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Re: [Pharo-dev] Delete a package in SmalltalkHub

by jannik laval

Hi guys, I confirm: at home the deletion works like a charm. At work, I have proxies and the deletion does not work. What I don't understand is why only the deletion does not work ? Cheers, Jannik 2014-06-06 21:47 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > Hum, > > I just retry from home and it works !!! > So, I don't understand... an error related to proxies ? I don't understand. > > Jannik > > > 2014-06-06 21:43 GMT+02:00 jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com>: > > Yes, we check, but I suspect that it does not work because it is related >> to a team. >> I already removed packages / mcz on my own repository and it worked (3 >> weeks ago). >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> >> >> 2014-06-06 18:13 GMT+02:00 stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr>: >> >> Yes but did you check because it looks like it removes it for real. >>> >>> >>> On 6/6/14 10:49, jannik laval wrote: >>> >>>> Hi pharoers, >>>> >>>> In SmalltalkHub, we would like to delete a package in a team project. >>>> When clicking on delete button, we get a message: "The request did not >>>> succeed". >>>> >>>> Any idea ? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >>>> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >>>> Enseignant-chercheur >>>> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >>>> http://www.phratch.com >>>> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://car.mines-douai.fr/

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bench comparing Pahro 1.4 and 3.0.

by Nicolai Hess

2014-06-10 8:03 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 10 Jun 2014, at 02:59, Freemail <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > On Tue Jun 10 06:58:58 2014 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 10.06.2014, at 00:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > The script is slower on Pharo3. But I think, this has nothing to do > > > with the pharo3 image, as the same drgeo image is slower on > > > a pharo3 vm than on the pharo 1.4 vm. > > > > When you say âpharo 1.4 vmâ, do you mean CogVM? Or SqueakVM? > > > > And just to be sure (Iâm sure youâve thought of that): did you âwarm upâ > > the vm? JIT apparently needs that. > > > > Max > > > > > > > cog. No, no warm up. But I ran the script a dozen > times. But the maesured times are the same. > > wellâ¦ there is no such thing as âpharo 1.4 vmâ or âpharo 3.0 vmâ, there > are different versions, depending on different builds. > We know this is confuse and we are slowly moving in the direction of âone > vm per image versionâ, but for now, only way to know is to print > > Smalltalk vm version (in 3.0, I do not remember exactly how it was in 1.4â¦ > probably Smalltalk vmVersion) > alsoâ¦ is same image in each run? > and finally: even if different times is because of different vms, that > does not necessarily means a problem in vm (things can change and > optimisations in one place could cause marginally slower times in others), > so in that case we will need more digging :) > > Esteban > > Sorry, yes of course, not a pharo 1.4 vm. The VM info fro mSystemReporter: Virtual Machine --------------- drgeo.exe CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.160 uuid: bec8cdf0-4e06-4975-8c02-e882fadf4df3 Jun 1 2012, StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.160 uuid: bec8cdf0-4e06-4975-8c02-e882fadf4df3 Jun 1 2012, https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 744bfe905c78a1a5d408680a8780367ea77e0549 Date: Fri Jun 1 15:17:41 2012 +0200 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Win32 built on Jun 1 2012 15:45:26 Compiler: 4.5.2 CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.160 uuid: bec8cdf0-4e06-4975-8c02-e882fadf4df3 Jun 1 2012 StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.160 uuid: bec8cdf0-4e06-4975-8c02-e882fadf4df3 Jun 1 2012 Yes, the same ( a copy of) drgeo image in both runs. I don't fully trust the MessageTally timings, or at leas I find it hard to tell where exactly the code runs slow (if at all, as the differences are small). And I don't know if this difference in timing is what Hilaire observed, as he wrote : Pharo3 gets slower and slower for every run. I could not reproduce this one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 23:10 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > > I do not understand, what is/could be a vm issue? > > > > > > Esteban > > > > > > On 09 Jun 2014, at 18:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > > > Is this a VM issue? > > > > I took the same image (drgeo from http://www.drgeo.eu/ download > page) > > > > and run it with pharo4 vm and pharo 1.4 (from http://www.drgeo.eu/) > > > > > > > > 520 msec vs 371 msec: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Image > > > > ----- > > > > P:\Pharo4.0\drgeo.image > > > > Pharo1.4 > > > > Latest update: #14459 > > > > Unnamed > > > > > > > > Virtual Machine > > > > --------------- > > > > P:\Pharo4.0\Pharo.