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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

by Marcus Denker

On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Marcus Denker-4 wrote >>> - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories >>> available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the >>> concerned repositories (2 or 3 max). >>> >> Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that >> idea was good: >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-add… >> (this issue is from July) > > I commented in the issue: > +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether there > is an unseen purpose or this is a bug? > I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite, then itâs fixed with no problems for those wanting the other behaviour. Marcus

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Marcus Denker

On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:10, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 30.12.2013 um 19:41 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >> >>> If Linus Torvald is your model, then I quit Pharo :P >> >> I will tell you stories where democracy in open-source does not work in feb. >> > Between Linus Torvalds and a democrazy variant that leads only to stagnation is plenty of room for a model that fits best. > exactly. Marcus

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:10, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 30.12.2013 um 19:41 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >> >>> If Linus Torvald is your model, then I quit Pharo :P >> >> I will tell you stories where democracy in open-source does not work in feb. >> > Between Linus Torvalds and a democrazy variant that leads only to stagnation is plenty of room for a model that fits best. the problem with linux is not the ruling model linux has, is Linus Torvalds attitude: He completely forgot about the âbenevolentâ word in âbenevolent dictatorshipâ :) Esteban > > Norbert > >

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] FogBugz status change

by Norbert Hartl

Am 30.12.2013 um 19:41 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > >> If Linus Torvald is your model, then I quit Pharo :P > > I will tell you stories where democracy in open-source does not work in feb. > Between Linus Torvalds and a democrazy variant that leads only to stagnation is plenty of room for a model that fits best. Norbert

Dec. 31, 2013

Pharo on #code2013

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Letâs promote Pharo by tweeting: âPharo #code2013â Cheers! Happy new year. Uko

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Alex this is not the debugger this is the selection Have a look at issue 12144 load it and tell us. Now we have a problem of instability of the latest vm on our servers so the integration is stalled. I spent 3 hours yesterday trying to move on and we will rollback to an older VM. Stef On 30 Dec 2013, at 23:02, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi! > > I have faced a serious situation with the debugger today with Pharo 3.0: > 1 - Open a workspace, and doit on the expression: 1 + 4. self halt > 2 - Open the debugger, select with the mouse the expression 1 + 4 and press Cmd-p > 3 - the debugger apparently consider the word halt as a variable. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12545/Debugger-broken > > Since I am using GTDebugger (in the Moose image), I have not seen it before... > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Nicolai Alexandre > Le 30-12-2013 Ã 19:37, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> a Ã©crit : > > Actually it is the text selection that is broken, > > caused by 12144 and will be fixed with 12521 (waits for integration). > > BTW, I don't know if it is platform related, but on windows you can actually > use CMD-P (ALT-P) for "print it", just using "print it" from the menu does not work. > > Nicolai > > > > > 2013/12/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> Hi! >> >> I have faced a serious situation with the debugger today with Pharo 3.0: >> 1 - Open a workspace, and doit on the expression: 1 + 4. self halt >> 2 - Open the debugger, select with the mouse the expression 1 + 4 and press Cmd-p >> 3 - the debugger apparently consider the word halt as a variable. >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12545/Debugger-broken >> >> Since I am using GTDebugger (in the Moose image), I have not seen it before... >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] towards moose in the pharo ide (gtinspector / gtdebugger)

by Alexandre Bergel

I am quasi exclusively using the Moose image, which includes GTDebugger and GTInspector. These are two great tools. I use the standard Pharo 3.0 for particular needs only. When I do this, it is like using Nautilus and coming back to OB (or even the old standard browser). GTDebugger and GTInspector are great. I like them. Alexandre On Dec 30, 2013, at 2:24 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Some of you asked how the GTInspector and GTDebugger are different from the existing infrastructure. They are quite different from the norm in that: they are tiny, and they are highly extensible. Here are some posts that describe what makes them different: > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructe… > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dissecting-the-gtinspector/ > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/extending-variables-shown-in-gtinspec… > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/moldable-gtdebugger > > These tools are already the default development tools in the Moose image. As you can see, Moose is reshaping the Pharo IDE. I think this is exciting. > > This should be just the beginning. To make it better, we need your energy: > - Apply and extend these tools for your context (this is what makes them unique). > - Tell us what works and what does not work. > - Ideally, start working with us on this topic. In particular, I am looking for people that would like to spend some time working on Morphic widgets. > > It's your turn now. > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 30, 2013

Re: [Pharo-dev] debugger broken?

by Nicolai Hess

Actually it is the text selection that is broken, caused by 12144 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12144> and will be fixed with 12521 <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12521> (waits for integration). BTW, I don't know if it is platform related, but on windows you can actually use CMD-P (ALT-P) for "print it", just using "print it" from the menu does not work. Nicolai <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12521> 2013/12/30 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Hi! > > I have faced a serious situation with the debugger today with Pharo 3.0: > 1 - Open a workspace, and doit on the expression: 1 + 4. self halt > 2 - Open the debugger, select with the mouse the expression 1 + 4 and > press Cmd-p > 3 - the debugger apparently consider the word halt as a variable. > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12545/Debugger-broken > > Since I am using GTDebugger (in the Moose image), I have not seen it > before... > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Dec. 30, 2013

debugger broken?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I have faced a serious situation with the debugger today with Pharo 3.0: 1 - Open a workspace, and doit on the expression: 1 + 4. self halt 2 - Open the debugger, select with the mouse the expression 1 + 4 and press Cmd-p 3 - the debugger apparently consider the word halt as a variable. https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12545/Debugger-broken Since I am using GTDebugger (in the Moose image), I have not seen it before... Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 30, 2013