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Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by Esteban Lorenzano

and as is obviously not as clear as it should, let me rephrase what Iâm asking for: packages that are in the image and not in my list *and are interesting for end users* :) cheers, Esteban > On 16 Apr 2015, at 15:48, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>. > The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. > I made a mall list. > I need you to help me to complete it. > > Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. > > thanks! > Esteban > > > Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets... > > > Development Tools > ================= > - GTInspector > - GTPlayground > - GTSpotter > - Nautilus > - Debugger > - TestRunner > - Versionner > - Code Critics > - Refactoring Tools > - Profilers > > Development > =========== > > Frameworks > ---------- > - Announcements > - Regex > - Keymapping > - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...) > - Command Line > > Testing > ------- > - SUnit > > GUI > --- > - OSWindow > - Glamour > - Spec > - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText) > > Graphics > -------- > - Athens > - Balloon > - Graphics > - Fonts (FreeType) > > FFI > --- > - NativeBoost > > Networking > ---------- > - Zinc/Zodiac > > I/O > --- > - FileSystem > - Compression (Zip, GZip) > > Serializer > ---------- > - Fuel > > Crypt > ----- > - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32 > > JIT > --- > - AsmJit > > SCM > --- > - Gofer > - Monticello > - Metacello > > Tutorial > ======== > - ProfStef >

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shorter Pharo Launcher download link

by Damien Cassou

Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> writes: > Thanks for the clarification! Where are the Nix and Gentoo infrastructure > hosted? I think we should collect all of these things under github/pharo for Nix, this is in the nixpkgs repository: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/tree/master/pkgs/development/pharo for Gentoo, it seems that several people contributed several recipes. I put JC on CC so he can tell more. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:44, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > > > 2015-04-16 15:48 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > Hi, > > I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>. > The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. > I made a mall list. > I need you to help me to complete it. > > Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. > > thanks! > Esteban > > > > Suggestions: > > - I would move "Refactoring Tools" to frameworks, or do we have a Refactoring Tool besides Code Critics and Nautilus refactoring support? > - Glamour is more a framework than a GUI library ok, this two. > - I would remove OSWindow it does not work "out of the boxâ. not quite. With SDL2 is very usableâ¦ it is rough, thatâs trueâ¦ but it works :) (and stable vm come with sdl2 for all platforms, too) > - there is a "Graphics" entry in category "Graphics", some hints what you would like to see for this entry? yeahâ¦ name not good. This is the old graphics library (the one we actually use to display the world), I donât know how to call itâ¦ BitBlt graphics, perhaps? Esteban

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hernan, > On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:48, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Ok about descriptions, but Pharo compatibility versions should be provided for each package, if not you would end with hundreds of packages not loadable in Pharo 4....and people then have to guess which is the right Pharo version for a package. as my mail says, this are the frameworks already in the image, not a list of cool stuff people can download, but the things are already there. So in case of version, all versions are the same: 4.0 For downloaded packages there is already: http://catalog.pharo.org <http://catalog.pharo.org/> (which will be enhanced in the future, but is already there). cheers, Esteban > > Your list is more or less the "core" packages already loaded by default in Pharo images. > > HernÃ¡n > > 2015-04-16 11:38 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > >> On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:32, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com <mailto:hernan.morales@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> You didn't specified which Pharo version. >> >> And you didn't provided even a minimal description... for an outsider Monticello and Metacello sounds almost the same, same with GTPlayground and GTSpotter, etc. > > this is for *you* to help me, not the final web page. > >> >> Cheers, >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> >> >> >> 2015-04-16 10:48 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >> Hi, >> >> I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>. >> The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. >> I made a mall list. >> I need you to help me to complete it. >> >> Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. >> >> thanks! >> Esteban >> >> >> Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets... >> >> >> Development Tools >> ================= >> - GTInspector >> - GTPlayground >> - GTSpotter >> - Nautilus >> - Debugger >> - TestRunner >> - Versionner >> - Code Critics >> - Refactoring Tools >> - Profilers >> >> Development >> =========== >> >> Frameworks >> ---------- >> - Announcements >> - Regex >> - Keymapping >> - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...) >> - Command Line >> >> Testing >> ------- >> - SUnit >> >> GUI >> --- >> - OSWindow >> - Glamour >> - Spec >> - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText) >> >> Graphics >> -------- >> - Athens >> - Balloon >> - Graphics >> - Fonts (FreeType) >> >> FFI >> --- >> - NativeBoost >> >> Networking >> ---------- >> - Zinc/Zodiac >> >> I/O >> --- >> - FileSystem >> - Compression (Zip, GZip) >> >> Serializer >> ---------- >> - Fuel >> >> Crypt >> ----- >> - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32 >> >> JIT >> --- >> - AsmJit >> >> SCM >> --- >> - Gofer >> - Monticello >> - Metacello >> >> Tutorial >> ======== >> - ProfStef >> >> > >

