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Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by Sebastian Sastre

Now weâre talking! happy to see that :D On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Guys, > > If you want to discuss these aspects, please make sure you use the very latest image. Right now, exploring an OrderedCollection looks like this: > > <Screen Shot 2014-03-19 at 18.22.53.png> > > Various aspects were simplified recently. And pretty soon, it will also open on the first level. > > Sven > > On 19 Mar 2014, at 18:00, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > >> yeahâ¦ but watch this: >> >> #(a b c) asOrderedCollection >> >> <Screen Shot 2014-03-19 at 1.54.23 PM.png> >> >> and thenâ¦ >> >> arrow key down, then arrow key right and you get >> >> <Screen Shot 2014-03-19 at 1.54.38 PM.png> >> >> we can do better than that >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:42 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> >>> Ah, looks like I was looking at something returning the class and not a proper object, so, of course, there are lots of things. >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >>> Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? >>> >>> Or put the instance vars first. >>> >>> I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. >>> Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >> >

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Guys, If you want to discuss these aspects, please make sure you use the very latest image. Right now, exploring an OrderedCollection looks like this: Various aspects were simplified recently. And pretty soon, it will also open on the first level. Sven On 19 Mar 2014, at 18:00, Sebastian Sastre <sebastian(a)flowingconcept.com> wrote: > yeahâ¦ but watch this: > > #(a b c) asOrderedCollection > > <Screen Shot 2014-03-19 at 1.54.23 PM.png> > > and thenâ¦ > > arrow key down, then arrow key right and you get > > <Screen Shot 2014-03-19 at 1.54.38 PM.png> > > we can do better than that > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:42 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > >> Ah, looks like I was looking at something returning the class and not a proper object, so, of course, there are lots of things. >> >> Phil >> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: >> Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? >> >> Or put the instance vars first. >> >> I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. >> Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) >> >> Phil >> >> >> >

March 19, 2014

R: [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Lorenzo Schiavina

Great job! Lorenzo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] Per conto di Torsten Bergmann Inviato: mercoledÃ¬ 19 marzo 2014 13:53 A: Pharo Development List; pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org; seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Cc: "StÃ©phane Ducasse"; mike(a)pharocloud.com Oggetto: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud) There are some free Smalltalk books collected by Stef in the past. http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html Yet this page is often unknown to people. I therefore converted them to a more Seaside like demo using the Bootstrap project at: http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks as part of the Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap demos at http://pharo.pharocloud.com Code for this is on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/PharoCloud. I would suggest that we create a shortlink "books.pharo.org" for http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks to it - any takers? This way we can tell people: "Ahh you want to get Pharo, just use get.pharo.org" "Ahh you want to download Pharo, just use files.pharo.org" "Ahh you want to enhance Pharo, just use bugs.pharo.org" "Ahh you want to control Pharo, just use ci.pharo.org" and now "Ahh you want to learn Pharo, just use books.pharo.org" to be continued ... Kudos to Stef for the collection and to Mike for being able to host a demo on pharocloud. Have fun T.

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by Sebastian Sastre

yeahâ¦ but watch this: #(a b c) asOrderedCollection and thenâ¦ arrow key down, then arrow key right and you get we can do better than that On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:42 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Ah, looks like I was looking at something returning the class and not a proper object, so, of course, there are lots of things. > > Phil > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? > > Or put the instance vars first. > > I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. > Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) > > Phil > > >

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by phil＠highoctane.be

But there is something weird in there still. the card1,2,3,4 things are not on the class side in any way and still do show there. Weird. Maybe these were the temporaries. In any case, it is weird. Phil On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:42 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > Ah, looks like I was looking at something returning the class and not a > proper object, so, of course, there are lots of things. > > Phil > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > >> Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display >> instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of >> no interest when developing business style applications? >> >> Or put the instance vars first. >> >> I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I >> guess. >> Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a >> SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) >> >> Phil >> >> >> >

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ah, looks like I was looking at something returning the class and not a proper object, so, of course, there are lots of things. Phil On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display > instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of > no interest when developing business style applications? > > Or put the instance vars first. > > I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I > guess. > Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a > SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) > > Phil > > >

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by Sebastian Sastre

+1 Fancy that adds unpracticality is a no no no if you care about productivity And sorry but in this case, having the class there isnât even fancy (is consistent but in a nonsensical way) We already gave this feedback On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:20 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? > > Or put the instance vars first. > > I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. > Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) > > Phil > > > <EYE19-03-14 17-17-58.png>

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Tiling Window Manager in 3.0: working but still issues with WorldMorph

by phil＠highoctane.be

Would you mind putting the configuration in the 3.0 Metarepo? Phil On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Laurent Laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Phil, > > with latest ConfigurationOfTilingWindow manager World management (almost) > works. Still a little display issue when creating a new world (need to > change back and forth, seems to be some World repaint issue). > > I've also merged some experiments with GrowlMorph. > > Laurent > > > Le mardi 11 mars 2014, 13:27:57 Laurent Laffont a Ã©crit : > > Thanks a lot Phil. I will try to have a look. > > > > Laurent > > > > > > Le samedi 8 mars 2014, 11:57:30 phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > > > TWM works in 3.0 after some work on icons and updating menus. > > > > > > Gofer new > > > smalltalkhubUser: 'LaurentLaffont' project: 'TilingWindowManager'; > > > configuration; > > > load. > > > > > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager) project version: > '3.0') > > > load > > > > > > You can also use > > > > > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager) project version: > > > #development) load > > > > > > but this will for sure change over time. > > > > > > There is the World management icon which is still there and it looks > like > > > it can create worlds but switching between them just breaks havoc. > > > > > > Maybe should we just remove that feature from TWM as 3.0 doesn't seem > to be > > > multiworld friendly. > > > > > > Nothing done on tests nor themeing (which appears to be not that > working > > > well in 3.0 either due to theming changes); > > > > > > At least the thing is back :-) [I missed it...] > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > >

March 19, 2014

EyeTreeInspector -> Simple Mode?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Is there a way to get the EyeTreeInspector in Pharo3 to only display instance variables and globals and not the whole set of things that are of no interest when developing business style applications? Or put the instance vars first. I'll dig in there for my own use but for newcomers, that's a real PITA I guess. Maybe a filter icon or something would come helpful (or a SimpleEyeTreeInspector option in the drop down) Phil

March 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Serge Stinckwich

Great stuff !! Maybe you could use a more packed presentation like this one : http://pythonbooks.revolunet.com/ On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > There are some free Smalltalk books collected by Stef in the past. > > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html > > Yet this page is often unknown to people. > > > I therefore converted them to a more Seaside like demo using the Bootstrap project at: > > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks > > as part of the Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap demos at http://pharo.pharocloud.com > Code for this is on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/PharoCloud. > > > I would suggest that we create a shortlink "books.pharo.org" for > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks to it - any takers? This way we can > tell people: > > "Ahh you want to get Pharo, just use get.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to download Pharo, just use files.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to enhance Pharo, just use bugs.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to control Pharo, just use ci.pharo.org" > > and now > > "Ahh you want to learn Pharo, just use books.pharo.org" > > to be continued ... > > Kudos to Stef for the collection and to Mike for being able to host > a demo on pharocloud. > > Have fun > T. > -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

March 19, 2014