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > - 512 tallies, 520 msec. > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > **Leaves** > > > > 13.1% {68ms} Array class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: > > > > 9.4% {49ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= > > > > 8.0% {42ms} DrGPointFreeItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > > > > 6.6% {35ms} > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: 6.6% > > > > {35ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: 6.3% {33ms} > > > > WeakActionSequence(SequenceableCollection)>>first 5.7% {29ms} > > > > OrderedCollection>>at: 4.7% {24ms} OrderedCollection>>size > > > > 2.7% {14ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > > > > 2.7% {14ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>= > > > > 1.8% {9ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > > 1.8% {9ms} > > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Image > > > > ----- > > > > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\Contents\Resources\drgeo.image > > > > Pharo1.4 > > > > Latest update: #14459 > > > > Unnamed > > > > > > > > Virtual Machine > > > > --------------- > > > > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\drgeo.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > - 366 tallies, 371 msec. > > > > > > > > > > > > **Leaves** > > > > 14.5% {54ms} > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: 11.5% > > > > {43ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= 10.7% {40ms} OrderedCollection > > > > class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: 6.8% {25ms} > > > > DrGPointIntersectionItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: 5.7% {21ms} > > > > OrderedCollection>>at: 5.5% {20ms} > > > > Array(SequenceableCollection)>>first 5.2% {19ms} > > > > OrderedCollection>>size 4.6% {17ms} > DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > > > > 4.4% {16ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>= > > > > 3.3% {12ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > > > > 2.5% {9ms} > > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > > 2.2% {8ms} SmallInteger>>bitShift: 1.6% {6ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 12:24 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes > > > > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com>: Hi Nicolai, > > > > > > > > No, check on Smalltalk Hub. You will find instruction to install it > > > > as well. > > > > > > > > The ConfigurationOfDrGeo will not fetch the latest code, but once > > > > installed you can update the packages -Core and -Polymorph throught > > > > Monticello. > > > > > > > > Hilaire > > > > > > > > > > > > Script to try for rendering slowness (replace "figure do:" with > > > > "MessageTally spyOn:" to measure) > > > > > > > > |canvas s stats points| > > > > > > > > points :=Array new: 12. > > > > stats := Array new: 12 withAll: 0. > > > > > > > > canvas := DrGeoCanvas new. > > > > canvas scale: 20; fullscreen ; > > > > centerTo: 6@10. > > > > 2 to: 12 do: [:i | > > > > points at: i put: (canvas point: i(a)0.1) > > > > (points at: i) square; color: Color blue. > > > > s := canvas segment: i@0 to: (points at: i). > > > > s color: Color red]. > > > > > > > > figure do: [ > > > > 1 to: 10000 do: [:i| > > > > s := 6 atRandom + 6 atRandom. > > > > stats at: s put: ((stats at: s)+1). > > > > (points at: s) > > > > name: (stats at: s) asString; > > > > moveTo: s @ ((stats at: s) / 100). > > > > canvas update]]. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or another script to stress other aspect: > > > > > > > > | figure triangle | > > > > figure := DrGeoCanvas new fullscreen. > > > > triangle := [ ]. > > > > > > > > triangle := [:p1 :p2 :p3 :n | |s1 s2 s3 perp cercle p4 | > > > > s1 := figure segment: p1 to: p2. > > > > s2 := (figure segment: p2 to: p3) color: Color red; large. > > > > s3 := figure segment: p3 to: p1. > > > > perp := figure perpendicular: s3 at: p3. > > > > cercle := figure circleCenter: p3 to: p2. > > > > p4 := figure altIntersectionOf: cercle and: perp. > > > > perp hide. cercle hide. p4 hide. > > > > n > 0 ifTrue: [triangle value: p1 value: p3 value: p4 value: n -1]]. > > > > > > > > MessageTally spyOn: [triangle value: 0@0 value: -1@0 value: > -1@1 > > > > value: 50] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 08/06/2014 23:07, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > > > > > > > > I would like to take a look at this, can > > > > > you provide me your current DrGeo version you are using > > > > > for this. (I guess it is not http://www.squeaksource.com/DrGeoII) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > > > > iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo compilation limits