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pillar: Link to anchor in same document

by Damien Cassou

Hi Sean, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> writes: > I'm updating the Pharo website and want to link to an anchor on the same > page. > > And after reading > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… > , I tried: > *Ubuntu ppa instructions>ubuntu* > but it linked to http://pharo.org/ubuntu instead of > http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation.STAGE#ubuntu > > Then I tried: > *Ubuntu ppa instructions>@ubuntu* -> linked back to the same page, but no > anchor was appended > *Ubuntu ppa instructions>#ubuntu* -> worked, but rendered the link text as > "Â¿?Ubuntu ppa instructions" > > How should I handle this? For the time being I'll leave the last version > which works at least... there is a bug in Pillar. We've just spent 1h on it with Cyril and our conclusion is that the current numbering feature of Pillar is too complex to be maintained. We will rewrite it. In the meantime, you just can't use anchors. I'm sorry. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

I support this. CSV is pretty basic feature in any programming environment out there: R, Python, Ruby, PHP, MATLAB, etc. include it in their standard library. HernÃ¡n 2015-04-16 11:45 GMT-03:00 Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com>: > I remember seeing this post > http://forum.world.st/Why-not-having-NeoCSV-and-NeoJSON-in-the-image-td4808… > which seems relevant to this - having bundles of packages dedicated to > certain task. > > Reading CSV is a basic feature in R for reading data. Moose/ Roassal / GT >> combo should have that out of the box. >> ... >> Build an image with >> Roassal >> CSV >> JSON >> XML >> + some math packages > > > Peter > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com > > wrote: > >> Hi Esteban, >> >> This is an excellent initiative! >> I have checked the pharo.org website, and it looks like that we should >> list the catalog of applications. >> Which cool application users can use with Pharo? >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org. >> The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, >> but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they >> can have *just downloading it*. >> I made a mall list. >> I need you to help me to complete it. >> >> Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools >> that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. >> >> thanks! >> Esteban >> >> >> Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads >> (Green), Sockets... >> >> >> Development Tools >> ================= >> - GTInspector >> - GTPlayground >> - GTSpotter >> - Nautilus >> - Debugger >> - TestRunner >> - Versionner >> - Code Critics >> - Refactoring Tools >> - Profilers >> >> Development >> =========== >> >> Frameworks >> ---------- >> - Announcements >> - Regex >> - Keymapping >> - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, >> japanese, Greek, ...) >> - Command Line >> >> Testing >> ------- >> - SUnit >> >> GUI >> --- >> - OSWindow >> - Glamour >> - Spec >> - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText) >> >> Graphics >> -------- >> - Athens >> - Balloon >> - Graphics >> - Fonts (FreeType) >> >> FFI >> --- >> - NativeBoost >> >> Networking >> ---------- >> - Zinc/Zodiac >> >> I/O >> --- >> - FileSystem >> - Compression (Zip, GZip) >> >> Serializer >> ---------- >> - Fuel >> >> Crypt >> ----- >> - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32 >> >> JIT >> --- >> - AsmJit >> >> SCM >> --- >> - Gofer >> - Monticello >> - Metacello >> >> Tutorial >> ======== >> - ProfStef >> >> >> >

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Ok about descriptions, but Pharo compatibility versions should be provided for each package, if not you would end with hundreds of packages not loadable in Pharo 4....and people then have to guess which is the right Pharo version for a package. Your list is more or less the "core" packages already loaded by default in Pharo images. HernÃ¡n 2015-04-16 11:38 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 16 Apr 2015, at 16:32, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > You didn't specified which Pharo version. > > And you didn't provided even a minimal description... for an outsider > Monticello and Metacello sounds almost the same, same with GTPlayground and > GTSpotter, etc. > > > this is for *you* to help me, not the final web page. > > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > > > 2015-04-16 10:48 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org. >> The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, >> but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they >> can have *just downloading it*. >> I made a mall list. >> I need you to help me to complete it. >> >> Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools >> that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. >> >> thanks! >> Esteban >> >> >> Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads >> (Green), Sockets... >> >> >> Development Tools >> ================= >> - GTInspector >> - GTPlayground >> - GTSpotter >> - Nautilus >> - Debugger >> - TestRunner >> - Versionner >> - Code Critics >> - Refactoring Tools >> - Profilers >> >> Development >> =========== >> >> Frameworks >> ---------- >> - Announcements >> - Regex >> - Keymapping >> - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, >> japanese, Greek, ...) >> - Command Line >> >> Testing >> ------- >> - SUnit >> >> GUI >> --- >> - OSWindow >> - Glamour >> - Spec >> - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText) >> >> Graphics >> -------- >> - Athens >> - Balloon >> - Graphics >> - Fonts (FreeType) >> >> FFI >> --- >> - NativeBoost >> >> Networking >> ---------- >> - Zinc/Zodiac >> >> I/O >> --- >> - FileSystem >> - Compression (Zip, GZip) >> >> Serializer >> ---------- >> - Fuel >> >> Crypt >> ----- >> - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32 >> >> JIT >> --- >> - AsmJit >> >> SCM >> --- >> - Gofer >> - Monticello >> - Metacello >> >> Tutorial >> ======== >> - ProfStef >> >> > >

