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Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

We use traits all over the place, for example, TSortable or TAssertable, as well as many others... > On 13 May 2015, at 18:38, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > Weren't Traits one of things reported to make VM development harder, or was there a fix coming for that? > cheers -ben > > On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 13/05/2015 16:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > I tried to abstract the Transcript API from the Pharo perspective in > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15528/Add-TTranscript-and-DailyNonInterac… > > If the Cuis Transcript implementation conformed to this, it could become just a plugin replacement/alternative, next to others already present. > > A Trait for the Transcript is very good idea. > > Just a question I had browsing the ThreadsafeTranscript implemntation, I wonder why there is no accessor to instance variables (stream accessSemaphore etc...). > I thought the smalltalk way was to always prefer accessors, under the private protocol if private, but discourage direct access ? > > > -- > Regards, > > Alain > > >

May 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by J. Vuletich (mail lists)

Quoting Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com>: > Le 13/05/2015 16:08, J. Vuletich (mail lists) a Ã©crit : >> Today I did a new commit to the Cuis repo. The Cuis image is now in Cog >> format (6505) instead of Closures format (6504). I hope this allows you >> to run Cuis in your system. >> >> I also addressed some of the issues you raised. I optimized the refresh, >> and avoided the "bolder text" effect. >> >> Now, >> Time millisecondsToRun: [ 1000 timesRepeat: [ Transcript show: 'x' >> ] ]. >> takes 2 ms, even while updating the Display. (Hundreds of times faster). > > Thanks Juan > > It's nice to see how reactive you are :) Thanks. Also thanks for trying and reporting your experience. This lets me solve any issues! > I downloaded the Cuis-4.2-2322 image but still have the same error > message : This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file > (vers. 1007290890). > The cuis image number looks strange. > Is this image supposed to be in 6505 format ? Mhhh. Maybe it is a problem with downloading the file. I guess you cloned https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev , right? Maybe Git thinks it needs to mess with the files? Please try getting the zip file https://github.com/Cuis-Smalltalk/Cuis-Smalltalk-Dev/archive/master.zip and unzipping it. Alternatively, try getting the image file from https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13285702/Cuis4.2-2322.image > What version of squeak vm do you use ? > I'm using a Squeak 4.5 vm who runs perfectly on this system (linux > ubuntu 14.04). > I tried with other older vms but always got this error (only the > 6505 number changed IIRC) > > > -- > Regards, > > Alain Cuis4.2-2322.image was saved with a relatively recent Windows Cog VM from Eliot's site. All previous Cuis images were saved with Squeak4.10.2-2612.exe from squeakvm.org. Always on Windows 7. I run them under Debian Jessie with Eliot's coglinux all the time without problems. The number you get 1007290890 is 16r3C0A0A0A... Those bytes are not there in the header in the image file I have. The first bytes of the image file should be 69 19 00 00 (in hex). This is 6505 in decimal. That's why I suspect of a problem with the image file itself, and maybe a problem with git. Those 0A bytes are LF characters... Maybe git is trying to be "smart" and converting or adding LF characters to what it thinks is text? Regards, Juan Vuletich

May 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by Ben Coman

Weren't Traits one of things reported to make VM development harder, or was there a fix coming for that? cheers -ben On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 13/05/2015 16:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > >> I tried to abstract the Transcript API from the Pharo perspective in >> >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15528/Add-TTranscript-and-DailyNonInterac… >> >> If the Cuis Transcript implementation conformed to this, it could become >> just a plugin replacement/alternative, next to others already present. >> > > A Trait for the Transcript is very good idea. > > Just a question I had browsing the ThreadsafeTranscript implemntation, I > wonder why there is no accessor to instance variables (stream > accessSemaphore etc...). > I thought the smalltalk way was to always prefer accessors, under the > private protocol if private, but discourage direct access ? > > > -- > Regards, > > Alain > > >

May 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 13 May 2015, at 17:57, Alain Rastoul <alf.mmm.cat(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Le 13/05/2015 16:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> I tried to abstract the Transcript API from the Pharo perspective in >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15528/Add-TTranscript-and-DailyNonInterac… >> >> If the Cuis Transcript implementation conformed to this, it could become just a plugin replacement/alternative, next to others already present. > > A Trait for the Transcript is very good idea. > > Just a question I had browsing the ThreadsafeTranscript implemntation, I wonder why there is no accessor to instance variables (stream accessSemaphore etc...). > I thought the smalltalk way was to always prefer accessors, under the private protocol if private, but discourage direct access ? Hmm, why ? I think it is more a question of (personal) style. Direct instance variable access without an accessor is a very good way to keep something private, it is faster as well. With the current tools, finding usages is very easy in both cases. IMO, an object should only implement the strict minimum of (public) messages, so not necessarily getters and setters for everything. Nothing is absolute though. > -- > Regards, > > Alain > >

