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Re: [Pharo-dev] New Download instructions (esp. for GNU/Linux)

by Dmitri Zagidulin

Nice work, Sean and everybody! That is an excellent download page. What was the consensus about mentioning Launcher on it, by the way? On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > We revamped the download instructions to incorporate the new VM builds and > platform all-in-ones. The biggest improvement was that GNU/Linux now has > its > own instruction page laying out the various options and gotchas. Of course > we should continue to improve, but IMHO we have addressed the most > persistent gotchas. > > Check out the pages: http://pharo.org/download and > http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation (which is linked from the first) > > Next up: we'd like to use the OpenBuildService to build from sources for > all > supported GNU/Linux configurations. Help is welcome! > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/New-Download-instructions-esp-for-GNU-Linux-tp4820692… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

April 20, 2015

New Download instructions (esp. for GNU/Linux)

by Sean P. DeNigris

We revamped the download instructions to incorporate the new VM builds and platform all-in-ones. The biggest improvement was that GNU/Linux now has its own instruction page laying out the various options and gotchas. Of course we should continue to improve, but IMHO we have addressed the most persistent gotchas. Check out the pages: http://pharo.org/download and http://pharo.org/gnu-linux-installation (which is linked from the first) Next up: we'd like to use the OpenBuildService to build from sources for all supported GNU/Linux configurations. Help is welcome! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Download-instructions-esp-for-GNU-Linux-tp4820692… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] OpenBuildService

by Sean P. DeNigris

I created an issue to keep track... Issue 15371 OpenBuildService https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?15371 ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/OpenBuildService-tp4820143p4820691.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roadmap

by Dmitri Zagidulin

Sounds great. What is 'leading char'? On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:44 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Similar question - are there any roadmap plans to add Dictionary > literals to Pharo? > > We discussed about object format but right now I think that we would like > to (without thinking too much) > - take advantage of Athens > - continue to improve the tools > - put the bootstrap in production > - make SDL2 working for real and OSwindow > - clean spec > - FFI FFI FFI and again FFI > - continue the remodularisation effort > > If I would open a new work place it would be > - to integrate Xtream and get rid of the old streams. > - clean/remove leading char > > Stef > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:20 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> >> Le 20/4/15 16:39, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©crit : >> >> I would love to see two things in Pharo 5: >> >> 1) Fix for mouse scrolling (at least on Mac OS X, though I think it >> does the same on Linux etc) in the class pane. While mouse-scrolling >> (either via a mouse wheel or two-finger scrolling on the touchpad) through >> the classes, the focus frequently and erratically jumps to the package >> pane, and the package pane starts scrolling instead. The focus also >> sometimes jumps when you reach the end of the class list (and, again, the >> package pane starts scrolling instead). >> >> >> Yes >> >> >> 2) A button in the debugger that copies the error message to the >> clipboard (you can sort of do it currently by editing the title of the >> error window, but that's really awkward). >> >> >> it should be easy to do. >> >> >> I also have a question. Are there currently any roadmap plans for >> namespaces or modules for Pharo? I saw a brief discussion about it a few >> years back (http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-Namespaces-td4636635.html ), >> and wanted to see if it's still on the table. >> >> >> Yes but not for Pharo 50. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> if you have suggestions please let us know. Now usually suggestions >>> often comes with time allocation ;) >>> We have definitively a list of points we want to see addressed. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> Le 19/4/15 23:19, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >>> >>> Do we have a roadmap for Pharo 5 already? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

April 20, 2015

New Platform All-in-one Downloads

by Sean P. DeNigris

These have VM + image like the standard Mac/Windows zips - GNU/Linux clib < 2.15 - http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo4.0-linux-oldLibC.zip - CentOS - http://files.pharo.org/platform/Pharo4.0-centos.zip ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Platform-All-in-one-Downloads-tp4820688.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roadmap

