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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Re: Run Spur run!!

by Eliot Miranda

On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Levente Uzonyi <leves(a)elte.hu> wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > >> >> >> On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> Yes, I'm very excited. It's so great to have strong collaborators like >>>> ClÃ©ment, Ronie, Doug and Tim. But there's lots of room for more to join >>>> us. For a really cool project how about grabbing Bert Freudenberg's >>>> VMMakerJS Squeak-vm-on-JavaScript, extract the event handling and rendering >>>> part and connect it to the Cog VM via sockets to give us a really fast web >>>> plugin? >>>> >>> >>> I thought that the event handling was what JB is doing with the idle >>> process on android. >>> >> >> These are two different, but closely related things. The event-driven VM >> and idle process work gives us better event handling (no event queue, >> important for better integration with GUIs) and a cheaper VM at idle (the >> CM blocks awaiting an event instead of spinning calling a shirt delay). >> > > Just a friendly reminder before someone starts to reinvent the wheel: the > event-driven VM already exists. > > Proposal: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009- > November/003385.html > Announcement: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010- > January/003684.html > Repo: https://code.google.com/p/squeak-android-vm/ > StackVM variant with other improvments: https://code.google.com/p/ > squeakvm-tablet/ It still needs integrating. AFAIA JB's version for Android is the most up-to-date version. > > Levente > > >> To embed the system in a web browser one needs both to render to the >> browser window and to receive mouse and keyboard events from the window. >> >> So the "plugin" must be connected to the VM's event subsystem e.g. by a >> socket. Just as the VM's graphics subsystem must output to the browser >> window. There are lots of ways to slice this and it will likely be >> different for BitBlt and Athens. >> >> Eliot (phone) >> >> >>> Stef >>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> best, >>>> Eliot >>>> >>> >>> >>> > -- best, Eliot

Oct. 26, 2014

Way to embed efficiently data?

by Ronie Salgado

Hello, I want to know if there is an efficient way to embed data with version control on it(Monticello). By efficient, I mean without gzipping and Base64 encoding the data in the source code of a method. Ideally, I would like this embedded data in a separate file, to avoid memory consumption when I am not using this data. I am interesting on embedding text files(GLSL Shaders, OpenCL kernel source code) and binary data (images) Greetings, Ronie

Oct. 26, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Vm-dev] Re: Run Spur run!!

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014, Eliot Miranda wrote: > > > > On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >>> >>> Yes, I'm very excited. It's so great to have strong collaborators like ClÃ©ment, Ronie, Doug and Tim. But there's lots of room for more to join us. For a really cool project how about grabbing Bert Freudenberg's VMMakerJS Squeak-vm-on-JavaScript, extract the event handling and rendering part and connect it to the Cog VM via sockets to give us a really fast web plugin? >> >> I thought that the event handling was what JB is doing with the idle process on android. > > These are two different, but closely related things. The event-driven VM and idle process work gives us better event handling (no event queue, important for better integration with GUIs) and a cheaper VM at idle (the CM blocks awaiting an event instead of spinning calling a shirt delay). Just a friendly reminder before someone starts to reinvent the wheel: the event-driven VM already exists. Proposal: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-November/003385.html Announcement: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-January/003684.html Repo: https://code.google.com/p/squeak-android-vm/ StackVM variant with other improvments: https://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/ Levente > > To embed the system in a web browser one needs both to render to the browser window and to receive mouse and keyboard events from the window. > > So the "plugin" must be connected to the VM's event subsystem e.g. by a socket. Just as the VM's graphics subsystem must output to the browser window. There are lots of ways to slice this and it will likely be different for BitBlt and Athens. > > Eliot (phone) > >> >> Stef >>> >>> -- >>> best, >>> Eliot >> >> >

Oct. 26, 2014

[pharo-project/pharo-core] f4bef6: 40328

by GitHub

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[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/40328 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Oct. 26, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Modbus project

by Ben Coman

Jesus Mari Aguirre wrote: > I'm interested in this project http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects/modbus, > anyone knows if this project is alive, I am working in a fuzzy logic lib > and it could be useful in order to connect my lib to the "real world" > I proposed that one, but it didn't get the votes, so no work was done. Its still on my want-to-do list, but I have several other priorities to attend to first. -ben