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

I remember seeing this post http://forum.world.st/Why-not-having-NeoCSV-and-NeoJSON-in-the-image-td4808… which seems relevant to this - having bundles of packages dedicated to certain task. Reading CSV is a basic feature in R for reading data. Moose/ Roassal / GT > combo should have that out of the box. > ... > Build an image with > Roassal > CSV > JSON > XML > + some math packages Peter On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi Esteban, > > This is an excellent initiative! > I have checked the pharo.org website, and it looks like that we should > list the catalog of applications. > Which cool application users can use with Pharo? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org. > The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but > people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can > have *just downloading it*. > I made a mall list. > I need you to help me to complete it. > > Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools > that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. > > thanks! > Esteban > > > Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads > (Green), Sockets... > > > Development Tools > ================= > - GTInspector > - GTPlayground > - GTSpotter > - Nautilus > - Debugger > - TestRunner > - Versionner > - Code Critics > - Refactoring Tools > - Profilers > > Development > =========== > > Frameworks > ---------- > - Announcements > - Regex > - Keymapping > - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, > japanese, Greek, ...) > - Command Line > > Testing > ------- > - SUnit > > GUI > --- > - OSWindow > - Glamour > - Spec > - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText) > > Graphics > -------- > - Athens > - Balloon > - Graphics > - Fonts (FreeType) > > FFI > --- > - NativeBoost > > Networking > ---------- > - Zinc/Zodiac > > I/O > --- > - FileSystem > - Compression (Zip, GZip) > > Serializer > ---------- > - Fuel > > Crypt > ----- > - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32 > > JIT > --- > - AsmJit > > SCM > --- > - Gofer > - Monticello > - Metacello > > Tutorial > ======== > - ProfStef > > >

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by Nicolai Hess

2015-04-16 15:48 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org. > The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but > people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can > have *just downloading it*. > I made a mall list. > I need you to help me to complete it. > > Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools > that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. > > thanks! > Esteban > > > Suggestions: - I would move "Refactoring Tools" to frameworks, or do we have a Refactoring Tool besides Code Critics and Nautilus refactoring support? - Glamour is more a framework than a GUI library - I would remove OSWindow it does not work "out of the box". - there is a "Graphics" entry in category "Graphics", some hints what you would like to see for this entry? > >

April 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] HELP WANTED - Frameworks, tools, etc. ready to use

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Esteban, This is an excellent initiative! I have checked the pharo.org <http://pharo.org/> website, and it looks like that we should list the catalog of applications. Which cool application users can use with Pharo? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:48 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to add a âresourcesâ page in pharo.org <http://pharo.org/>. > The reason is simple: we are used to know (more or less) what we have, but people doing a search of what is pharo, etc. does not know what they can have *just downloading it*. > I made a mall list. > I need you to help me to complete it. > > Keep in mind this is high level stuff (not details), frameworks and tools that can be used out of the box for people downloading Pharo. > > thanks! > Esteban > > > Full library including: Collections, Caches, Networking, I/O, Threads (Green), Sockets... > > > Development Tools > ================= > - GTInspector > - GTPlayground > - GTSpotter > - Nautilus > - Debugger > - TestRunner > - Versionner > - Code Critics > - Refactoring Tools > - Profilers > > Development > =========== > > Frameworks > ---------- > - Announcements > - Regex > - Keymapping > - Multilingual (Latin, UTF8, Korean, Russian, Simplified Chinese, japanese, Greek, ...) > - Command Line > > Testing > ------- > - SUnit > > GUI > --- > - OSWindow > - Glamour > - Spec > - Morphic (With full widget set and Rubric, TxText) > > Graphics > -------- > - Athens > - Balloon > - Graphics > - Fonts (FreeType) > > FFI > --- > - NativeBoost > > Networking > ---------- > - Zinc/Zodiac > > I/O > --- > - FileSystem > - Compression (Zip, GZip) > > Serializer > ---------- > - Fuel > > Crypt > ----- > - CRC, DSA, MD5, SHA1, SHA256, Adler32 > > JIT > --- > - AsmJit > > SCM > --- > - Gofer > - Monticello > - Metacello > > Tutorial > ======== > - ProfStef >

April 16, 2015