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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo3 Status Video from Fosdem on Youtube

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 09 Feb 2014, at 17:52, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi, > > The Pharo3 Status presentation is online: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=son_bhZ93ec > > > Marcus Thx, Marcus, very nice: the talk and the recording !

Feb. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Difficult to Track Changes

by Benjamin

This change occurred like 6 months ago :) (ok maybe 3 :P ) And this is not related to NewList at all Ben On 09 Feb 2014, at 07:57, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > It seems ListComposableModel was replaced by ListModel in Pharo 3.0. This is > a significant non-backward-compatible change, yet it was extremely difficult > to find out what was going on - no hits searching the mailing lists and the > Issue "10462: Add SpecModel for NewList" says nothing about removing > ListComposableModel. I think it's important to think "how are users going to > figure out wth happened here" when we make changes like this. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Difficult-to-Track-Changes-tp4742400.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Feb. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Difficult to Track Changes

by Pharo4Stef

Hi sean Now Iâm not sure that this was a good move even if ben worked a lot on the new list because alain told me that he had some concerns about the logic (but that since he cannot help he did not want to say anything) for drwaing elements and this impacted his code. Stef On 09 Feb 2014, at 07:57, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > It seems ListComposableModel was replaced by ListModel in Pharo 3.0. This is > a significant non-backward-compatible change, yet it was extremely difficult > to find out what was going on - no hits searching the mailing lists and the > Issue "10462: Add SpecModel for NewList" says nothing about removing > ListComposableModel. I think it's important to think "how are users going to > figure out wth happened here" when we make changes like this. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Difficult-to-Track-Changes-tp4742400.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Feb. 9, 2014

Pharo3 Status Video from Fosdem on Youtube

by Marcus Denker

Hi, The Pharo3 Status presentation is online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=son_bhZ93ec Marcus

Feb. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nice chapter on NativeBoost

by Pharo4Stef

> > Read the chapter there is an install on ma section > :) > > oh.. so you added it. yes and I added a lot more from the original version you read :) > because i don't remember seeing it before (and my attention was focused on other parts) > > !!! To install X11 on Mac > If you are on Mac OSX you can try one of the following way to install X11. Based on our experience, the last one seems more reliable. > [[[ > sudo port install xorg-libX11 > sudo port -v install xorg-server > http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/ > ]]] > > Once install open a new shell and type ==xeye&== you should get the famous eye application looking at you. > > Oh, do not forget to save your image quite often, a crash can easily occur if we make some mistake on this field! > > > > > > On 08 Feb 2014, at 09:43, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Stef for this chapter very much it really opened my eyes to a new potential. >> >> X11 is no longer included in MacOS -> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5293 >> >> Thats the bad news >> >> The good news is that libraries like GTK which was the big reason to use X11 on macos like GIMP now use the Quartz backend of X11. Quartz allow you to have native look GUI on macos. >> So now all GTK apps can feel native on MACOS. >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 7 February 2014 21:41, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> today igor helped me to understand some hidden part of NativeBoost and we massively revisited and expanded the chapter started >> by L. Laffont this summer. Now you this is up to you to expand your knowledge :) It was really fun to get the X11 window resize and move :) >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… >> >> Enjoy. >> >> Hehe, even i learned something today, that actually you can play with X11 even on Mac, because it has X11 support installed out of the box. >> (Btw, Stef you probably should mention that in chapter, especially details if you need to install something extra or not). >> >> >> Stef and Igor >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 9, 2014

The truth on GSOC, ESUG and bad attitude

by Luc Fabresse

Hi all, ------------ FACTS As you all know, I am the ESUG treasurer. So please find the numbers attached for the ESUG support of GSOC projects in 2013. ESUG sponsored 3 "extra-GSOC" meaning extra slots not accepted by Google. In the file it is: Alejandro Infante, Pablo Estefo and Benjamin Arezki. All in all we paid: - 3695EUR (~5000USD at that time i.e. same cost as a regular GSOC) each projects - Serge trip to Mentor summit And we received 5552EUR from Google so yes we lost ~6582EUR That is easy 13*500 USD would only cover 1 plain extra-Gsoc and we sponsorized 3. I also think that it is important to send someone to the GSoc mentor summit because it participates to the fact that Google recognizes ESUG ang gives slots the next year. It is alos important to note dates. ESUG paid first and then has been refund by Google. It would not be possible to do it without ESUG. ------------ FROM HERE, MY POINT OF VIEW ON THIS STORY: As some of you know, I doing the ESUG treasury stuff on my *own* time and it takes a lot! I am doing it because I strongly believe that Smalltalk (all falvors!) is a really great language that should be more widespread. I also completely open to discussions. The ESUG board can also explain its actions and even money status. I can do errors too. So if Janko wants some details on GSOC related money, JUST ASK! I cannot admit that: - Janko wrote about some money accusation. This is directly directed against the treasurer so me. And honestly, just reading again that I am biased and that I hide or steal money make me think that I should better quit. - Janko asked for apologies! what is that? even if I would have done a mistake (and ESUG did not loose money), YOU STILL MUST THANK ME for DOING THIS BORING TASK! and then I can correct mistakes if any - People wants an answer fast, this conversation started yesterday and I am spending my week-end with my kids I am really fed up with this kind of attitude. Stop accuse, better ask, discuss and we will solve the problems together if any. But I think it will never happen... #Luc The disgusted Treasurer of ESUG who will finish his week-end in bad mood

