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Re: [Pharo-dev] ANN - Pre-compiled Pharo VM for Debian Stable

by Douglas McPherson

Ah, thanks. Just an unfortunate name collision which I didn't understand. Thanks again. On Sep 28, 2014, at 23:14 , Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras wrote: > see below > http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/ZeroConf.pdf > > it's a chapter from the book, that explains it. > > and here http://get.pharo.org/ you have some additionals scripts > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Douglas McPherson <djm1329(a)san.rr.com> wrote: > > On Sep 28, 2014, at 15:17 , Jan Vrany wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > Getting Pharo 2.0/3.0 up and running on Debian Wheezy (= Stable) or on > > other more conservative linux distribution wasn't exactly easy as the > > VM's provided by the Pharo team fail to run on those systems. > > > > Well, not any longer. You may find precompiled binaries at: > > > > https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/Projects/job/pharo-vm-stable-swing/ > > > > or use zeroconf script: > > > > curl http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > Sorry for the rude intrusion ... what is a zeroconf script? I see a lot of mention here on pharo-dev. > > Does it have anything to do with: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking > or > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/zeroconf/charter/ ? > > Thanks! > > > > > or > > > > wget -O- http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > > > The VM is compiled from pre-generated sources found at: > > > > http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed/pharo-vm-2014.09.20.t… > > > > Thanks to Clement, Damien & Markus for their help. > > > > Have fun. > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > > -- > Bernardo E.C. > > Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Penelope Re: Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

by Marcus Denker

On 29 Sep 2014, at 07:53, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Nobody knows? This thread is frightening... > > The bugs.pharo.org related issue related to the fact that it never ever updated the issues shown is open since 1 week after it was set up, or something like that. Marcus > Le 20 sept. 2014 12:29, "Ben Coman" <btc(a)openinworld.com> a Ã©crit : > > I have two tickets open on Penelope... > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11550 > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11551 > > I'd be happy to give them a go myself if I had access to the code and be able to test it. > cheers -ben > > > Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:02, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: >> >>> Yes but, >>> >>> 2014-09-17 11:25 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: >>> Hello, >>> >>> There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the last 7 daysâ¦). >>> >>> A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: >>> >>> -> not reproducible >>> -> *completely* unclear what action could lead to solve the issue >>> -> outdated (e.g. small improvements submitted ages ago, but even >>> the author does not care to submit a new version for Pharo4) >>> >>> I think we should be more radical in closing issues. If someone submits something >>> but can not even answer a simple question in 2 months â> this is the same as âI donât careâ. >>> >>> 2 months are to short. 4 or maybe 6. >> Yes, you are right 6 months is good. >> >> The idea is that the issue will be closed, but with a mail to the âownerâ of the issue so that >> he/she can decide to re-openâ¦ and âwill work on that laterâ would be a valid answer. >> >>> There are open issues without any action on our part - for months. And that does >>> not mean "we don't care". If someone reports an issues and don't >>> have the time to react on comments/questions for a couple of months, I understand that. >>> >>> >>> nicolai >>> >>> >>> So *PLEASE*: >>> >>> -> check all the issue that *you* submitted. Are they still relevant? Is there enough >>> information for anyone to do anything? >>> -> check all the issues you where involved with in discussions. It is much easier for >>> you than for me to understand what the conclusion of the discussion is. >>> -> help checking *old* entries. Is is still relevant? What is the next action? >>> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >> >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] ANN - Pre-compiled Pharo VM for Debian Stable

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

see below http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/ZeroConf.pdf it's a chapter from the book, that explains it. and here http://get.pharo.org/ you have some additionals scripts On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Douglas McPherson <djm1329(a)san.rr.com> wrote: > > On Sep 28, 2014, at 15:17 , Jan Vrany wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > Getting Pharo 2.0/3.0 up and running on Debian Wheezy (= Stable) or on > > other more conservative linux distribution wasn't exactly easy as the > > VM's provided by the Pharo team fail to run on those systems. > > > > Well, not any longer. You may find precompiled binaries at: > > > > > https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/Projects/job/pharo-vm-stable-swing/ > > > > or use zeroconf script: > > > > curl http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > Sorry for the rude intrusion ... what is a zeroconf script? I see a lot of > mention here on pharo-dev. > > Does it have anything to do with: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking > or > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/zeroconf/charter/ ? > > Thanks! > > > > > or > > > > wget -O- http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > > > The VM is compiled from pre-generated sources found at: > > > > > http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed/pharo-vm-2014.09.20.t… > > > > Thanks to Clement, Damien & Markus for their help. > > > > Have fun. > > > > Jan > > > > > > > -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] ANN - Pre-compiled Pharo VM for Debian Stable

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 29 Sep 2014, at 05:57, Douglas McPherson <djm1329(a)san.rr.com> wrote: > > On Sep 28, 2014, at 15:17 , Jan Vrany wrote: > >> Hi there, >> >> Getting Pharo 2.0/3.0 up and running on Debian Wheezy (= Stable) or on >> other more conservative linux distribution wasn't exactly easy as the >> VM's provided by the Pharo team fail to run on those systems. >> >> Well, not any longer. You may find precompiled binaries at: >> >> https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/Projects/job/pharo-vm-stable-swing/ >> >> or use zeroconf script: >> >> curl http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > Sorry for the rude intrusion ... what is a zeroconf script? I see a lot of mention here on pharo-dev. > > Does it have anything to do with: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking > or > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/zeroconf/charter/ ? nope :P http://get.pharo.org Esteban > > Thanks! > >> >> or >> >> wget -O- http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash >> >> The VM is compiled from pre-generated sources found at: >> >> http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed/pharo-vm-2014.09.20.t… >> >> Thanks to Clement, Damien & Markus for their help. >> >> Have fun. >> >> Jan >> >> > >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Penelope Re: Call for CleanUp of the issue tracker

