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Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving the documentation model

by Sean P. DeNigris

Stephan Eggermont wrote > We should replace the Pillar document format > by a better one, suitable for WYSIWYG editing and > creating long documents. I dream that all documents in my Dynabook are WYSIWYG. However, the computing world seems to have regressed into writing documents in various forms of assembly code. I'd love to have what you are suggesting, but there is too much time, energy, and most importantly emotion invested in Pillar to convince a change. IMHO, the only course would be to collect the people who agree with you, create what you are proposing on your own, and deliver it to the community to see for themselves why it is a better way. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Improving-the-documentation-model-tp4820814p4820935.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Roadmap

by Richard Sargent

Dmitri Zagidulin wrote > Similar question - are there any roadmap plans to add Dictionary literals > to Pharo? Please be careful of complicating the language syntax. Perhaps the better solution is to improve the optimizer until it can recognize the fact that the expression really is constant and can inline the generated code. I had an interesting lesson in this just the other day from Martin McClure. I had been asking for a feature like VA Smalltalk's "compile-time constant". I am now convinced that is not the way to go. > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 1:20 PM, stepharo < > stepharo@ > > wrote: > >> >> >> Le 20/4/15 16:39, Dmitri Zagidulin a Ã©crit : >> >> I would love to see two things in Pharo 5: >> >> 1) Fix for mouse scrolling (at least on Mac OS X, though I think it does >> the same on Linux etc) in the class pane. While mouse-scrolling (either >> via >> a mouse wheel or two-finger scrolling on the touchpad) through the >> classes, >> the focus frequently and erratically jumps to the package pane, and the >> package pane starts scrolling instead. The focus also sometimes jumps >> when >> you reach the end of the class list (and, again, the package pane starts >> scrolling instead). >> >> >> Yes >> >> >> 2) A button in the debugger that copies the error message to the >> clipboard (you can sort of do it currently by editing the title of the >> error window, but that's really awkward). >> >> >> it should be easy to do. >> >> >> I also have a question. Are there currently any roadmap plans for >> namespaces or modules for Pharo? I saw a brief discussion about it a few >> years back (http://forum.world.st/Pharo-and-Namespaces-td4636635.html ), >> and wanted to see if it's still on the table. >> >> >> Yes but not for Pharo 50. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 2:58 AM, stepharo < > stepharo@ > > wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> if you have suggestions please let us know. Now usually suggestions >>> often >>> comes with time allocation ;) >>> We have definitively a list of points we want to see addressed. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> Le 19/4/15 23:19, Torsten Bergmann a Ã©crit : >>> >>> Do we have a roadmap for Pharo 5 already? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Roadmap-tp4820561p4820934.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [squeak-dev] RE: [Metacello] Re: [Vm-dev] Fixes to the SqueakSSL Plugin

by David T. Lewis

Thanks Ron, To confirm, I would like to be a contributor also. The rest of your list (Marcel, Levente, Eliot and Esteban) are all good choices too. Dave > Ok that is done. > > I added Frank Shearar also. > > Anyone else that would like to be added as a contributor please let me > know. > > Marcel Taeumel > Levente Uzonyi > David Lewis > Eliot Miranda > Estaban Lorenzano > > Seem like good choices but I wouldn't want to do it without their say so. > > All the best, > > Ron Teitelbaum > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > Tobias Pape > Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:24 AM > To: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion; The general-purpose > Squeak developers list; Pharo Development List > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Metacello] Re: [Vm-dev] Fixes to the SqueakSSL > Plugin > > > On 21.04.2015, at 17:20, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> thank you very much! >> I will merge it with our branch. > > Note that the platform-specific files are still dispersed over the vm-dev > list. > I will put them into Ron's squeakssl repo > >> >> Esteban >> >>> On 21 Apr 2015, at 16:59, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux(a)gmx.de> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Dear Smalltalkers >>> >>> Starting with Levente Uzonyi's patches to the Linux version of the >>> SqueakSSL-Plugin, we (Marcel Taeumel and me) have ported this to the >>> OS X and Windows version as well. >>> >>> Find three binaries[1] that can be used instead of the ones found on >>> versions found on SqueakSSL's google code page. >>> >>> SqueakSSL: >>> - x86 32bit Linux ELF dynamic library >>> - Contains Levente's SNI feature >>> - needs SqueakSSL-ul.29 or equivalent for SNI support >>> - can work without. >>> - NOT linked against OpenSSL, but >>> _statically_ linked against LibreSSL 2.1.6 [2]. >>> - It should work on older and newer Debian/Ubuntu as well as on >>> CentOS/RedHat/SuSE systems. >>> >>> SqueakSSL.dll >>> - x86 32bit Windows dll (built with Visual Studio 2013) >>> - Uses Schannel API >>> - SNI Support >>> - needs SqueakSSL-ul.29 or equivalent for SNI support >>> - can work without. >>> - setting an Int property via sqSetIntPropertySSL(...) >>> - Unicode problems when extracting the correct peerName in >>> sqExtractPeerName >>> >>> SqueakSSL.bundle >>> - x86 32bit OS X Mach-O dylib (Linked against OS X 10.5 SDK) >>> - Uses Security-Framework >>> - SNI Support >>> - needs SqueakSSL-ul.29 or equivalent for SNI support >>> - can work without. >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------------ >>> >>> The changes necessary for Windows and OS X are not yet available in >>> the squeakvm svn, the linux ones are. >>> I have not yet found a good way to include the static linking in >>> either the way the Autoconf works for Cog or CMake works for the >>> interpreter, but I'll follow-up to this. >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----------- >>> >>> Best regards >>> -Tobias >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [1]: http://forum.world.st/file/n4820846/squeakssl.zip >>> [2]: http://www.libressl.org/ > > > > > >