by ClÃ©ment Bera

2014-06-10 2:23 GMT+02:00 GOUBIER Thierry <thierry.goubier(a)cea.fr>: > Hi all, > > anybody would have a way to determine the maximum length / maximum > complexity of a method in a Pharo out of a parse tree (or whether if the > parse tree is over the limit)? > > There are many different issues: maximum number of literals, maximum jump size, maximum number of temporaries. Can you precise what problem do you have ? What errors are raised ? > The code SmaCC generates easily hit compiler limits (methods too long or > too complex), and I have difficulties changing the code generation approach. > For Pharo 4, we are implementing a new compiler back end that will remove some of those limits. I have a problem with code generation too and we are solving it. ClÃ©ment > > Thanks, > > Thierry > > >

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bench comparing Pahro 1.4 and 3.0.

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 10 Jun 2014, at 02:59, Freemail <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > On Tue Jun 10 06:58:58 2014 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 10.06.2014, at 00:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > The script is slower on Pharo3. But I think, this has nothing to do > > > with the pharo3 image, as the same drgeo image is slower on > > > a pharo3 vm than on the pharo 1.4 vm. > > > > When you say âpharo 1.4 vmâ, do you mean CogVM? Or SqueakVM? > > > > And just to be sure (Iâm sure youâve thought of that): did you âwarm upâ > > the vm? JIT apparently needs that. > > > > Max > > > > > > > cog. No, no warm up. But I ran the script a dozen > times. But the maesured times are the same. > wellâ¦ there is no such thing as âpharo 1.4 vmâ or âpharo 3.0 vmâ, there are different versions, depending on different builds. We know this is confuse and we are slowly moving in the direction of âone vm per image versionâ, but for now, only way to know is to print Smalltalk vm version (in 3.0, I do not remember exactly how it was in 1.4â¦ probably Smalltalk vmVersion) alsoâ¦ is same image in each run? and finally: even if different times is because of different vms, that does not necessarily means a problem in vm (things can change and optimisations in one place could cause marginally slower times in others), so in that case we will need more digging :) Esteban > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 23:10 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > > I do not understand, what is/could be a vm issue? > > > > > > Esteban > > > > > > On 09 Jun 2014, at 18:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > > > Is this a VM issue? > > > > I took the same image (drgeo from http://www.drgeo.eu/ download page) > > > > and run it with pharo4 vm and pharo 1.4 (from http://www.drgeo.eu/) > > > > > > > > 520 msec vs 371 msec: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Image > > > > ----- > > > > P:\Pharo4.0\drgeo.image > > > > Pharo1.4 > > > > Latest update: #14459 > > > > Unnamed > > > > > > > > Virtual Machine > > > > --------------- > > > > P:\Pharo4.0\Pharo.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > - 512 tallies, 520 msec. > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > **Leaves** > > > > 13.1% {68ms} Array class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: > > > > 9.4% {49ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= > > > > 8.0% {42ms} DrGPointFreeItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > > > > 6.6% {35ms} > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: 6.6% > > > > {35ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: 6.3% {33ms} > > > > WeakActionSequence(SequenceableCollection)>>first 5.7% {29ms} > > > > OrderedCollection>>at: 4.7% {24ms} OrderedCollection>>size > > > > 2.7% {14ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > > > > 2.7% {14ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>= > > > > 