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Re: [Pharo-dev] spotter: top search for senders and references

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 19 Jan 2016, at 15:23, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It turns the search field into a "kind of" command line interface, with #sen/#ref as commands. > I love CLIs so I welcome it, but I think It "perverts" the search field and uses an awkward syntax. I prefer to type "senders" than to type a special character like #. > > I would prefer adding a suffix command so you search for 'do: senders' or 'do: implementorsâ. just that there is no syntactical way to know when you want senders or just retrieve methods who start with do: and continue with keyword senâ¦ etc. thatâs the reason from the hashtag (which is now a common symbol to filter/tag like in twitter/facebook/etc.) cheers, Esteban > > Regards! > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > 2016-01-19 10:43 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>>: > Hi, > > With the latest GT integration, we also integrated the search for senders and references from the first step. > > Here is a detailed explanation about it, including what we still want to do, how itâs done, and how to discover what else is around: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/spotting-senders-references-with-gtsp… <http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/spotting-senders-references-with-gtsp…> > > <spotter-senders.png> > > Please let us know what you think. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > www.feenk.com <http://www.feenk.com/> > > "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding." >

Jan. 19, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

by phil＠highoctane.be

Keep up the good work, this is a huge step in making the whole thing a crystal clear box! Phil On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Christophe Demarey < christophe.demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi all, > > In case you do not know, we work on bootstrapping Pharo, i.e. create a > Pharo image from sources, not based on a previous image (well, we use a > pharo image to produce it but no code / state from it). > > This process will allow to define a minimal Pharo kernel (currently 52 > packages but we could have it far smaller) and to modularize the whole > image (currently packages have too much dependencies on packages already > loaded into the image). > The bootstrap process also allows to write down the recipe to initialize a > new image from scratch (some code is missing in the image or is wrong). In > addition, I think we will clean a lot of historical objects that are not > used anymore. > > With the amazing work done by Guillermo Polito during his Phd (around > Espell, Oz): https://guillep.github.io/files/publications/Poli15Thesis.pdf > , *we succeeded to get a first prototype of a bootstraped Pharo 5 image > (from 5.392)*. > This prototype is able to run an eval command line handler and to log > output / errors. Not all classes are yet initialized and you cannot yet > save / restart this image but it is a big step forward. > It is a 4 mb image (could be half the size without unicode data). You can > download it at: > http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/pmwiki/pub/pharo-bootstrap/pharo-… > . > > Next steps are to have a bootstrapped image fully working, then to load > packages on top of it (like network, sunit) to produce a minimal image. > Then, we need to implement an Oz VM on top of Spur. > After that, we need to work on a reliable way to build the bootstrap (not > too sensitive to changes in the image). > > Christophe. > > ------- > demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ > ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "1 + 1" > 2 > demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ > ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "'a' , 'b'" > 'ab' > demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ > ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "1 / 0" > ZeroDivide > SmallInteger>>/ > UndefinedObject>>DoIt > OpalCompiler>>evaluate > OpalCompiler(AbstractCompiler)>>evaluate: > SmalltalkImage>>evaluate: > > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluate: in Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluate: > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluateArguments > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>activate > EvaluateCommandLineHandler class(CommandLineHandler class)>>activateWith: > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activateSubCommand: in > Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activateSubCommand: > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>handleSubcommand > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>handleArgument: > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activate in > Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activate > PharoCommandLineHandler>>activate > PharoCommandLineHandler class(CommandLineHandler class)>>activateWith: > > PharoCommandLineHandler class>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in PharoCommandLineHandler class>>activateWith: in Block: no > source > NonInteractiveUIManager(UIManager)>>defer: > PharoCommandLineHandler class>>activateWith: > no source in BasicCommandLineHandler>>activateSubCommand: in Block: no > source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > BasicCommandLineHandler>>activateSubCommand: > BasicCommandLineHandler>>handleSubcommand > BasicCommandLineHandler>>handleArgument: > no source in BasicCommandLineHandler>>activate in Block: no source > > SmallInteger>>no (source is Undeclared) > > UndefinedObject>>no (source is Undeclared) > > AbstractCompiler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BlockClosure>>no (source is Undeclared) > > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > CommandLineHandler class>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > PharoCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > UIManager>>no (source is Undeclared) > > UndefinedObject>>no (source is Undeclared) > > CommandLineUIManager>>no (source is Undeclared) > > SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) > > DelayMicrosecondScheduler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BlockClosure>>no (source is Undeclared) > > SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) > > WeakArray class>>no (source is Undeclared) > > > ps: source cannot be displayed because there is no formatter available in > the bootstrap > >

