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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

by Hilaire

IMHO, underneath the windows theme argument is the question of the GUI look and feel instability Pharo suffers from one release to another one, this ruin a bit the idea of people willing to design desktop application[1] with Pharo, where consistency in this department is more or less needed. In another hand Phobos may be a better choice then. Best, Hilaire [1] I just had a chat yesterday on IRC with a guy that want to migrate his desktop application to Pharo Le 03/04/2015 18:18, Esteban Lorenzano a Ã©crit : > yetâ¦ while I disagree with the idea of having a âwindowsâ theme (or any platform specific theme), I think it would be cool to have an option to flip the control buttonsâ¦ that can work as an extension of current theme, not as a different theme. > Problem is âwho does itâ, more than yes or not to have it :) > > Esteban -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM and .sources in separate dirs question

by Jigyasa Grover

Thanks for the clarification Max. I had the same doubt :) On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 03 Apr 2015, at 17:55, Dmitri Zagidulin <dmitri(a)zagidulin.net> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > that you can keep the VM and .sources in different directories? How do >> you tell the VM where to locate the sources? >> >> You donât. Itâs detected automagically! >> > > Wait, how does it know which .sources file to pick? :) What if there are > .sources from multiple versions of Pharo, etc, lying around on the hard > drive? > > > The image decides which sources file it needs. I have all of mine in a > single directory with all the different VMs. Works like a charm. >

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

by Jigyasa Grover

Thanks Dmitri ! Will try to contribute as much as I can :) On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Dmitri Zagidulin <dmitri(a)zagidulin.net> wrote: > Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc: > > * Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea. > Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of > classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X > characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad) > on who's working on which classes. > > * Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test > various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite > pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource, > etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it > loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best > yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on > the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects. > > * Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is > faster at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing. > > * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to > use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview > questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your > Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on. > > * As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo > FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve > them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed, > you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to > reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you > reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the > pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed. > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > >> >> > On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Ohk. >> > No issues :) >> > Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D >> > >> >> Yesâ¦ maybe other people have ideas? >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Resizing of the print block (Pharo 4.0)

by Tudor Girba

No, the print popup dimension is not changeable at the moment. But, Ii you want, you can embed the print string in the Playground by pressing Enter. Cheers, Doru On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Gaurav Singh <grvanm.coder(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is there a way to resize the print block in the playground? Sometimes when > the string is quite a bit long the print block never goes beyond a specific > dimension which is quite less and therefore we have to scroll down more > rows to check the output and the only way to see the better output is the > inspector whereas in Pharo 3.0 we saw that the output depended on the size > of the workspace. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo sprint on Friday, 3rd April

by Dmitri Zagidulin

Ideas for beginners, for Sprints etc: * Adding class comments/documentation, as mentioned, is a fantastic idea. Maybe we can provide some code snippets, that will bring up a list of classes with missing comments (or with too-short comments, less than X characters). People can coordinate (on IRC, or via something like EtherPad) on who's working on which classes. * Not related to core Pharo code itself, but still very helpful: Test various libraries for compatibility with Pharo 4.0. Pick your favorite pharo-related project or library off of SmalltalkHub (or SqueakSource, etc), try to load it into Pharo 4. Run the unit tests. Fix stuff until it loads fine in 4.0.Try and use the library in a simple demo project. Best yet, write a blog post about it. The success of Pharo largely depends on the success of its ecosystem of libraries and projects. * Benchmark things. Which JSON library (of the several available) is faster at parsing large json objects in Pharo 4? That sort of thing. * Write blog posts in general! Write tutorials and walkthroughs on how to use some of the new 4.0 features. Do programming puzzles / interview questions and post about em. Share tips on how you theme and customize your Pharo images, which tools you use most, and so on. * As mentioned before, at least browse the open 4.0 issues on the pharo FogBugz. Try to think about how you'd go about discovering how to solve them. You'll learn a lot about the system. Also, once the issues are fixed, you can help test and confirm the fix (if you can figure out the 'how to reproduce' steps). Follow the 'to reproduce' steps to make sure you reproduce the error/issue. Then load the slice containing the fix from the pharo inbox repo, and redo the steps again to make sure it was fixed. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > > On 03 Apr 2015, at 14:36, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Ohk. > > No issues :) > > Looking forward to other Pharo Sprints focusing on beginners :D > > > > Yesâ¦ maybe other people have ideas? > > Marcus > > >

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Brand new modern Spotter design!

by Tudor Girba

I wonder :) Doru On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Maybe the color is an April 1st joke ? > > > On 03 Apr 2015, at 10:30, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Universal :)))) > > > > Doru > > > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> > wrote: > > On 01/04/15 11:53, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Nah, you have to experience it first hand yourself. It's too cool to > > experience it via a dead picture. > > > > On wednesday we used it in the devnology workshop. > > It just works, no participants had any remarks :) > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

by Esteban Lorenzano

yetâ¦ while I disagree with the idea of having a âwindowsâ theme (or any platform specific theme), I think it would be cool to have an option to flip the control buttonsâ¦ that can work as an extension of current theme, not as a different theme. Problem is âwho does itâ, more than yes or not to have it :) Esteban > On 03 Apr 2015, at 18:09, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > > Le 03/04/2015 16:21, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : >> right, we removed W2K already for Pharo3. >> >> Itâs 2015... > > Still Benoit wrote about users. > Do Benoit think about users of a specific Pharo Desktop application? In > that case it can have implication upgrading this application to newer > Pharo, because destabilizing end user is annoying. > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu > iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu > > >

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo 4 Beta, first impressions

by Hilaire

Le 03/04/2015 16:21, Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : > right, we removed W2K already for Pharo3. > > Itâs 2015... Still Benoit wrote about users. Do Benoit think about users of a specific Pharo Desktop application? In that case it can have implication upgrading this application to newer Pharo, because destabilizing end user is annoying. Hilaire -- Dr. Geo - http://drgeo.eu iStoa - http://istoa.drgeo.eu

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM and .sources in separate dirs question

by Max Leske

> On 03 Apr 2015, at 17:55, Dmitri Zagidulin <dmitri(a)zagidulin.net> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com <mailto:maxleske@gmail.com>> wrote: > > that you can keep the VM and .sources in different directories? How do you tell the VM where to locate the sources? > > You donât. Itâs detected automagically! > > Wait, how does it know which .sources file to pick? :) What if there are .sources from multiple versions of Pharo, etc, lying around on the hard drive? > The image decides which sources file it needs. I have all of mine in a single directory with all the different VMs. Works like a charm.

April 3, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] VM and .sources in separate dirs question

by Dmitri Zagidulin

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Max Leske <maxleske(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > that you can keep the VM and .sources in different directories? How do > you tell the VM where to locate the sources? > > You donât. Itâs detected automagically! > Wait, how does it know which .sources file to pick? :) What if there are .sources from multiple versions of Pharo, etc, lying around on the hard drive?

April 3, 2015