1.8% {9ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > > 1.8% {9ms} > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Image > > > > ----- > > > > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\Contents\Resources\drgeo.image > > > > Pharo1.4 > > > > Latest update: #14459 > > > > Unnamed > > > > > > > > Virtual Machine > > > > --------------- > > > > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\drgeo.exe > > > > > > > > > > > > - 366 tallies, 371 msec. > > > > > > > > > > > > **Leaves** > > > > 14.5% {54ms} > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: 11.5% > > > > {43ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= 10.7% {40ms} OrderedCollection > > > > class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: 6.8% {25ms} > > > > DrGPointIntersectionItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: 5.7% {21ms} > > > > OrderedCollection>>at: 5.5% {20ms} > > > > Array(SequenceableCollection)>>first 5.2% {19ms} > > > > OrderedCollection>>size 4.6% {17ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > > > > 4.4% {16ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>= > > > > 3.3% {12ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > > > > 2.5% {9ms} > > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > > 2.2% {8ms} SmallInteger>>bitShift: 1.6% {6ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 12:24 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes > > > > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com>: Hi Nicolai, > > > > > > > > No, check on Smalltalk Hub. You will find instruction to install it > > > > as well. > > > > > > > > The ConfigurationOfDrGeo will not fetch the latest code, but once > > > > installed you can update the packages -Core and -Polymorph throught > > > > Monticello. > > > > > > > > Hilaire > > > > > > > > > > > > Script to try for rendering slowness (replace "figure do:" with > > > > "MessageTally spyOn:" to measure) > > > > > > > > |canvas s stats points| > > > > > > > > points :=Array new: 12. > > > > stats := Array new: 12 withAll: 0. > > > > > > > > canvas := DrGeoCanvas new. > > > > canvas scale: 20; fullscreen ; > > > > centerTo: 6@10. > > > > 2 to: 12 do: [:i | > > > > points at: i put: (canvas point: i(a)0.1) > > > > (points at: i) square; color: Color blue. > > > > s := canvas segment: i@0 to: (points at: i). > > > > s color: Color red]. > > > > > > > > figure do: [ > > > > 1 to: 10000 do: [:i| > > > > s := 6 atRandom + 6 atRandom. > > > > stats at: s put: ((stats at: s)+1). > > > > (points at: s) > > > > name: (stats at: s) asString; > > > > moveTo: s @ ((stats at: s) / 100). > > > > canvas update]]. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or another script to stress other aspect: > > > > > > > > | figure triangle | > > > > figure := DrGeoCanvas new fullscreen. > > > > triangle := [ ]. > > > > > > > > triangle := [:p1 :p2 :p3 :n | |s1 s2 s3 perp cercle p4 | > > > > s1 := figure segment: p1 to: p2. > > > > s2 := (figure segment: p2 to: p3) color: Color red; large. > > > > s3 := figure segment: p3 to: p1. > > > > perp := figure perpendicular: s3 at: p3. > > > > cercle := figure circleCenter: p3 to: p2. > > > > p4 := figure altIntersectionOf: cercle and: perp. > > > > perp hide. cercle hide. p4 hide. > > > > n > 0 ifTrue: [triangle value: p1 value: p3 value: p4 value: n -1]]. > > > > > > > > MessageTally spyOn: [triangle value: 0@0 value: -1@0 value: -1@1 > > > > value: 50] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 08/06/2014 23:07, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > > > > > > > > I would like to take a look at this, can > > > > > you provide me your current DrGeo version you are using > > > > > for this. (I guess it is not http://www.squeaksource.com/DrGeoII) > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > > > > iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bench comparing Pahro 1.4 and 3.0.