Jan. 19, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo bootstrap

by Max Leske

Awesome!! Great work guys! > On 19 Jan 2016, at 15:29, Christophe Demarey <christophe.demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > Hi all, > > In case you do not know, we work on bootstrapping Pharo, i.e. create a Pharo image from sources, not based on a previous image (well, we use a pharo image to produce it but no code / state from it). > > This process will allow to define a minimal Pharo kernel (currently 52 packages but we could have it far smaller) and to modularize the whole image (currently packages have too much dependencies on packages already loaded into the image). > The bootstrap process also allows to write down the recipe to initialize a new image from scratch (some code is missing in the image or is wrong). In addition, I think we will clean a lot of historical objects that are not used anymore. > > With the amazing work done by Guillermo Polito during his Phd (around Espell, Oz): https://guillep.github.io/files/publications/Poli15Thesis.pdf <https://guillep.github.io/files/publications/Poli15Thesis.pdf>, we succeeded to get a first prototype of a bootstraped Pharo 5 image (from 5.392). > This prototype is able to run an eval command line handler and to log output / errors. Not all classes are yet initialized and you cannot yet save / restart this image but it is a big step forward. > It is a 4 mb image (could be half the size without unicode data). You can download it at: http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/pmwiki/pub/pharo-bootstrap/pharo-… <http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/pmwiki/pub/pharo-bootstrap/pharo-…>. > > Next steps are to have a bootstrapped image fully working, then to load packages on top of it (like network, sunit) to produce a minimal image. > Then, we need to implement an Oz VM on top of Spur. > After that, we need to work on a reliable way to build the bootstrap (not too sensitive to changes in the image). > > Christophe. > > ------- > demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "1 + 1" > 2 > demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "'a' , 'b'" > 'ab' > demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "1 / 0" > ZeroDivide > SmallInteger>>/ > UndefinedObject>>DoIt > OpalCompiler>>evaluate > OpalCompiler(AbstractCompiler)>>evaluate: > SmalltalkImage>>evaluate: > > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluate: in Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluate: > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluateArguments > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>activate > EvaluateCommandLineHandler class(CommandLineHandler class)>>activateWith: > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activateSubCommand: in Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activateSubCommand: > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>handleSubcommand > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>handleArgument: > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activate in Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activate > PharoCommandLineHandler>>activate > PharoCommandLineHandler class(CommandLineHandler class)>>activateWith: > > PharoCommandLineHandler class>>no (source is Undeclared) > no source in PharoCommandLineHandler class>>activateWith: in Block: no source > NonInteractiveUIManager(UIManager)>>defer: > PharoCommandLineHandler class>>activateWith: > no source in BasicCommandLineHandler>>activateSubCommand: in Block: no source > BlockClosure>>on:do: > BasicCommandLineHandler>>activateSubCommand: > BasicCommandLineHandler>>handleSubcommand > BasicCommandLineHandler>>handleArgument: > no source in BasicCommandLineHandler>>activate in Block: no source > > SmallInteger>>no (source is Undeclared) > > UndefinedObject>>no (source is Undeclared) > > AbstractCompiler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BlockClosure>>no (source is Undeclared) > > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > CommandLineHandler class>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > PharoCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > UIManager>>no (source is Undeclared) > > UndefinedObject>>no (source is Undeclared) > > CommandLineUIManager>>no (source is Undeclared) > > SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) > > DelayMicrosecondScheduler>>no (source is Undeclared) > > BlockClosure>>no (source is Undeclared) > > SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) > > WeakArray class>>no (source is Undeclared) > > > ps: source cannot be displayed because there is no formatter available in the bootstrap >

Jan. 19, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd + click

by Nicolai Hess

2016-01-19 15:37 GMT+01:00 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com>: > Hi, there was a future that "cmd + click" browsed classes or showed > implementors. Now it doesnât seem to work at least in Nautilus. > > Is anyone aware of this? > platform and image version? It works on Windows pharo 50529: alt+right click -> browse Class/implementors of alt+shift+right click -> users of class /senders of > > Cheers. > Uko >

Jan. 19, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Cmd + click

by Aliaksei Syrel

+1 On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi, there was a future that "cmd + click" browsed classes or showed > implementors. Now it doesnât seem to work at least in Nautilus. > > Is anyone aware of this? > > Cheers. > Uko >

Jan. 19, 2016

Cmd + click

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi, there was a future that "cmd + click" browsed classes or showed implementors. Now it doesnât seem to work at least in Nautilus. Is anyone aware of this? Cheers. Uko

