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Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMPresentation >> window looks strange

by Denis Kudriashov

And this is not only place. I saw it is common approach to get view from GL presentation. And it makes code analysis so hard. 2016-06-07 10:54 GMT+02:00 Guille Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > Hi! > > We were browsing with Steph users of #announce: and we arrived to the > following method: > > GLMPresentation >> window > self announce: (GLMWindowRequest new > action: [ :aWindow | ^ aWindow ]). > ^ nil > > And we could not stop noticing that, while the announcement, probably > originally meant to decouple the Presentation and the window, is now > coupling them in a non-clear way... I mean, the coupling is there, but is > now hidden in an announcement. > > Also, the usage of the non-local return makes the assumption that the > announcement will be executed on the same process... And that is at most > strange, but also looks buggy. > > Why is this method not a normal accessor? > > Guille > >

June 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

by Nicolai Hess

2016-06-07 13:57 GMT+02:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > > Am 07.06.2016 1:56 nachm. schrieb "Henrik Nergaard" < > henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no>: > > > > IIRC the shortcut is not changed, it still is meta+right(+shift). Only > the tooltip was changed to display the system specific key instead of âcmdâ > so for Windows/Linux this would be âctrlâ. > > No, it changed > In #40624, for example, it was cmd (alt-key on windows ) right/shift right > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Henrik > > > > > > > > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of > Nicolai Hess > > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:56 PM > > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > > Subject: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut > > > > > > > > Why did the shortcut for dive-in element/category changed from > > > > cmd+right > > > > cmd+shift+right > > > > to > > > > ctrl+right > > ctrl+shift+right > > > > I know there were some discussions about this and that the behavior > changed some > > > > time ago, but I don't know the rational behind this. > > > > thanks > > > > nicolai > > > > >

June 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

by Nicolai Hess

Am 07.06.2016 1:56 nachm. schrieb "Henrik Nergaard" <henrik.nergaard(a)uia.no >: > > IIRC the shortcut is not changed, it still is meta+right(+shift). Only the tooltip was changed to display the system specific key instead of âcmdâ so for Windows/Linux this would be âctrlâ. No, it changed > > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > > > From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Nicolai Hess > Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:56 PM > To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Subject: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut > > > > Why did the shortcut for dive-in element/category changed from > > cmd+right > > cmd+shift+right > > to > > ctrl+right > ctrl+shift+right > > I know there were some discussions about this and that the behavior changed some > > time ago, but I don't know the rational behind this. > > thanks > > nicolai > >

June 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

by Henrik Nergaard

IIRC the shortcut is not changed, it still is meta+right(+shift). Only the tooltip was changed to display the system specific key instead of âcmdâ so for Windows/Linux this would be âctrlâ. Best regards, Henrik From: Pharo-dev [mailto:pharo-dev-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Nicolai Hess Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:56 PM To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> Subject: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut Why did the shortcut for dive-in element/category changed from cmd+right cmd+shift+right to ctrl+right ctrl+shift+right I know there were some discussions about this and that the behavior changed some time ago, but I don't know the rational behind this. thanks nicolai

June 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

by Esteban Lorenzano

is most probably an error :S > On 07 Jun 2016, at 12:55, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Why did the shortcut for dive-in element/category changed from > cmd+right > cmd+shift+right > > to > > ctrl+right > ctrl+shift+right > > I know there were some discussions about this and that the behavior changed some > time ago, but I don't know the rational behind this. > > > thanks > nicolai > >

June 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Playground and text evaluation printing result default.