Feb. 9, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/30752 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Feb. 9, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] b26edc: 30752

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Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: b26edca3df237617fef3793ee6704d001314b0bc https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/b26edca3df237617fef3793e… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2014-02-09 (Sun, 09 Feb 2014) Changed paths: A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script405.st A ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update30752.st M ScriptLoader30.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/class/instance creation/modify_extend_withLayoutType_slots_sharedVariables_sharedPools_traitComposition_compactClassIndex_.st R Slot.package/ClassModification.class/class/instance creation/modify_extend_withLayoutType_slots_traitComposition_compactClassIndex_.st M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/definition.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/accessing/sharedPools.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/accessing/sharedPools_.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/accessing/sharedVariables.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/accessing/sharedVariables_.st M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/isPropagation.st M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesFormat.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesSharedPools.st A Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesSharedVariables.st M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesSlots.st M Slot.package/ClassModification.class/instance/testing/modifiesSuperclass.st M Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/initialize-release/build.st A Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/private/applyAndUpdateSharedVariableOrSharedPool_.st A Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/private/applySharedVariableOrPoolChange_.st M Slot.package/SlotClassBuilder.class/instance/private/apply_.st A SlotTests.package/SlotAnnouncementsTest.class/instance/tests/testChangeInSharedPoolShouldAnnounceClassModified.st A SlotTests.package/SlotAnnouncementsTest.class/instance/tests/testChangeInSharedVariablesAndSharedPoolsShouldAnnounceClassModified.st A SlotTests.package/SlotAnnouncementsTest.class/instance/tests/testChangeInSharedVariablesShouldAnnounceClassModified.st M Tools.package/FileList.class/class/modal dialogs/modalFolderSelector_.st M Tools.package/FileList.class/class/morphic ui/morphicViewFolderSelector_.st M Tools.package/FileList.class/instance/file menu action/addNew_byEvaluating_.st A Tools.package/FileList.class/instance/initialization/folderSelectButtonRow.st A Tools.package/FileList.class/instance/private/getSelectedFolder.st M Tools.package/FileList.class/instance/private/updateFileList.st M Tools.package/MethodFinder.class/instance/initialize/initialize.st Log Message: ----------- 30752 12830 MethodFinderTest>>testPower https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12830 11579 When adding a class variable, the monticello package is not dirty https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11579 12500 No accept/ok button in FileList https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12500 http://files.pharo.org/image/30/30752.zip

Feb. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Nice chapter on NativeBoost

by Igor Stasenko

On 8 February 2014 13:56, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Read the chapter there is an install on ma section > :) > > oh.. so you added it. because i don't remember seeing it before (and my attention was focused on other parts) > !!! To install X11 on Mac > If you are on Mac OSX you can try one of the following way to install X11. > Based on our experience, the last one seems more reliable. > [[[ > sudo port install xorg-libX11 > sudo port -v install xorg-server > http://xquartz.macosforge.org/landing/ > ]]] > > Once install open a new shell and type ==xeye&== you should get the famous > eye application looking at you. > > Oh, do not forget to save your image quite often, a crash can easily occur > if we make some mistake on this field! > > > > > > On 08 Feb 2014, at 09:43, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you Stef for this chapter very much it really opened my eyes to a > new potential. > > X11 is no longer included in MacOS -> http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5293 > > Thats the bad news > > The good news is that libraries like GTK which was the big reason to use > X11 on macos like GIMP now use the Quartz backend of X11. Quartz allow you > to have native look GUI on macos. > So now all GTK apps can feel native on MACOS. > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 7 February 2014 21:41, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> today igor helped me to understand some hidden part of NativeBoost and >>> we massively revisited and expanded the chapter started >>> by L. Laffont this summer. Now you this is up to you to expand your >>> knowledge :) It was really fun to get the X11 window resize and move :) >>> >>> >>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… >>> >>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… >>> >>> Enjoy. >>> >> >> Hehe, even i learned something today, that actually you can play with X11 >> even on Mac, because it has X11 support installed out of the box. >> (Btw, Stef you probably should mention that in chapter, especially >> details if you need to install something extra or not). >> >> >>> >>> Stef and Igor >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Feb. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Need a good video about smalltalk

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 07/02/2014 23:35, Igor Stasenko a Ã©crit : > > Any recommendations? > Whatever the content, find a nice voice to vocally comment. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 9, 2014