by stepharo

> Similar question - are there any roadmap plans to add Dictionary > literals to Pharo? We discussed about object format but right now I think that we would like to (without thinking too much) - take advantage of Athens - continue to improve the tools - put the bootstrap in production - make SDL2 working for real and OSwindow - clean spec - FFI FFI FFI and again FFI - continue the remodularisation effort If I would open a new work place it would be - to integrate Xtream and get rid of the old streams. - clean/remove leading char Stef > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:20 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > > > Le 20/4/15 16:39, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©crit : >> I would love to see two things in Pharo 5: >> >> 1) Fix for mouse scrolling (at least on Mac OS X, though I think >> it does the same on Linux etc) in the class pane. While >> mouse-scrolling (either via a mouse wheel or two-finger scrolling >> on the touchpad) through the classes, the focus frequently and >> erratically jumps to the package pane, and the package pane >> starts scrolling instead. The focus also sometimes jumps when you >> reach the end of the class list (and, again, the package pane >> starts scrolling instead). > > Yes > >> >> 2) A button in the debugger that copies the error message to the >> clipboard (you can sort of do it currently by editing the title >> of the error window, but that's really awkward). > > it should be easy to do. > >> >> I also have a question. Are there currently any roadmap plans for >> namespaces or modules for Pharo? I saw a brief discussion about >> it a few years back >> (http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-Namespaces-td4636635.html ), and >> wanted to see if it's still on the table. > > Yes but not for Pharo 50. > > Stef >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr >> <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> if you have suggestions please let us know. Now usually >> suggestions often comes with time allocation ;) >> We have definitively a list of points we want to see addressed. >> >> Stef >> >> Le 19/4/15 23:19, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >> >> Do we have a roadmap for Pharo 5 already? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

April 20, 2015

GNU/Linux Old libC CI Job

by Sean P. DeNigris

As part of our "first impressions count" effort to overhaul the download process, I've created a Jenkins job on Pharo CI to build a VM for GNU/Linux systems with libc < 2.15 (e.g. Debian 7) - a common gotcha for new users. This VM used to be built externally by Jan Vrany (thanks!). The job is https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/4.0-VM/job/PharoVM-GNU-linux-old_libc/ The zip is mirrored to http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/linux/old-libc/Pharo-VM-linux-oldLibC.zip ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/GNU-Linux-Old-libC-CI-Job-tp4820686.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Little fix to MC merge facility

by stepharo

Jan what is your fix? to show the end of line differently? Do you think that we should integrate it? Stef Le 20/4/15 12:36, Jan Vrany a Ã©crit : > Hi, > > I just wanted to merge some code in Monticello and the merge tool > marked all methods as conflict because their source differ in trailing > whitespace (newline). The diff panel on the right does not show any > difference. > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~JanVrany/Misc/versions/Monticello-Fixes-JanVran… > > Here's a fix for this particular problem in case somebody runs into the > same problem. > > Best, Jan > > >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roadmap

by Dmitri Zagidulin

Similar question - are there any roadmap plans to add Dictionary literals to Pharo? On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:20 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 20/4/15 16:39, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©crit : > > I would love to see two things in Pharo 5: > > 1) Fix for mouse scrolling (at least on Mac OS X, though I think it does > the same on Linux etc) in the class pane. While mouse-scrolling (either via > a mouse wheel or two-finger scrolling on the touchpad) through the classes, > the focus frequently and erratically jumps to the package pane, and the > package pane starts scrolling instead. The focus also sometimes jumps when > you reach the end of the class list (and, again, the package pane starts > scrolling instead). > > > Yes > > > 2) A button in the debugger that copies the error message to the > clipboard (you can sort of do it currently by editing the title of the > error window, but that's really awkward). > > > it should be easy to do. > > > I also have a question. Are there currently any roadmap plans for > namespaces or modules for Pharo? I saw a brief discussion about it a few > years back (http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-Namespaces-td4636635.html ), > and wanted to see if it's still on the table. > > > Yes but not for Pharo 50. > > Stef > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> if you have suggestions please let us know. Now usually suggestions often >> comes with time allocation ;) >> We have definitively a list of points we want to see addressed. >> >> Stef >> >> Le 19/4/15 23:19, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >> >> Do we have a roadmap for Pharo 5 already? >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

April 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roadmap

by stepharo

Le 20/4/15 16:39, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©crit : > I would love to see two things in Pharo 5: > > 1) Fix for mouse scrolling (at least on Mac OS X, though I think it > does the same on Linux etc) in the class pane. While mouse-scrolling > (either via a mouse wheel or two-finger scrolling on the touchpad) > through the classes, the focus frequently and erratically jumps to the > package pane, and the package pane starts scrolling instead. The focus > also sometimes jumps when you reach the end of the class list (and, > again, the package pane starts scrolling instead). Yes > > 2) A button in the debugger that copies the error message to the > clipboard (you can sort of do it currently by editing the title of the > error window, but that's really awkward). it should be easy to do. > > I also have a question. Are there currently any roadmap plans for > namespaces or modules for Pharo? I saw a brief discussion about it a > few years back > (http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-Namespaces-td4636635.html ), and > wanted to see if it's still on the table. Yes but not for Pharo 50. Stef > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr > <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: > > Hi > > if you have suggestions please let us know. Now usually > suggestions often comes with time allocation ;) > We have definitively a list of points we want to see addressed. > > Stef > > Le 19/4/15 23:19, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : > > Do we have a roadmap for Pharo 5 already? > > > > > >

April 20, 2015