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Re: [Pharo-dev] New methods for the String class

by Eliot Miranda

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 24.02.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel<alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > > wrote: > >> Would be great to have: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal' chopCamel => >> #('Configuration' 'Of' 'Roassal'). >> > > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal' piecesCutWhere: [:a :b| a isLowercase and: [b > isUppercase]] an OrderedCollection('Configuration' 'Of' 'Roassal') > > It's too trivial, surely. > > > No it is not. Because you have to know about it. Thanks for that one. > > "I learned something today[tm]" > But the real things to learn are the Method Finder and the browser. Adding a lot of names that are known to those that know some scripting language du jour, but are incomprehensible to me, and no doubt many others, is not doing anything for anybody, except trying to be pointlessly cool. Trying to encourage programmers to use the ability of the system to self-introspect and self-document is giving them general skills they can build upon. So a project to improve the UI so that programmers are led to tools they can use for discovery seems worth-while to me, while adding yet more short-hand to hand-hold the ignorant isn't helping, IMHO. > Norbert > > >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Daniela Meneses <daniela11290(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi to all, >> > >> > As you may know I'm working on in some improvements for the String >> class. Until now I implemented some missing tests. Right now I'm looking >> forward to add new methods that could be useful based on Ruby API ( >> http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.0/String.html) These are a few of the >> methods that I'm planning to implement: >> > >> > * chomp(separator=$/) -> new_str >> > * chop() -> new_str >> > * ljust(integer, padstr='') ->new_str >> > * next -> new_str >> > * partition(sep) -> [head, sep, tail] >> > >> > Could you help to find out if these methods are already available for >> the String class? >> > >> > If you have any idea of new methods for the string class, will be >> really welcome. >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Daniela Meneses >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > best, > Eliot > > > -- best, Eliot

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] New methods for the String class

by Norbert Hartl

Am 24.02.2014 um 22:19 schrieb Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>: > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel<alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Would be great to have: âConfigurationOfRoassalâ chopCamel => #(âConfigurationâ âOfâ âRoassalâ). > > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal' piecesCutWhere: [:a :b| a isLowercase and: [b isUppercase]] an OrderedCollection('Configuration' 'Of' 'Roassal') > > It's too trivial, surely. > No it is not. Because you have to know about it. Thanks for that one. "I learned something today[tm]â Norbert > > Alexandre > > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Daniela Meneses <daniela11290(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > > As you may know I'm working on in some improvements for the String class. Until now I implemented some missing tests. Right now I'm looking forward to add new methods that could be useful based on Ruby API (http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.0/String.html) These are a few of the methods that I'm planning to implement: > > > > â¢ chomp(separator=$/) -> new_str > > â¢ chop() -> new_str > > â¢ ljust(integer, padstr='') ->new_str > > â¢ next -> new_str > > â¢ partition(sep) -> [head, sep, tail] > > > > Could you help to find out if these methods are already available for the String class? > > > > If you have any idea of new methods for the string class, will be really welcome. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Daniela Meneses > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > -- > best, > Eliot

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTPlayground

by Alexandre Bergel

Grrrâ¦. Syndrome of having tools not adequate to package application. Pity. Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Alejandro Infante <alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just tried to copy and paste the script to load the GTPlayground on a clean Pharo 3.0 image and got this warning: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This package depends on the following classes: > EyeContextInspector > RTView > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: > EyeDebuggerContextInspector > gtInspectorViewIn: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Am I missing something obvious? > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > > 2014-02-24 13:11 GMT-08:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > > Can this be tested on a vanilla Pharo 3.0 image? > > Yes. > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructed > > The following script should work: > > Gofer new > url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/GToolkit/main'; > configuration; > load. > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfGToolkit) loadDevelopment > (Smalltalk globals at: #GTInspector) registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools. > (Smalltalk globals at: #GTPlayground) registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools. > > > > I still don't get the "moose image" vs "pharo image" separation. I > > thought Moose was installable, as any other package is :) > > Moose is installable as any other software. The reason for having a Moose image is essentially due to the long time taken by moose to be loaded. > In addition, the moose image comes with a theme. > > Alexandre > > > > > > Regards! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > > > > 2014-02-24 17:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> Hi! > >> > >> Now I am back from holidays, I am catching up with what happens during that February. > >> My first surprise is GTPlayground, packaged with the Moose image. > >> > >> This is really cool stuff. I have never thought that the workspace could be such a primitive tool. GTPlayground greatly enhances my workflow when I am in a workspace. Managing variables is still missing apparently, but this is clearly a great match with my dream of a cool Pharo. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTPlayground

by Alejandro Infante

Just tried to copy and paste the script to load the GTPlayground on a clean Pharo 3.0 image and got this warning: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This package depends on the following classes: EyeContextInspector RTView You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: EyeDebuggerContextInspector gtInspectorViewIn: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Am I missing something obvious? Cheers, Alejandro 2014-02-24 13:11 GMT-08:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > > Can this be tested on a vanilla Pharo 3.0 image? > > Yes. > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructed > > The following script should work: > > Gofer new > url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/GToolkit/main'; > configuration; > load. > (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfGToolkit) loadDevelopment > (Smalltalk globals at: #GTInspector) registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools. > (Smalltalk globals at: #GTPlayground) registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools. > > > > I still don't get the "moose image" vs "pharo image" separation. I > > thought Moose was installable, as any other package is :) > > Moose is installable as any other software. The reason for having a Moose > image is essentially due to the long time taken by moose to be loaded. > In addition, the moose image comes with a theme. > > Alexandre > > > > > > Regards! > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > > > > 2014-02-24 17:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> Hi! > >> > >> Now I am back from holidays, I am catching up with what happens during > that February. > >> My first surprise is GTPlayground, packaged with the Moose image. > >> > >> This is really cool stuff. I have never thought that the workspace > could be such a primitive tool. GTPlayground greatly enhances my workflow > when I am in a workspace. Managing variables is still missing apparently, > but this is clearly a great match with my dream of a cool Pharo. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Alexandre > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] New methods for the String class