Jan. 19, 2016

[ANN] Pharo bootstrap

by Christophe Demarey

Hi all, In case you do not know, we work on bootstrapping Pharo, i.e. create a Pharo image from sources, not based on a previous image (well, we use a pharo image to produce it but no code / state from it). This process will allow to define a minimal Pharo kernel (currently 52 packages but we could have it far smaller) and to modularize the whole image (currently packages have too much dependencies on packages already loaded into the image). The bootstrap process also allows to write down the recipe to initialize a new image from scratch (some code is missing in the image or is wrong). In addition, I think we will clean a lot of historical objects that are not used anymore. With the amazing work done by Guillermo Polito during his Phd (around Espell, Oz): https://guillep.github.io/files/publications/Poli15Thesis.pdf, we succeeded to get a first prototype of a bootstraped Pharo 5 image (from 5.392). This prototype is able to run an eval command line handler and to log output / errors. Not all classes are yet initialized and you cannot yet save / restart this image but it is a big step forward. It is a 4 mb image (could be half the size without unicode data). You can download it at: http://chercheurs.lille.inria.fr/~demarey/pmwiki/pub/pharo-bootstrap/pharo-…. Next steps are to have a bootstrapped image fully working, then to load packages on top of it (like network, sunit) to produce a minimal image. Then, we need to implement an Oz VM on top of Spur. After that, we need to work on a reliable way to build the bootstrap (not too sensitive to changes in the image). Christophe. ------- demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "1 + 1" 2 demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "'a' , 'b'" 'ab' demarey@193-51-236-143:~/dev/rmod/bootstrap/bootstrap-2016-01-19$ ../pharo bootstrap.image --no-default-preferences eval "1 / 0" ZeroDivide SmallInteger>>/ UndefinedObject>>DoIt OpalCompiler>>evaluate OpalCompiler(AbstractCompiler)>>evaluate: SmalltalkImage>>evaluate: EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) no source in EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluate: in Block: no source BlockClosure>>on:do: EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluate: EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>evaluateArguments EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>activate EvaluateCommandLineHandler class(CommandLineHandler class)>>activateWith: BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) no source in PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activateSubCommand: in Block: no source BlockClosure>>on:do: PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activateSubCommand: PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>handleSubcommand PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>handleArgument: BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) no source in PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activate in Block: no source BlockClosure>>on:do: PharoCommandLineHandler(BasicCommandLineHandler)>>activate PharoCommandLineHandler>>activate PharoCommandLineHandler class(CommandLineHandler class)>>activateWith: PharoCommandLineHandler class>>no (source is Undeclared) no source in PharoCommandLineHandler class>>activateWith: in Block: no source NonInteractiveUIManager(UIManager)>>defer: PharoCommandLineHandler class>>activateWith: no source in BasicCommandLineHandler>>activateSubCommand: in Block: no source BlockClosure>>on:do: BasicCommandLineHandler>>activateSubCommand: BasicCommandLineHandler>>handleSubcommand BasicCommandLineHandler>>handleArgument: no source in BasicCommandLineHandler>>activate in Block: no source SmallInteger>>no (source is Undeclared) UndefinedObject>>no (source is Undeclared) AbstractCompiler>>no (source is Undeclared) SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) BlockClosure>>no (source is Undeclared) EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) EvaluateCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) CommandLineHandler class>>no (source is Undeclared) BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) BasicCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) PharoCommandLineHandler>>no (source is Undeclared) UIManager>>no (source is Undeclared) UndefinedObject>>no (source is Undeclared) CommandLineUIManager>>no (source is Undeclared) SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) DelayMicrosecondScheduler>>no (source is Undeclared) BlockClosure>>no (source is Undeclared) SmalltalkImage>>no (source is Undeclared) WeakArray class>>no (source is Undeclared) ps: source cannot be displayed because there is no formatter available in the bootstrap

Jan. 19, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] spotter: top search for senders and references

by Esteban A. Maringolo

It turns the search field into a "kind of" command line interface, with #sen/#ref as commands. I love CLIs so I welcome it, but I think It "perverts" the search field and uses an awkward syntax. I prefer to type "senders" than to type a special character like #. I would prefer adding a suffix command so you search for 'do: senders' or 'do: implementors'. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2016-01-19 10:43 GMT-03:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi, > > With the latest GT integration, we also integrated the search for senders > and references from the first step. > > Here is a detailed explanation about it, including what we still want to > do, how itâs done, and how to discover what else is around: > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/spotting-senders-references-with-gtsp… > > > Please let us know what you think. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem > understanding." >

Jan. 19, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] how do I get the list of categories in Spotter?

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Itâs not magic :) You can directly query this programmatically. - Find all processors defined in the image: GTSpotter spotterExtendingMethods - Find the top level processors defined in the first step GTSpotter spotterExtendingMethods select: [ :each | each methodClass = GTSpotter ] You can find some more details in the last post: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/spotting-senders-references-with-gtsp… Does this make sense? Cheers, Doru > On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:36 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Hi > > I was stupid enough to write in the book that #method is for methods. but this is for #implementors. > So how do I get the list of categories in Spotter? > Magic? > > Stef > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Not knowing how to do something is not an argument for how it cannot be done."

Jan. 19, 2016

spotter: top search for senders and references

by Tudor Girba

Hi, With the latest GT integration, we also integrated the search for senders and references from the first step. Here is a detailed explanation about it, including what we still want to do, how itâs done, and how to discover what else is around: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/spotting-senders-references-with-gtsp… Please let us know what you think. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem understanding."

Jan. 19, 2016