Oct. 26, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Run Spur run!!

by Eliot Miranda

On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> Yes, I'm very excited. It's so great to have strong collaborators like ClÃ©ment, Ronie, Doug and Tim. But there's lots of room for more to join us. For a really cool project how about grabbing Bert Freudenberg's VMMakerJS Squeak-vm-on-JavaScript, extract the event handling and rendering part and connect it to the Cog VM via sockets to give us a really fast web plugin? > > I thought that the event handling was what JB is doing with the idle process on android. These are two different, but closely related things. The event-driven VM and idle process work gives us better event handling (no event queue, important for better integration with GUIs) and a cheaper VM at idle (the CM blocks awaiting an event instead of spinning calling a shirt delay). To embed the system in a web browser one needs both to render to the browser window and to receive mouse and keyboard events from the window. So the "plugin" must be connected to the VM's event subsystem e.g. by a socket. Just as the VM's graphics subsystem must output to the browser window. There are lots of ways to slice this and it will likely be different for BitBlt and Athens. Eliot (phone) > > Stef >> >> -- >> best, >> Eliot > >

Oct. 26, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] new GT features: disk memory, ws.stfx.eu sharing, closeable panes and others

by stepharo

On 25/10/14 01:48, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Steph, > > No. It's just a stupid dump on the harddisk of the current contents as > soon as there is a change. Where do I find more about the undo mechanism? Look in the history package in the image A HistoryIterator holds an UndoRedoGroup in order to store an history of commands with the possibility of undoing and redoing. The iterator cursor is represented by the index inst var. Index always contains the position of the command that can be currently undone. So, undo decrease index and redo increase index. When a new record is stored, then, index contains the newly added record position. See HistoryIteratorTest for examples. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:40 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > For Instant caching did you use the undo mechanism of Alain? > > Stef > On 25/10/14 06:19, Tudor Girba wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We are quite actively working on GT. >> >> First of all, thanks everyone for the feedback. We take it quite >> seriously and we do our best to take it into account. Please keep >> the discussions flowing. >> >> I summarized some of the things that happened recently in the >> playground and inspector here: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/gt-developments-endless-playground-me… >> >> Let us know what you think. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 26, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] Run Spur run!!

by stepharo

> > Yes, I'm very excited. It's so great to have strong collaborators > like ClÃ©ment, Ronie, Doug and Tim. But there's lots of room for more > to join us. For a really cool project how about grabbing Bert > Freudenberg's VMMakerJS Squeak-vm-on-JavaScript, extract the event > handling and rendering part and connect it to the Cog VM via sockets > to give us a really fast web plugin? I thought that the event handling was what JB is doing with the idle process on android. Stef > > -- > best, > Eliot

Oct. 26, 2014

Re: [Pharo-dev] PackageChooser logic

by stepharo

On 26/10/14 03:20, Hilaire wrote: > It is the packager choose from the Finder tools. > I don't say the tools is wrong: in the contrary both the Finder and > PackageChooser are pretty well designed from usability point of view, I > like them very much! > > What I suggest from an usability point of view: > when you click in the "Packages..." button, by default the > PackageChooser dialog could open with no package selected (or the > previously selected ones) and not the whole packages of the system as it > is now. > > >From the user point of view when you click the "Packages..." button you > expect to start from an empty list and select a few package to search in. > > It is really a minor detail, and other people may have different > different view, or so? Usuability is important and little glitches are annoying. So can you open a bug entry with step by step description? Tx Stef > > > Le 24/10/2014 14:08, stepharo a Ã©crit : >> Hilaire could you describe how to get the PackageChooser because people >> may interpret it in different ways. >> On 24/10/14 11:53, Hilaire wrote: >>> I found the logic of the PackageChooser from the finder to be pretty >>> weird. >>> >>> You can't directly select the packages you want to search in: you need >>> to select all, reject, then reselect the ones you want to search in. >>> >>> >>> How do you think about it? >>> >>> >> >> >

Oct. 26, 2014