by Freemail

On Tue Jun 10 06:58:58 2014 Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 10.06.2014, at 00:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > The script is slower on Pharo3. But I think, this has nothing to do > > with the pharo3 image, as the same drgeo image is slower on > > a pharo3 vm than on the pharo 1.4 vm. > > When you say âpharo 1.4 vmâ, do you mean CogVM? Or SqueakVM? > > And just to be sure (Iâm sure youâve thought of that): did you âwarm upâ > the vm? JIT apparently needs that. > > Max > > cog. No, no warm up. But I ran the script a dozen times. But the maesured times are the same. > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 23:10 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > I do not understand, what is/could be a vm issue? > > > > Esteban > > > > On 09 Jun 2014, at 18:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > > Is this a VM issue? > > > I took the same image (drgeo from http://www.drgeo.eu/ download page) > > > and run it with pharo4 vm and pharo 1.4 (from http://www.drgeo.eu/) > > > > > > 520 msec vs 371 msec: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Image > > > ----- > > > P:\Pharo4.0\drgeo.image > > > Pharo1.4 > > > Latest update: #14459 > > > Unnamed > > > > > > Virtual Machine > > > --------------- > > > P:\Pharo4.0\Pharo.exe > > > > > > > > > - 512 tallies, 520 msec. > > > > > > .... > > > > > > **Leaves** > > > 13.1% {68ms} Array class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: > > > 9.4% {49ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= > > > 8.0% {42ms} DrGPointFreeItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > > > 6.6% {35ms} > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: 6.6% > > > {35ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: 6.3% {33ms} > > > WeakActionSequence(SequenceableCollection)>>first 5.7% {29ms} > > > OrderedCollection>>at: 4.7% {24ms} OrderedCollection>>size > > > 2.7% {14ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > > > 2.7% {14ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>= > > > 1.8% {9ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > 1.8% {9ms} > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Image > > > ----- > > > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\Contents\Resources\drgeo.image > > > Pharo1.4 > > > Latest update: #14459 > > > Unnamed > > > > > > Virtual Machine > > > --------------- > > > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\drgeo.exe > > > > > > > > > - 366 tallies, 371 msec. > > > > > > > > > **Leaves** > > > 14.5% {54ms} > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: 11.5% > > > {43ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= 10.7% {40ms} OrderedCollection > > > class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: 6.8% {25ms} > > > DrGPointIntersectionItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: 5.7% {21ms} > > > OrderedCollection>>at: 5.5% {20ms} > > > Array(SequenceableCollection)>>first 5.2% {19ms} > > > OrderedCollection>>size 4.6% {17ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > > > 4.4% {16ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>= > > > 3.3% {12ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > > > 2.5% {9ms} > > > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > 2.2% {8ms} SmallInteger>>bitShift: 1.6% {6ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 12:24 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes > > > <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com>: Hi Nicolai, > > > > > > No, check on Smalltalk Hub. You will find instruction to install it > > > as well. > > > > > > The ConfigurationOfDrGeo will not fetch the latest code, but once > > > installed you can update the packages -Core and -Polymorph throught > > > Monticello. > > > > > > Hilaire > > > > > > > > > Script to try for rendering slowness (replace "figure do:" with > > > "MessageTally spyOn:" to measure) > > > > > > |canvas s stats points| > > > > > > points :=Array new: 12. > > > stats := Array new: 12 withAll: 0. > > > > > > canvas := DrGeoCanvas new. > > > canvasÂ scale: 20; fullscreen ; > > > centerTo: 6@10. > > > 2 to: 12 do: [:i | > > > points at: i put: (canvas point: i(a)0.1) > > > (points at: i) square; color: Color blue. > > > s := canvas segment: i@0 to: (points at: i). > > > s color: Color red]. > > > > > > figure do: [ > > > 1 to: 10000 do: [:i| > > > s := 6 atRandom + 6 atRandom. > > > stats at: s put: ((stats at: s)+1). > > > (points at: s) > > > name: (stats at: s) asString; > > > moveTo: s @ ((stats at: s) / 100). > > > canvas update]]. > > > > > > > > > Or another script to stress other aspect: > > > > > > | figure triangle | > > > figure := DrGeoCanvas new fullscreen. > > > triangle := [ ]. > > > > > > triangle := [:p1 :p2 :p3Â :n | |s1 s2 s3 perp cercle p4 | > > > s1 := figure segment: p1 to: p2. > > > s2 := (figure segment: p2 to: p3) color: Color red; large. > > > s3 := figure segment: p3 to: p1. > > > perp := figure perpendicular: s3 at: p3. > > > cercle := figure circleCenter: p3 to: p2. > > > p4 := figure altIntersectionOf: cercle and:Â perp. > > > perp hide. cercle hide. p4 hide. > > > n > 0 ifTrue: [triangle value: p1 value: p3 value: p4 value: n -1]]. > > > > > > MessageTally spyOn: [triangle value: 0@0 value: -1@0Â Â Â Â value: -1@1 > > > value: 50] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 08/06/2014 23:07, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : > > > > > > > > I would like to take a look at this, can > > > > you provide me your current DrGeo version you are using > > > > for this. (I guess it is not http://www.squeaksource.com/DrGeoII) > > > > > > -- > > > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > > > iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Access to XMLPullParser

