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Re: [Pharo-dev] Warning in Pharo 5

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 31/01/2016 18:33, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > probably this is the defaultâ¦ which it should not! > > Esteban > GTGenericStackDebugger alwaysOpenFullDebugger. -> false I still get the same thing than on the screen. -- Cyril

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Warning in Pharo 5

by Esteban Lorenzano

probably this is the defaultâ¦ which it should not! Esteban > On 31 Jan 2016, at 16:51, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Did you set GTGenericStackDebugger alwaysOpenFullDebugger: true ?? > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com <mailto:cyril.ferlicot@gmail.com>> wrote: > Is it me that did something wrong or in Pharo 5 the warnings open a > debugger instead of a Warning window with the explanation? > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/> > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/>

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Warning in Pharo 5

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 31/01/2016 16:51, Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : > Did you set GTGenericStackDebugger alwaysOpenFullDebugger: true ?? > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com I did it in the last Pharo 5 without loading any setting. -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Warning in Pharo 5

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Did you set GTGenericStackDebugger alwaysOpenFullDebugger: true ?? On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Cyril Ferlicot D. < cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Is it me that did something wrong or in Pharo 5 the warnings open a > debugger instead of a Warning window with the explanation? > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Jan. 31, 2016

Warning in Pharo 5

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Is it me that did something wrong or in Pharo 5 the warnings open a debugger instead of a Warning window with the explanation? -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Jan. 31, 2016

Thanks nicolai and the sprinter for fixing the selectorTable

by stepharo

Hi guys Thanks for this fix. I will start recording videos. Stef

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory

by Nicolai Hess

2016-01-31 13:46 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi, > > Hmm. I work with Spotter with preview enabled all the timeâ¦ but I do not > seem to get to the point in which I have to kill the styling process. How > do the signs look like (maybe I am not looking at the right thing)? > > Cheers, > Doru > Open Spotter Enable Preview search for EllipseMorph dive into class EllipseMorph dive into (all) instance methods scroll through the list of methods ~ 1/2 methods per second close spotter open Playground evaluate RubTextLine allInstances size "-> 140000" (yes 140 THOUSEND) again evaulate Smalltalk garbageCollect. RubTextLine allInstances size "if you are lucky this goes doewn to ~ < 10 instances but" repeat this (spotter with preview scroll through the list) maybe scroll faster Smalltalk garbageCollect. RubTextLine allInstances size "->1206704" and after every new evuation, the count of instances grows instead of shrink. And even with no further action, the amount of (system)memory used by pharo steadily grows. The only way to make this list go down again, open process browser and look for a process like "a Process in RunArray>>at:setRunOffsetAndValue:" and terminate this process. Smalltalk garbageCollect. RubTextLine allInstances size "-> 4" > > > > On Jan 31, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > 2016-01-25 20:10 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > 2016-01-20 23:23 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > 2016-01-20 19:18 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > > > > > 2016-01-20 14:47 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>: > > Tried it in the last latest image and if I execute before > #garbageCollect I just get 4 instances. > > > > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > > RubTextLine allInstances size "4" > > > > Now indeed if I browse the same class in nautilus I get a much smaller > number of RubTextLine instances > > > > > > I opened a bugreport > > 17437 > > Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory > > > > > > I tried to reproduce this behavior with GTInspector instead of Spotter, > for example, inspect: > > > > MethodFinder methods > > select on entry, -> another inspector pane shows up. Select th > "Source"-tab. Now > > scroll through the list of methods in the first inspector pane. For > every method the second pane updates the > > source tab with the code of the selected method. > > > > This generates many RubTextLine instances too. But not as many and I can > always clean them up with Smalltalk garbageCollect. > > So, the is something that spotter does differently. > > > > And even if Smalltalk garbageCollect would clean all instances, > > I don't think it is right, that scrolling through the method list (with > preview) should create hundred thousends of RubTextLine instances. > > There is just not enough code visible, we definitly don't need that > much. There is something wrong. > > > > Maybe these are all related > > > > 15153 Rubric mutability issue in RubTextComposer binary search > > 17284 Rubric SubscriptOutOfBounds error > > 17447 Playground and long number crashes with SubscriptOutOfBounds > > > > This may be an issue with text composer, called after styling and (I > think) concurrent processes access > > and modifiy the RubTextComposers #lines attribute. > > > > some other observations: > > > > RubTextComposer>>#needComposition compares prevText / newText > (attributes) runs > > ret := prevText runs ~= theText runs > > > > but both runs are often "different" even if they are for the same text: > > The text link classes are compared by identity instead of equality. And > > code like this > > RubShoutStyleDecorator>>replaceFrom: start to: stop with: aText > > self okToStyle > > ifFalse: [ ^ next replaceFrom: start to: stop with: aText ]. > > self > > disableDrawingWhile: [ > > aText addAttribute: self defaultFontChange. > "<<<<--------- THIS" > > text ifNil: [ text := self text ]. > > text replaceFrom: start to: stop with: (self styler format: > aText). > > > > will *always* add a trailing font change attribute, even if the prior > styled and new styled text would be actually the same (originate from the > same raw string)! > > > > there are multiple calls like > > aText addAttribute: self defaultFontChange. > > in other methods. > > > > GLMHighlighterTextStylerDecorator looks similiar with some minor changes > (for no obvious reason and of course totally undocumented). > > > > Debugging this code is a pain with all the doesNotUnderstand redirection > > Analysing this code is a pain with all the undocumented code, copy and > pasted to GLM > (GLMHighlighterTextRubEditingMode/GLMHighlighterTextStylerDecorator/GLMHighlighterTextParserStyler....) > > copy and pasted *from* old text classes (with no indication if this is > copied because it is used the same way or just DEAD code). > > > > And for real, does anyone work with spotter and preview enabled ? > > I can not work with it for more than some minutes without triggering > this allocation of awfull many RubTextLine instances. I have to > > manually kill the styling process. no one? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Open fresh image 50536 > > Open Spotter, > > enable preview (cmd+p) > > search for EllipseMorph > > dive in instance-methods > > scroll through the list one item after another. > > > > open playground > > evaluate > > RubTextLine allInstances size. "553896" > > > > > > case 17421 is related to this, but does not fully solves this. > > please review and comment on that fix, > > so we can integrate this soon. > > > > The problem sometimes remains even with this fix. The memory > > (instance count of RubTextLine) just grows in the background > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "Don't give to get. Just give." > > > > > > > >