May 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to use Rubric in Nautilus ....

by Franck Warlouzet

Hi alain thanks a lot! This helps us a lot. We got nearly something working. We will produce a list of methods and changes we had to do. see in the attached cs. Now lookupMenu "default implementation of the algorithm that lookup the menu" | default | default := [ self editingMode menu ]. ^ self model ifNil: [ default value ] ifNotNil: [ :m | m menu ifNil: [ default value ] ] We add a new method in nautilus that creates a menu as follow because m is our NautilusModel menu ^ self sourceCodeMenu: MenuMorph new shifted: false. But I was wondering why m menu does not take into account the information we passed when we created the rubPluggable sourceTextArea := self textMorphClass on: self text: #sourceCodeFrom: accept: #compileSource:notifying: readSelection: #contentsSelectionFrom: menu: #sourceCodeMenu:shifted:. I see that RubEditingArea has a policy but we could find how we can improve RubPluggable to use the menu: To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org From: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org CC: alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to use Rubric in Nautilus .... Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 07:26:15 -0700 --PiÃ¨ce jointe du message transmise-- Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] Trying to use Rubric in Nautilus .... From: alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 16:25:34 +0200 To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org see Rubric-AlainPlantec.196 in the Rubric repo. Iâve added RubPluggableTextMorph and RubPluggableTextMorphExample.Need to be polished certainly but it should facilitate the integration of Rubric in Nautilus. cheersAlain On 12 May 2015, at 22:45, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote:For fun I put the following trace in sourceCodeFrom: aTextMorph Transcript show: '.'. ^ self sourceCodeAnd in general this method is invoked three times instead of one :) Before asking we read all the examples and I saw that selector: is used to communicate and update the code pane. (UIManager default newAutoAcceptTextEntryFor: self get: #selector set: #selector: class: String getEnabled: #haveClassName help: 'Enter a selector' translated entryCompletion: entryCompletion) acceptOnCR: false; ghostText: 'Selector'; withDropListButton; I think this is only for the drop down list. What I meant is that I could use set: and pass the selector to be invoked by the dropdown when the drop down is selected. And it will notify self with the selector: selector. So we could sepcify any selector (ie I can register to the drop box and say call me once you are set). In RubMethodEditingExample>>#selector: it calls the update explicit self updateCodeWith: (cls sourceCodeAt: selector) and updateCodeWith: sets the text on the text model. Now my problem (and may be there is not solution) is how can I connect from a pluggableListMorph to a RubScrollText when the list does not generate announcement. This is why I tried to pass via dependents or something like that. I will try to generate announcements but this is a lot more work and I do not know if it will work. Stef

May 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by Alain Rastoul

Le 13/05/2015 16:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > I tried to abstract the Transcript API from the Pharo perspective in > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/15528/Add-TTranscript-and-DailyNonInterac… > > If the Cuis Transcript implementation conformed to this, it could become just a plugin replacement/alternative, next to others already present. A Trait for the Transcript is very good idea. Just a question I had browsing the ThreadsafeTranscript implemntation, I wonder why there is no accessor to instance variables (stream accessSemaphore etc...). I thought the smalltalk way was to always prefer accessors, under the private protocol if private, but discourage direct access ? -- Regards, Alain

May 13, 2015

New CogVMs available

by Eliot Miranda

at http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3336/. CogVM binaries as per VMMaker.oscog-eem.1299/r3336 Clarify how to specify variadic primitives in the Cogit's primitive table initializer (it had confused me enough to cause a regression). Fix the regression in genPrmitiveClass. Implement the stream primtiives using genFastPrimFail which should speed up the stream prims noticeably. -- best, Eliot

May 13, 2015

Re: [Pharo-dev] Transcript needs your love

by Alain Rastoul

Le 13/05/2015 16:08, J. Vuletich (mail lists) a Ã©crit : > Today I did a new commit to the Cuis repo. The Cuis image is now in Cog > format (6505) instead of Closures format (6504). I hope this allows you > to run Cuis in your system. > > I also addressed some of the issues you raised. I optimized the refresh, > and avoided the "bolder text" effect. > > Now, > Time millisecondsToRun: [ 1000 timesRepeat: [ Transcript show: 'x' > ] ]. > takes 2 ms, even while updating the Display. (Hundreds of times faster). Thanks Juan It's nice to see how reactive you are :) I downloaded the Cuis-4.2-2322 image but still have the same error message : This interpreter (vers. 6505) cannot read image file (vers. 1007290890). The cuis image number looks strange. Is this image supposed to be in 6505 format ? What version of squeak vm do you use ? I'm using a Squeak 4.5 vm who runs perfectly on this system (linux ubuntu 14.04). I tried with other older vms but always got this error (only the 6505 number changed IIRC) -- Regards, Alain

May 13, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core] fa0da0: 50046

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May 13, 2015

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/50046 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

May 13, 2015