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Done 2014-06-08 18:00 GMT-03:00 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com>: > Can someone add me to XMLPullParser: > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~hernan/XMLPullParser > There is a red test and I want to correct it. > > Regards, > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bench comparing Pahro 1.4 and 3.0.

by Max Leske

On 10.06.2014, at 00:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > The script is slower on Pharo3. But I think, this has nothing to do > with the pharo3 image, as the same drgeo image is slower on > a pharo3 vm than on the pharo 1.4 vm. When you say âpharo 1.4 vmâ, do you mean CogVM? Or SqueakVM? And just to be sure (Iâm sure youâve thought of that): did you âwarm upâ the vm? JIT apparently needs that. Max > > > > > 2014-06-09 23:10 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I do not understand, what is/could be a vm issue? > > Esteban > > On 09 Jun 2014, at 18:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > >> Is this a VM issue? >> I took the same image (drgeo from http://www.drgeo.eu/ download page) >> and run it with pharo4 vm and pharo 1.4 (from http://www.drgeo.eu/) >> >> 520 msec vs 371 msec: >> >> >> >> >> Image >> ----- >> P:\Pharo4.0\drgeo.image >> Pharo1.4 >> Latest update: #14459 >> Unnamed >> >> Virtual Machine >> --------------- >> P:\Pharo4.0\Pharo.exe >> >> >> - 512 tallies, 520 msec. >> >> .... >> >> **Leaves** >> 13.1% {68ms} Array class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: >> 9.4% {49ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= >> 8.0% {42ms} DrGPointFreeItem(DrGMathItem)>>= >> 6.6% {35ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: >> 6.6% {35ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: >> 6.3% {33ms} WeakActionSequence(SequenceableCollection)>>first >> 5.7% {29ms} OrderedCollection>>at: >> 4.7% {24ms} OrderedCollection>>size >> 2.7% {14ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: >> 2.7% {14ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>= >> 1.8% {9ms} OrderedCollection>>do: >> 1.8% {9ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Image >> ----- >> c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\Contents\Resources\drgeo.image >> Pharo1.4 >> Latest update: #14459 >> Unnamed >> >> Virtual Machine >> --------------- >> c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\drgeo.exe >> >> >> - 366 tallies, 371 msec. >> >> >> **Leaves** >> 14.5% {54ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: >> 11.5% {43ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= >> 10.7% {40ms} OrderedCollection class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: >> 6.8% {25ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: >> 5.7% {21ms} OrderedCollection>>at: >> 5.5% {20ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>first >> 5.2% {19ms} OrderedCollection>>size >> 4.6% {17ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>= >> 4.4% {16ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>= >> 3.3% {12ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: >> 2.5% {9ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: >> 2.2% {8ms} SmallInteger>>bitShift: >> 1.6% {6ms} OrderedCollection>>do: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2014-06-09 12:24 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi Nicolai, >> >> No, check on Smalltalk Hub. You will find instruction to install it as well. >> >> The ConfigurationOfDrGeo will not fetch the latest code, but once >> installed you can update the packages -Core and -Polymorph throught >> Monticello. >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> Script to try for rendering slowness (replace "figure do:" with >> "MessageTally spyOn:" to measure) >> >> |canvas s stats points| >> >> points :=Array new: 12. >> stats := Array new: 12 withAll: 0. >> >> canvas := DrGeoCanvas new. >> canvas scale: 20; fullscreen ; >> centerTo: 6@10. >> 2 to: 12 do: [:i | >> points at: i put: (canvas point: i(a)0.1) >> (points at: i) square; color: Color blue. >> s := canvas segment: i@0 to: (points at: i). >> s color: Color red]. >> >> figure do: [ >> 1 to: 10000 do: [:i| >> s := 6 atRandom + 6 atRandom. >> stats at: s put: ((stats at: s)+1). >> (points at: s) >> name: (stats at: s) asString; >> moveTo: s @ ((stats at: s) / 100). >> canvas update]]. >> >> >> Or another script to stress other aspect: >> >> | figure triangle | >> figure := DrGeoCanvas new fullscreen. >> triangle := [ ]. >> >> triangle := [:p1 :p2 :p3 :n | |s1 s2 s3 perp cercle p4 | >> s1 := figure segment: p1 to: p2. >> s2 := (figure segment: p2 to: p3) color: Color red; large. >> s3 := figure segment: p3 to: p1. >> perp := figure perpendicular: s3 at: p3. >> cercle := figure circleCenter: p3 to: p2. >> p4 := figure altIntersectionOf: cercle and: perp. >> perp hide. cercle hide. p4 hide. >> n > 0 ifTrue: [triangle value: p1 value: p3 value: p4 value: n -1]]. >> >> MessageTally spyOn: [triangle value: 0@0 value: -1@0 value: -1@1 >> value: 50] >> >> >> >> >> Le 08/06/2014 23:07, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : >> > >> > I would like to take a look at this, can >> > you provide me your current DrGeo version you are using >> > for this. (I guess it is not http://www.squeaksource.com/DrGeoII) >> >> -- >> Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu >> iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa >> >> >> > >