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] 17502. Morph layoutProperties must not be nil by default

by David Allouche

> On 31 Jan 2016, at 13:38, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 31 Jan 2016, at 13:26, Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no <mailto:henrik.nergaard@uia.no>> wrote: >> >> LayoutProperties is an optional part of Morph using some type of defined layout (mostly used by the LayoutPolicy subclasses), this is though not the only way to do layout for a Morph and its submorphs; so not every morph needs it nor should have it. > > exactly :) > > nowâ¦ I understand this is because a design problem Morphic has since ever: it fails to differentiate between simple morphs (some kind of âgraphical atomsâ, as defined by Stef) and elaborated ones as Widgetsâ¦ everything coexists inside a single morph and now we need to pay the price :( Maybe that can be solved to everyone satisfaction. If layoutProperties could return a NullLayoutProperties instance (this class does not exist yet), then client code would not have to check for nil values, and Morph instances where layoutProperties is never called would suffer no penalty. I do not know if senders of layoutProperties expect to receive a mutable object. If that is the case, some additional cleverness might be needed. Maybe storing a reference to the morph in NullLayoutProperties, and using #become:. Generally, nil tests annoyances should be avoidable using the NullObject pattern.

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Hmm. I work with Spotter with preview enabled all the timeâ¦ but I do not seem to get to the point in which I have to kill the styling process. How do the signs look like (maybe I am not looking at the right thing)? Cheers, Doru > On Jan 31, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 2016-01-25 20:10 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2016-01-20 23:23 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2016-01-20 19:18 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2016-01-20 14:47 GMT+01:00 Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com>: > Tried it in the last latest image and if I execute before #garbageCollect I just get 4 instances. > > Smalltalk garbageCollect. > RubTextLine allInstances size "4" > > Now indeed if I browse the same class in nautilus I get a much smaller number of RubTextLine instances > > > I opened a bugreport > 17437 > Rubric: spotter with preview leaks some memory > > > I tried to reproduce this behavior with GTInspector instead of Spotter, for example, inspect: > > MethodFinder methods > select on entry, -> another inspector pane shows up. Select th "Source"-tab. Now > scroll through the list of methods in the first inspector pane. For every method the second pane updates the > source tab with the code of the selected method. > > This generates many RubTextLine instances too. But not as many and I can always clean them up with Smalltalk garbageCollect. > So, the is something that spotter does differently. > > And even if Smalltalk garbageCollect would clean all instances, > I don't think it is right, that scrolling through the method list (with preview) should create hundred thousends of RubTextLine instances. > There is just not enough code visible, we definitly don't need that much. There is something wrong. > > Maybe these are all related > > 15153 Rubric mutability issue in RubTextComposer binary search > 17284 Rubric SubscriptOutOfBounds error > 17447 Playground and long number crashes with SubscriptOutOfBounds > > This may be an issue with text composer, called after styling and (I think) concurrent processes access > and modifiy the RubTextComposers #lines attribute. > > some other observations: > > RubTextComposer>>#needComposition compares prevText / newText (attributes) runs > ret := prevText runs ~= theText runs > > but both runs are often "different" even if they are for the same text: > The text link classes are compared by identity instead of equality. And > code like this > RubShoutStyleDecorator>>replaceFrom: start to: stop with: aText > self okToStyle > ifFalse: [ ^ next replaceFrom: start to: stop with: aText ]. > self > disableDrawingWhile: [ > aText addAttribute: self