by Damien Cassou

Nobody knows? This thread is frightening... Le 20 sept. 2014 12:29, "Ben Coman" <btc(a)openinworld.com> a Ã©crit : > > I have two tickets open on Penelope... > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11550 > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11551 > > I'd be happy to give them a go myself if I had access to the code and be > able to test it. > cheers -ben > > > Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On 17 Sep 2014, at 13:02, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > Yes but, > > 2014-09-17 11:25 GMT+02:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> Hello, >> >> There are right now 675 open issues. (we managed to close 63 just the >> last 7 days...). >> >> A lot of those issues are very old. A lot are in a bad shape: >> >> -> not reproducible >> -> *completely* unclear what action could lead to solve the issue >> -> outdated (e.g. small improvements submitted ages ago, but even >> the author does not care to submit a new version for Pharo4) >> >> I think we should be more radical in closing issues. If someone submits >> something >> but can not even answer a simple question in 2 months --> this is the same >> as "I don't care". >> > > 2 months are to short. 4 or maybe 6. > > Yes, you are right 6 months is good. > > The idea is that the issue will be closed, but with a mail to the > "owner" of the issue so that > he/she can decide to re-open... and "will work on that later" would be a > valid answer. > > There are open issues without any action on our part - for months. > And that does > not mean "we don't care". If someone reports an issues and don't > have the time to react on comments/questions for a couple of months, I > understand that. > > > nicolai > > >> >> So *PLEASE*: >> >> -> check all the issue that *you* submitted. Are they still relevant? >> Is there enough >> information for anyone to do anything? >> -> check all the issues you where involved with in discussions. It is >> much easier for >> you than for me to understand what the conclusion of the discussion is. >> -> help checking *old* entries. Is is still relevant? What is the next >> action? >> > > +1 > > > >> >> >> Marcus >> > > > >

Sept. 29, 2014

Request for adding Smalltalk syntax highlight in SE network

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

I have requested for some justice to stop the look down on Smalltalk syntax highlighting in StackOverflow: http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/272327/syntax-highlighting-for-smal… Maybe more votes (from you) would better support the request. Cheers, HernÃ¡n

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] ANN - Pre-compiled Pharo VM for Debian Stable

by Douglas McPherson

On Sep 28, 2014, at 15:17 , Jan Vrany wrote: > Hi there, > > Getting Pharo 2.0/3.0 up and running on Debian Wheezy (= Stable) or on > other more conservative linux distribution wasn't exactly easy as the > VM's provided by the Pharo team fail to run on those systems. > > Well, not any longer. You may find precompiled binaries at: > > https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/Projects/job/pharo-vm-stable-swing/ > > or use zeroconf script: > > curl http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash Sorry for the rude intrusion ... what is a zeroconf script? I see a lot of mention here on pharo-dev. Does it have anything to do with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-configuration_networking or http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/zeroconf/charter/ ? Thanks! > > or > > wget -O- http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > The VM is compiled from pre-generated sources found at: > > http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed/pharo-vm-2014.09.20.t… > > Thanks to Clement, Damien & Markus for their help. > > Have fun. > > Jan > >

Sept. 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] ANN - Pre-compiled Pharo VM for Debian Stable

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I really needed it. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > Hi there, > > Getting Pharo 2.0/3.0 up and running on Debian Wheezy (= Stable) or on > other more conservative linux distribution wasn't exactly easy as the > VM's provided by the Pharo team fail to run on those systems. > > Well, not any longer. You may find precompiled binaries at: > > https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/Projects/job/pharo-vm-stable-swing/ > > or use zeroconf script: > > curl http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > or > > wget -O- http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash > > The VM is compiled from pre-generated sources found at: > > > http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed/pharo-vm-2014.09.20.t… > > Thanks to Clement, Damien & Markus for their help. > > Have fun. > > Jan > > > -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

Sept. 29, 2014

ANN - Pre-compiled Pharo VM for Debian Stable

by Jan Vrany

Hi there, Getting Pharo 2.0/3.0 up and running on Debian Wheezy (= Stable) or on other more conservative linux distribution wasn't exactly easy as the VM's provided by the Pharo team fail to run on those systems. Well, not any longer. You may find precompiled binaries at: https://swing.fit.cvut.cz/jenkins/view/Projects/job/pharo-vm-stable-swing/ or use zeroconf script: curl http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash or wget -O- http://swing.fit.cvut.cz/download/pharo/vm-swing | bash The VM is compiled from pre-generated sources found at: http://files.pharo.org/vm/src/vm-unix-sources/blessed/pharo-vm-2014.09.20.t… Thanks to Clement, Damien & Markus for their help. Have fun. Jan

Sept. 28, 2014

Working configuration of OS and Graphiccard for Woden

by Nicolai Hess

Is Woden supposed to work on windows? I tried Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ronsaldo' project: 'Woden'; package: 'ConfigurationOfWoden'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfWoden) loadBleedingEdge on windows but it failed (some NB error). I just want to know if anyone tried woden on Windows already. I tried this on linux too, but it fails. (But I wasn't able to run Roassal3D or NBOpenGL on my linux box so I hadn't high expectations, but at least on my windows box I could get NBOpenGL working) Nicolai

Sept. 28, 2014