by Ben Coman

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:09 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > Le 5/6/16 Ã 23:00, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> >> Hi Stef, >> >> The quotes appear only when you add the result in the playground. > > > No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >> >> The typical use case for this is to keep track of several results. > > No need to explain I'm not idiot and I know it. >> >> In this situation you do not want to modify the code to not affect the >> highlighting and this is why it gets in a comment. > > This is fun because I never ever needed it. But this is probably what > everybody else is doing that since this is the default. > I just write simple code and tests. Indeed I'm not that smart. > > But your tools only embedd your scenario and let the other users forced to > adapt. > > Well you do not want but I do. > I spent my evening removing quotes while writing tests. > > What I hate with the GTTools is that you want to teach me how I should work. > Sorry but good tools do not do that. > Good tools empower the users and not constraint them. > > I work a lot faster when I do not have to remove the wonderful comments or > when I have to copy and paste. > This commenting is breaking the flow of efficient people. May be GT team do > not work write tests in the > debugger but I do most of the time and I'm forced by the environment to > remove quotes all over the places. >> >> If you want to copy the content without quotes, you can do: >> Cmd+p -> popup >> Cmd+c -> selects the current line and copies the text >> Esc >> Cmd+v > > Sorry but I do not want. > I just want to print and modify directly. > 7 keystrokes vs 2 >> >> Perhaps we can add another keybinding like Shift+Enter for adding the text >> without quotes. I just had a play with this, and another option might be <ctrl-enter>, since the <ctrl> key is still selection from doing <ctrl-P> so there is not much difference in hand movements between <enter> and <ctrl-enter> cheers -ben > > And why not the inverse. > By default printing is printing and if you want to do something else then > you have a special binding. > Now I'm upset with this general attitude (Oh I will teach how you can be a > nice user) that I will turn them off > or go and hack my own settings. Still I'm amazingly sad about this state of > affair. > All these story about GT is hurting me because of this attitude: we are so > smart and we thought a lot and we will teach you > how you should work... and at the end I the end-user has to adapt. > Look at the Spotter discussions: you looked for the graal and I was just > telling to you that I cannot find > simple information such as class refs! > > So what saddens me the most is that > - you pretend to have end-user trying your tools but I have impression > that they are not real power users > or this is yourself and it means that you are never exposed to other > people. > I can still not use Spotter because the way I put my hand on my > keyboard. So should change > - 1 my hands > - 2 my brain > - 3 my keyboard > - 4 do not use the tools? > - funnily enough if I would not have complain aggressively then it looks > like we would have the same than before. > > Your flow is not mine and I go faster my way but your tools force me to get > slow. > I do not have the time to produce a video but I would even if it would give > a bad press to Pharo. > I will do a presentation in the rmod team. Because people do not watch > themselves why acting. > > Good tools empower the users not constraint them. > > GTTools feel often like an overengineer guitar that would have hampered > Jimmy Hendrix to do crazy solos. > >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 10:20 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> I would like to know if there is a setting to remove the "" when printing >>> the result of an expression. >>> >>> I know that playground has been thought to help me, but today I watched >>> myself removing the comments >>> >>> code so often that I would like to get a setting because such wrapping of >>> results is really boring for me. >>> >>> I'm spending my time removing them and I start to wonder why they are any >>> useful. >>> >>> I would help me to write fast tests for example in the debugger. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.feenk.com >> >> "What we can governs what we wish." >> >> >> >> >> >> > >

June 7, 2016

GT-Spotter dive in shortcut

by Nicolai Hess

Why did the shortcut for dive-in element/category changed from cmd+right cmd+shift+right to ctrl+right ctrl+shift+right I know there were some discussions about this and that the behavior changed some time ago, but I don't know the rational behind this. thanks nicolai

June 7, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/60067 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

June 7, 2016

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 092dbb: 60067

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 092dbb81541495f197593e5877cd011ea655c6c1 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/092dbb81541495f197593e58… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2016-06-07 (Tue, 07 Jun 2016) Changed paths: M ConfigurationOfGTEventRecorder.package/ConfigurationOfGTEventRecorder.class/instance/symbolic versions/stable_.st A ConfigurationOfGTEventRecorder.package/ConfigurationOfGTEventRecorder.class/instance/versions/version017_.st M ConfigurationOfGTInspectorCore.package/ConfigurationOfGTInspectorCore.class/instance/versions/version313_.st M ConfigurationOfGTSpotter.package/ConfigurationOfGTSpotter.class/instance/versions/version211_.st M ConfigurationOfGlamourCore.package/ConfigurationOfGlamourCore.class/instance/baselines/baseline33_.st M ConfigurationOfGlamourCore.package/ConfigurationOfGlamourCore.class/instance/symbolic versions/stable_.st A ConfigurationOfGlamourCore.package/ConfigurationOfGlamourCore.class/instance/versions/version416_.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60066.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - scripts/script60067.st R ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60066.st A ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/pharo - updates/update60067.st M ScriptLoader60.package/ScriptLoader.class/instance/public/commentForCurrentUpdate.st Log Message: ----------- 60067 18403 ConfigurationOfGTInspectorCore needs update versions of dependencies https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18403 18423 Fix Glamour-Tests-Core extensions capitalization https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18423 18402 ConfigurationOfGTSpotter needs update versions of dependencies https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/18402 http://files.pharo.org/image/60/60067.zip

June 7, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Privacy sendDiagnosticsAndUsageData should be ternary, not binary

by Andrei Chis

Hi Peter, On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Peter Uhnak <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Privacy>>sendDiagnosticsAndUsageData should be ternary, not binary. > > Because right now if I refuse sending the data I will be asked again every > single time. > Indeed right now, at least in Spotter, the notification is shown every time it is opened in a new image, even if the setting was explicitly set. It was done like this as a reminder, especially if you have the setting set to true. > > So the proper behavior (imho) should be: > > ask Privacy for the settingâ¦ if the setting is not defined, then show a > popup. > If the setting is defined then respect it and do not show another popup. > The current behaviour with showing the notification in Spotter and Nautilus should be a temporary one. Ideally we just need a single uniform way of showing this notification plus the option to control and see the data that each tool wants to record at a fined-grained level. > > Also it would be nice to know what happens with the data. > We store it on a server and use it for various analyses. It is also publicly available: GTEventTool default download. > I mean my projects are open source so "sendSourceCode" shouldn't be an > issueâ¦ but what you can possibly learn from it? > Why not just analyze the content of SmalltalkHub/GitHub? > Because if you have the setting enabled it does not always work to map different actions that with the code that you are working on. Cheers, Andrei > > Peter > >

June 7, 2016