defaultFontChange. "<<<<--------- THIS" > text ifNil: [ text := self text ]. > text replaceFrom: start to: stop with: (self styler format: aText). > > will *always* add a trailing font change attribute, even if the prior styled and new styled text would be actually the same (originate from the same raw string)! > > there are multiple calls like > aText addAttribute: self defaultFontChange. > in other methods. > > GLMHighlighterTextStylerDecorator looks similiar with some minor changes (for no obvious reason and of course totally undocumented). > > Debugging this code is a pain with all the doesNotUnderstand redirection > Analysing this code is a pain with all the undocumented code, copy and pasted to GLM (GLMHighlighterTextRubEditingMode/GLMHighlighterTextStylerDecorator/GLMHighlighterTextParserStyler....) > copy and pasted *from* old text classes (with no indication if this is copied because it is used the same way or just DEAD code). > > And for real, does anyone work with spotter and preview enabled ? > I can not work with it for more than some minutes without triggering this allocation of awfull many RubTextLine instances. I have to > manually kill the styling process. no one? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:32 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Open fresh image 50536 > Open Spotter, > enable preview (cmd+p) > search for EllipseMorph > dive in instance-methods > scroll through the list one item after another. > > open playground > evaluate > RubTextLine allInstances size. "553896" > > > case 17421 is related to this, but does not fully solves this. > please review and comment on that fix, > so we can integrate this soon. > > The problem sometimes remains even with this fix. The memory > (instance count of RubTextLine) just grows in the background -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "Don't give to get. Just give."

Jan. 31, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] 17502. Morph layoutProperties must not be nil by default

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 31 Jan 2016, at 13:26, Henrik Nergaard <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no> wrote: > > LayoutProperties is an optional part of Morph using some type of defined layout (mostly used by the LayoutPolicy subclasses), this is though not the only way to do layout for a Morph and its submorphs; so not every morph needs it nor should have it. exactly :) nowâ¦ I understand this is because a design problem Morphic has since ever: it fails to differentiate between simple morphs (some kind of âgraphical atomsâ, as defined by Stef) and elaborated ones as Widgetsâ¦ everything coexists inside a single morph and now we need to pay the price :( Esteban > > Best regards, > Henrik > > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Aliaksei Syrel > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:17 PM > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-dev] 17502. Morph layoutProperties must not be nil by default > > layoutProperties := NullLayoutProperties uniqueInstance > to share only one object > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 31 Jan 2016, at 12:43, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com <mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi. > > Wait, I do not like this... remember *anything* can be a Morph, not just a widget (points, "atoms bouncing", etc.). > > Could you explain it? Because you can't add point to morph for example. > > A morph can be a point. > If you define: > > Morph new > color: Color yellow; > extent: 1@1; > position: 10@10; > openInWorld. > > you will have a âpointâ in the world. Now imagine 10k of those (to run simulations or whatever). > Thatâs what I mean :) > > > 2016-01-31 12:21 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: > no, I donât :) > I commented there. > > On 30 Jan 2016, at 21:22, Aliaksei Syrel <alex.syrel(a)gmail.com <mailto:alex.syrel@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hello > > Do you agree? > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17502/Morph-layoutProperties-must-not-be-… <https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/17502/Morph-layoutProperties-must-not-be-…> > > Cheers, > Alex

Jan. 31, 2016