by Alexandre Bergel

Sure, the hardest part of the work is not really about implementing the functionalities, but providing good method names, good comments and relevant examples. Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Would be great to have: âConfigurationOfRoassalâ chopCamel => #(âConfigurationâ âOfâ âRoassalâ). > > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal' piecesCutWhere: [:a :b| a isLowercase and: [b isUppercase]] an OrderedCollection('Configuration' 'Of' 'Roassal') > > It's too trivial, surely. > > > Alexandre > > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Daniela Meneses <daniela11290(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > > As you may know I'm working on in some improvements for the String class. Until now I implemented some missing tests. Right now I'm looking forward to add new methods that could be useful based on Ruby API (http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.0/String.html) These are a few of the methods that I'm planning to implement: > > > > â¢ chomp(separator=$/) -> new_str > > â¢ chop() -> new_str > > â¢ ljust(integer, padstr='') ->new_str > > â¢ next -> new_str > > â¢ partition(sep) -> [head, sep, tail] > > > > Could you help to find out if these methods are already available for the String class? > > > > If you have any idea of new methods for the string class, will be really welcome. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Daniela Meneses > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > -- > best, > Eliot -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] New methods for the String class

by Eliot Miranda

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>wrote: > Would be great to have: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal' chopCamel => > #('Configuration' 'Of' 'Roassal'). > 'ConfigurationOfRoassal' piecesCutWhere: [:a :b| a isLowercase and: [b isUppercase]] an OrderedCollection('Configuration' 'Of' 'Roassal') It's too trivial, surely. > > Alexandre > > > On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Daniela Meneses <daniela11290(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi to all, > > > > As you may know I'm working on in some improvements for the String > class. Until now I implemented some missing tests. Right now I'm looking > forward to add new methods that could be useful based on Ruby API ( > http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.0/String.html) These are a few of the > methods that I'm planning to implement: > > > > * chomp(separator=$/) -> new_str > > * chop() -> new_str > > * ljust(integer, padstr='') ->new_str > > * next -> new_str > > * partition(sep) -> [head, sep, tail] > > > > Could you help to find out if these methods are already available for > the String class? > > > > If you have any idea of new methods for the string class, will be really > welcome. > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Daniela Meneses > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- best, Eliot

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTPlayground

by Alexandre Bergel

> Can this be tested on a vanilla Pharo 3.0 image? Yes. http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/the-moldable-gtinspector-deconstructed The following script should work: Gofer new url: 'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/GToolkit/main'; configuration; load. (Smalltalk globals at: #ConfigurationOfGToolkit) loadDevelopment (Smalltalk globals at: #GTInspector) registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools. (Smalltalk globals at: #GTPlayground) registerToolsOn: Smalltalk tools. > I still don't get the "moose image" vs "pharo image" separation. I > thought Moose was installable, as any other package is :) Moose is installable as any other software. The reason for having a Moose image is essentially due to the long time taken by moose to be loaded. In addition, the moose image comes with a theme. Alexandre > > Regards! > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2014-02-24 17:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >> Hi! >> >> Now I am back from holidays, I am catching up with what happens during that February. >> My first surprise is GTPlayground, packaged with the Moose image. >> >> This is really cool stuff. I have never thought that the workspace could be such a primitive tool. GTPlayground greatly enhances my workflow when I am in a workspace. Managing variables is still missing apparently, but this is clearly a great match with my dream of a cool Pharo. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] GTPlayground

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Can this be tested on a vanilla Pharo 3.0 image? I still don't get the "moose image" vs "pharo image" separation. I thought Moose was installable, as any other package is :) Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2014-02-24 17:59 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Hi! > > Now I am back from holidays, I am catching up with what happens during that February. > My first surprise is GTPlayground, packaged with the Moose image. > > This is really cool stuff. I have never thought that the workspace could be such a primitive tool. GTPlayground greatly enhances my workflow when I am in a workspace. Managing variables is still missing apparently, but this is clearly a great match with my dream of a cool Pharo. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > >

Feb. 24, 2014

GTPlayground

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Now I am back from holidays, I am catching up with what happens during that February. My first surprise is GTPlayground, packaged with the Moose image. This is really cool stuff. I have never thought that the workspace could be such a primitive tool. GTPlayground greatly enhances my workflow when I am in a workspace. Managing variables is still missing apparently, but this is clearly a great match with my dream of a cool Pharo. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] New methods for the String class

by Alexandre Bergel

Would be great to have: âConfigurationOfRoassalâ chopCamel => #(âConfigurationâ âOfâ âRoassalâ). Alexandre On Feb 24, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Daniela Meneses <daniela11290(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi to all, > > As you may know I'm working on in some improvements for the String class. Until now I implemented some missing tests. Right now I'm looking forward to add new methods that could be useful based on Ruby API (http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.0/String.html) These are a few of the methods that I'm planning to implement: > > â¢ chomp(separator=$/) -> new_str > â¢ chop() -> new_str > â¢ ljust(integer, padstr='') ->new_str > â¢ next -> new_str > â¢ partition(sep) -> [head, sep, tail] > > Could you help to find out if these methods are already available for the String class? > > If you have any idea of new methods for the string class, will be really welcome. > > -- > Cheers, > Daniela Meneses -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Feb. 24, 2014