hope I do my very small part to push pharo forward, with my project Ephestos and small bug fixes here and there. Still long way to go to really understand pharo and its libraries but as you so wisely said step by step I am moving forward and that can only be a good thing.

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo

by Esteban Lorenzano

looks coolâ¦ but it does not works in 3.0 :( in any case, I vote to include the UI part (at least) in the new-pharo-ide :) Esteban On 30 Dec 2013, at 15:26, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Cool :P > > Did you had a look at: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/New-Pharo-IDE/ > There is also a Spotlight thingy there :) > > Ben > > On 30 Dec 2013, at 15:23, Sean DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > >> I needed an entry completion with groups, like Mac's Spotlight. While I was at it, I figured it would also be useful as a UI for the existing Spotlight. So I made a SpotlightMorph, which is a very Mac-like stand-alone Morph, which is a textField + results morph, and an adaptor for EntryCompetion, SpotlightEntryCompletion, which can be passed to #entryCompletion: >> >> A short screencast will be available at https://vimeo.com/82953583 in about 45 minutes. >> >> And here's a screenshot for the impatient ;) >> >> <Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 9.23.02 AM.png> >> >> To load (tested in Pharo 2.0 latest): >> Gofer it >> smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'SeansPlayground'; >> package: 'Spotlight'; >> load. >> >> Then try: >> SpotlightCompletionExample open. >> or >> SpotlightMorphExample exampleFileSearch. >> or >> SpotlightMorphExample exampleSmalltalkSearch. >

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo

by Benjamin

Cool :P Did you had a look at: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/New-Pharo-IDE/ There is also a Spotlight thingy there :) Ben On 30 Dec 2013, at 15:23, Sean DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > I needed an entry completion with groups, like Mac's Spotlight. While I was at it, I figured it would also be useful as a UI for the existing Spotlight. So I made a SpotlightMorph, which is a very Mac-like stand-alone Morph, which is a textField + results morph, and an adaptor for EntryCompetion, SpotlightEntryCompletion, which can be passed to #entryCompletion: > > A short screencast will be available at https://vimeo.com/82953583 in about 45 minutes. > > And here's a screenshot for the impatient ;) > > <Screen Shot 2013-12-30 at 9.23.02 AM.png> > > To load (tested in Pharo 2.0 latest): > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'SeansPlayground'; > package: 'Spotlight'; > load. > > Then try: > SpotlightCompletionExample open. > or > SpotlightMorphExample exampleFileSearch. > or > SpotlightMorphExample exampleSmalltalkSearch.

Dec. 30, 2013

Spotlight Demo

by Sean DeNigris

I needed an entry completion with groups, like Mac's Spotlight. While I was at it, I figured it would also be useful as a UI for the existing Spotlight. So I made a SpotlightMorph, which is a very Mac-like stand-alone Morph, which is a textField + results morph, and an adaptor for EntryCompetion, SpotlightEntryCompletion, which can be passed to #entryCompletion: A short screencast will be available at https://vimeo.com/82953583 in about 45 minutes. And here's a screenshot for the impatient ;) To load (tested in Pharo 2.0 latest): Gofer it smalltalkhubUser: 'SeanDeNigris' project: 'SeansPlayground'; package: 'Spotlight'; load. Then try: SpotlightCompletionExample open. or SpotlightMorphExample exampleFileSearch. or SpotlightMorphExample exampleSmalltalkSearch.

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Benjamin

Since we can inject javascript in fogbugz, we should give a try to add a voting system :P Ben On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:12, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 29 Dec 2013, at 23:34, btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: > >> Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >>> >>> thatâs usually done by the integrators, but nothing prevents you to do it :) >>> >> I thought wider community involvement was encouraged for anyone to provide the peer review to move items to status Resolved Fix To Include >> with the integrators then moving it to status Resolved Fix Included (and then usually straight to Closed status) >> > > Yes, but for a real working system we would need a voting schemeâ¦ > > right now it matters not much as everything is manual, but of it would be automatic, it would be nice to have something like âtwo people > who are commuters say itâs goo then it is good to be integrated automaticallyâ.] > > > Right now the idea is that people can set the âfix to includeâ if they are 150% sure that is is a good change. Itâs better to just add a note > to the âfix review neededâ so then someone else will say âhe thinks itâs good, I double checked, so itâs goodâ. > > So, in short: we need a better system, but for now it kind of works. > > Marcus > >

Dec. 30, 2013