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Re: [Pharo-dev] Shortcuts conflicts

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Could you please try to reproduce this in any of the images publicly available (e.g., Moose, Pharo)? Cheers, Doru > On Aug 29, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 29/08/2016 15:40, Nicolai Hess wrote: >> I don't even know how you get this menu. >> What pane is selected when you open this context menu? >> > > I just did a right click on the source pane of the debugger > > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shortcuts conflicts

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 29/08/2016 16:14, Peter UhnÃ¡k wrote: > Make sure you are not getting screwed by startup scripts (since you are > already overriding the debugger shortcuts). > > Peter > It was the problem :( I found it with the help of Andrei and he helped me to improve my script. Sorry for the false alarm! -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shortcuts conflicts

by Peter UhnÃ¡k

Make sure you are not getting screwed by startup scripts (since you are already overriding the debugger shortcuts). Peter On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I do not have those shortcuts in my image. See below a picture of a Pharo > 6.0 image. Could you tell me where you see this? > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Aug 29, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque < > cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am the only one to find this screen weird? > > https://puu.sh/qSyo9/baa12ac902.png > > It's pretty annoying when I am debugging and that instead of an > inspector I get the inheritanceâ¦ > Or when I change a method in the debugger, I want to paste a sentence (I > know, copy/paste are evil but sometimes they can be useful) and I get > the versions windowâ¦ > > Could we find a way to improve that? :) > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "What we can governs what we wish." > > > > >

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shortcuts conflicts

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I do not have those shortcuts in my image. See below a picture of a Pharo 6.0 image. Could you tell me where you see this? Cheers, Doru > On Aug 29, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am the only one to find this screen weird? > > https://puu.sh/qSyo9/baa12ac902.png > > It's pretty annoying when I am debugging and that instead of an > inspector I get the inheritanceâ¦ > Or when I change a method in the debugger, I want to paste a sentence (I > know, copy/paste are evil but sometimes they can be useful) and I get > the versions windowâ¦ > > Could we find a way to improve that? :) > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "What we can governs what we wish."

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shortcuts conflicts

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

On 29/08/2016 15:40, Nicolai Hess wrote: > I don't even know how you get this menu. > What pane is selected when you open this context menu? > I just did a right click on the source pane of the debugger -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Shortcuts conflicts

by Nicolai Hess

2016-08-29 15:28 GMT+02:00 Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque < cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I am the only one to find this screen weird? > > https://puu.sh/qSyo9/baa12ac902.png > > It's pretty annoying when I am debugging and that instead of an > inspector I get the inheritanceâ¦ > Or when I change a method in the debugger, I want to paste a sentence (I > know, copy/paste are evil but sometimes they can be useful) and I get > the versions windowâ¦ > > Could we find a way to improve that? :) > I don't even know how you get this menu. What pane is selected when you open this context menu? > -- > Cyril Ferlicot > > http://www.synectique.eu > > 165 Avenue Bretagne > Lille 59000 France > >

Aug. 29, 2016

Shortcuts conflicts

by Cyril Ferlicot Delbecque

Hi, I am the only one to find this screen weird? https://puu.sh/qSyo9/baa12ac902.png It's pretty annoying when I am debugging and that instead of an inspector I get the inheritanceâ¦ Or when I change a method in the debugger, I want to paste a sentence (I know, copy/paste are evil but sometimes they can be useful) and I get the versions windowâ¦ Could we find a way to improve that? :) -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 165 Avenue Bretagne Lille 59000 France

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] IceBerg and push for projects vs packages

by Serge Stinckwich

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 29 Aug 2016, at 14:04, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Nicolas Passerini >> <npasserini(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Well, I am not sure if this has to do with Iceberg itself, because Iceberg >>> does nothing with dependencies. >>> >>> But I am not sure that a ConfigurationOfXXX really has information of only >>> one package. Normally you will have only one configuration for each project, >>> am I wrong? >>> Then the configuration specifies (among other stuff) dependencies between >>> the parts (packages) of your project... I think this is right. >>> If you depend in another project, then you should not depend in specific >>> packages but in another configuration. >> >> With the Iceberg tool, you can load or unload packages. >> How it will works if the dependencies are not loaded before ? > > AFAIK, this is not iceberg concernâ¦ this is a work for metacello (or cargo). Yes you are right, but when you load a package from Iceberg, the dependencies should be loaded at the same time I guess. -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] IceBerg and push for projects vs packages

by Esteban Lorenzano

> On 29 Aug 2016, at 14:04, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Nicolas Passerini > <npasserini(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Well, I am not sure if this has to do with Iceberg itself, because Iceberg >> does nothing with dependencies. >> >> But I am not sure that a ConfigurationOfXXX really has information of only >> one package. Normally you will have only one configuration for each project, >> am I wrong? >> Then the configuration specifies (among other stuff) dependencies between >> the parts (packages) of your project... I think this is right. >> If you depend in another project, then you should not depend in specific >> packages but in another configuration. > > With the Iceberg tool, you can load or unload packages. > How it will works if the dependencies are not loaded before ? AFAIK, this is not iceberg concernâ¦ this is a work for metacello (or cargo). Esteban > >> The problem here is that we are (at least Iceberg is) assuming a correlation >> between project and repository, because in fact Iceberg handles >> repositories. If a project would be spawn in several repositories, at least >> now Iceberg can't do anything about it, it will treat them as independent >> "projects". I am not sure about changing this logic in the near future, and >> also we should think if that is not a Cargo/Metacello feature. > > I never see a project spawn on many repo. I guess you can safely say > that 1 project = 1 repo. > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ >

Aug. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] IceBerg and push for projects vs packages

by Serge Stinckwich

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Nicolas Passerini <npasserini(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well, I am not sure if this has to do with Iceberg itself, because Iceberg > does nothing with dependencies. > > But I am not sure that a ConfigurationOfXXX really has information of only > one package. Normally you will have only one configuration for each project, > am I wrong? > Then the configuration specifies (among other stuff) dependencies between > the parts (packages) of your project... I think this is right. > If you depend in another project, then you should not depend in specific > packages but in another configuration. With the Iceberg tool, you can load or unload packages. How it will works if the dependencies are not loaded before ? > The problem here is that we are (at least Iceberg is) assuming a correlation > between project and repository, because in fact Iceberg handles > repositories. If a project would be spawn in several repositories, at least > now Iceberg can't do anything about it, it will treat them as independent > "projects". I am not sure about changing this logic in the near future, and > also we should think if that is not a Cargo/Metacello feature. I never see a project spawn on many repo. I guess you can safely say that 1 project = 1 repo. -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

Aug. 29, 2016