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving the documentation model

by Ralph Boland

... > and there is no easy to use WYSIWYG UI for LaTeX. ... Why is Lyx not an easy to use WYSIWYG UI for LaTeX. Ralph Boland

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Interrupt a locked pharo image from outside

by Sean P. DeNigris

Thierry Goubier wrote > OSProcess 4.5.13 has a tendancy to lock the image on some linux systems Total shot in the dark, but IIRC setting PipeableOSProcess output to non blocking fixes many lockup scenarios ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Interrupt-a-locked-pharo-image-from-outside-tp4820842… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Recommended image resolution for Pillar books?

by Damien Cassou

Dmitri Zagidulin <dmitri(a)zagidulin.net> writes: > How would one do that? Does the width attribute take HTML style parameters > (px, %)? in the Pillar chapter of EnterprisePharo, I give an example: +Caption of the picture>file://figures/pier-logo.png|width=50+ 50 means half of the line width. Currently, there is no way to specify something in px. https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/EnterprisePharoBook/lastSuccessf… -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Metacello] Re: [Vm-dev] Fixes to the SqueakSSL Plugin

by Ron Teitelbaum

Ok that is done. I added Frank Shearar also. Anyone else that would like to be added as a contributor please let me know. Marcel Taeumel Levente Uzonyi David Lewis Eliot Miranda Estaban Lorenzano Seem like good choices but I wouldn't want to do it without their say so. All the best, Ron Teitelbaum -----Original Message----- From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Tobias Pape Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 11:24 AM To: Squeak Virtual Machine Development Discussion; The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Pharo Development List Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] [Metacello] Re: [Vm-dev] Fixes to the SqueakSSL Plugin On 21.04.2015, at 17:20, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > thank you very much! > I will merge it with our branch. Note that the platform-specific files are still dispersed over the vm-dev list. I will put them into Ron's squeakssl repo > > Esteban > >> On 21 Apr 2015, at 16:59, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> >> >> Dear Smalltalkers >> >> Starting with Levente Uzonyi's patches to the Linux version of the >> SqueakSSL-Plugin, we (Marcel Taeumel and me) have ported this to the >> OS X and Windows version as well. >> >> Find three binaries[1] that can be used instead of the ones found on >> versions found on SqueakSSL's google code page. >> >> SqueakSSL: >> - x86 32bit Linux ELF dynamic library >> - Contains Levente's SNI feature >> - needs SqueakSSL-ul.29 or equivalent for SNI support >> - can work without. >> - NOT linked against OpenSSL, but >> _statically_ linked against LibreSSL 2.1.6 [2]. >> - It should work on older and newer Debian/Ubuntu as well as on >> CentOS/RedHat/SuSE systems. >> >> SqueakSSL.dll >> - x86 32bit Windows dll (built with Visual Studio 2013) >> - Uses Schannel API >> - SNI Support >> - needs SqueakSSL-ul.29 or equivalent for SNI support >> - can work without. >> - setting an Int property via sqSetIntPropertySSL(...) >> - Unicode problems when extracting the correct peerName in >> sqExtractPeerName >> >> SqueakSSL.bundle >> - x86 32bit OS X Mach-O dylib (Linked against OS X 10.5 SDK) >> - Uses Security-Framework >> - SNI Support >> - needs SqueakSSL-ul.29 or equivalent for SNI support >> - can work without. >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------------ >> >> The changes necessary for Windows and OS X are not yet available in >> the squeakvm svn, the linux ones are. >> I have not yet found a good way to include the static linking in >> either the way the Autoconf works for Cog or CMake works for the >> interpreter, but I'll follow-up to this. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >> >> Best regards >> -Tobias >> >> >> >> >> [1]: http://forum.world.st/file/n4820846/squeakssl.zip >> [2]: http://www.libressl.org/