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brainstorming Pharo4

by Sean P. DeNigris

EstebanLM wrote > We would like to exchange ideas with you. > So, what do you think? For me, the two things that I wish for daily: - clean Morphic - new text editor ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Brainstorming-Pharo4-tp4761647p4762391.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 10, 2014

Pharo compilation limits

by GOUBIER Thierry

Hi all, anybody would have a way to determine the maximum length / maximum complexity of a method in a Pharo out of a parse tree (or whether if the parse tree is over the limit)? The code SmaCC generates easily hit compiler limits (methods too long or too complex), and I have difficulties changing the code generation approach. Thanks, Thierry

June 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Bench comparing Pahro 1.4 and 3.0.

by Nicolai Hess

The script is slower on Pharo3. But I think, this has nothing to do with the pharo3 image, as the same drgeo image is slower on a pharo3 vm than on the pharo 1.4 vm. 2014-06-09 23:10 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > I do not understand, what is/could be a vm issue? > > Esteban > > On 09 Jun 2014, at 18:08, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > Is this a VM issue? > I took the same image (drgeo from http://www.drgeo.eu/ download page) > and run it with pharo4 vm and pharo 1.4 (from http://www.drgeo.eu/) > > 520 msec vs 371 msec: > > > > > Image > ----- > P:\Pharo4.0\drgeo.image > Pharo1.4 > Latest update: #14459 > Unnamed > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > P:\Pharo4.0\Pharo.exe > > > - 512 tallies, 520 msec. > > .... > > **Leaves** > 13.1% {68ms} Array class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: > 9.4% {49ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= > 8.0% {42ms} DrGPointFreeItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > 6.6% {35ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: > 6.6% {35ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: > 6.3% {33ms} WeakActionSequence(SequenceableCollection)>>first > 5.7% {29ms} OrderedCollection>>at: > 4.7% {24ms} OrderedCollection>>size > 2.7% {14ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > 2.7% {14ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>= > 1.8% {9ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > 1.8% {9ms} > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > > > > > > > Image > ----- > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\Contents\Resources\drgeo.image > Pharo1.4 > Latest update: #14459 > Unnamed > > Virtual Machine > --------------- > c:\Users\nicolai\Downloads\DrGeo.app\drgeo.exe > > > - 366 tallies, 371 msec. > > > **Leaves** > 14.5% {54ms} OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>hasEqualElements: > 11.5% {43ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem>>= > 10.7% {40ms} OrderedCollection class(Behavior)>>inheritsFrom: > 6.8% {25ms} DrGPointIntersectionItem(DrGMathItem)>>parentsEqual: > 5.7% {21ms} OrderedCollection>>at: > 5.5% {20ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>first > 5.2% {19ms} OrderedCollection>>size > 4.6% {17ms} DrGCircle2ptsItem(DrGMathItem)>>= > 4.4% {16ms} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>= > 3.3% {12ms} Array(Object)>>isKindOf: > 2.5% {9ms} > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>indexOf:startingAt:ifAbsent: > 2.2% {8ms} SmallInteger>>bitShift: > 1.6% {6ms} OrderedCollection>>do: > > > > > > > > > > > 2014-06-09 12:24 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> > : > >> Hi Nicolai, >> >> No, check on Smalltalk Hub. You will find instruction to install it as >> well. >> >> The ConfigurationOfDrGeo will not fetch the latest code, but once >> installed you can update the packages -Core and -Polymorph throught >> Monticello. >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> Script to try for rendering slowness (replace "figure do:" with >> "MessageTally spyOn:" to measure) >> >> |canvas s stats points| >> >> points :=Array new: 12. >> stats := Array new: 12 withAll: 0. >> >> canvas := DrGeoCanvas new. >> canvas scale: 20; fullscreen ; >> centerTo: 6@10. >> 2 to: 12 do: [:i | >> points at: i put: (canvas point: i(a)0.1) >> (points at: i) square; color: Color blue. >> s := canvas segment: i@0 to: (points at: i). >> s color: Color red]. >> >> figure do: [ >> 1 to: 10000 do: [:i| >> s := 6 atRandom + 6 atRandom. >> stats at: s put: ((stats at: s)+1). >> (points at: s) >> name: (stats at: s) asString; >> moveTo: s @ ((stats at: s) / 100). >> canvas update]]. >> >> >> Or another script to stress other aspect: >> >> | figure triangle | >> figure := DrGeoCanvas new fullscreen. >> triangle := [ ]. >> >> triangle := [:p1 :p2 :p3 :n | |s1 s2 s3 perp cercle p4 | >> s1 := figure segment: p1 to: p2. >> s2 := (figure segment: p2 to: p3) color: Color red; large. >> s3 := figure segment: p3 to: p1. >> perp := figure perpendicular: s3 at: p3. >> cercle := figure circleCenter: p3 to: p2. >> p4 := figure altIntersectionOf: cercle and: perp. >> perp hide. cercle hide. p4 hide. >> n > 0 ifTrue: [triangle value: p1 value: p3 value: p4 value: n -1]]. >> >> MessageTally spyOn: [triangle value: 0@0 value: -1@0 value: -1@1 >> value: 50] >> >> >> >> >> Le 08/06/2014 23:07, Nicolai Hess a Ã©crit : >> > >> > I would like to take a look at this, can >> > you provide me your current DrGeo version you are using >> > for this. (I guess it is not http://www.squeaksource.com/DrGeoII) >> >> -- >> Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu >> iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa >> >> >> > >

June 9, 2014