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Improving the documentation model

by Damien Cassou

stephan <stephan(a)stack.nl> writes: > TL;DR: Some roadmap ideas. Looks like a lot of work. > Comments and improvements welcome: > We should replace the Pillar document format > by a better one, suitable for WYSIWYG editing and > creating long documents. I agree that Pillar is far from perfect. Do you propose to (1) start something from scratch or to (2) improve Pillar? If you propose (1), how much do you plan to spend each day and for how long before reaching Pillar current's state? If you propose (2), you can start doing something small today and finish the same day. With (2) you could improve the current situation before we go to bed. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

April 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] verveinJ cannot create mse with too big input

by Fabrizio Perin

Thanks for the quick answer Nicolas, I tried to increase the Java memory in the script but no better results. I will split the project in smaller parts. Not a big deal in this case. Thanks, Fabrizio 2015-04-21 10:30 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Anquetil <nicolas.anquetil(a)inria.fr>: > > it is a know fact, not an error :-) > > Basically, verveinej has to maintain several models of the project in > memory to be able to do its job > if the project is too big, this might end up exploding the memory and > giving unexpected results > > That's why we implemented the incremental parsing option > > Now, what you are reporting looks like a bug, but because of the > conditions, I am not sure it is really one, especially if it works fine > when you split the project in 2 > > You also have the option of twicking the calling script to increase java > memory > In the past, (sun) java used to require contiguous memory (just like > pharo) but jikes removed this constraint > I believe the new oracle java removed the constraint also, so you might be > able to go pretty high in memory on a java execution ... > > Let us know if it works > > nicolas > > PS: This seems like a Moose-dev question rather than a pharo-dev one > > > > On 21/04/2015 10:21, Fabrizio Perin wrote: > > Hello, > I was trying to create an MSE file with VerveinJ and I got an incomplete > MSE at the following error on the console: > > *Exception while Visiting famix repository entities. For example, this > might happen when an entity inside the repository has a property refering > to an entity outside the repository* > * Entity ID: 69580 (a FAMIX.AnnotationInstanceAttribute), property: > parentAnnotationInstance* > *Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: > fr/inria/verveine/core/gen/famix/NamedEntity* > * at > ch.akuhn.fame.internal.RepositoryVisitor.acceptElement(RepositoryVisitor.java:111)* > * at > ch.akuhn.fame.internal.RepositoryVisitor.acceptVisitor(RepositoryVisitor.java:162)* > * at > ch.akuhn.fame.internal.RepositoryVisitor.run(RepositoryVisitor.java:207)* > * at ch.akuhn.fame.Repository.accept(Repository.java:105)* > * at ch.akuhn.fame.Repository.exportMSE(Repository.java:216)* > * at eu.synectique.verveine.core.VerveineParser.emitMSE(Unknown > Source)* > * at eu.synectique.verveine.core.VerveineParser.emitMSE(Unknown > Source)* > * at eu.synectique.verveine.core.VerveineParser.emitMSE(Unknown > Source)* > * at > eu.synectique.verveine.extractor.java.VerveineJParser.main(Unknown Source)* > *Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: > fr.inria.verveine.core.gen.famix.NamedEntity* > * at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:366)* > * at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:355)* > * at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)* > * at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:354)* > * at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:423)* > * at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:308)* > * at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:356)* > * ... 9 more * > > > I'm using windows, not sure how to get the version of verveinJ. The same > does not happen if I split the project in two parts and I parse them > separately. > > Is it known error or am I doing something wrong? > > Thanks in advance, > Fabrizio > > >

April 21, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] de6e0a: 50003

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April 21, 2015