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Re: [Pharo-dev] Getting Pharo to Mars?

by philippe.back＠highoctane.be

I am already working in an ESA oroject. Le 30 sept. 2016 00:05, "Richard Sargent" < richard.sargent(a)gemtalksystems.com> a Ã©crit : > ClÃ©ment Bera-4 wrote > > The first thing is to get naturalised as a US citizen. > > I think you would be much further ahead to find someone who works for the > ESA. > (Or maybe approach the ESA itself directly!) > > > > > It seems that the space market has been opened to private companies in > the > > US, but they're still quite skeptical about sharing knowledge with non > > american citizens. If you want to work with Space X, you have either to > be > > an american citizen or have something they really really really want to > > convince them to work with you (and even so, it's likely your native > > country matters). > > > > Quoting their website: > > > > *To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, > > applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., > > protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to > > obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. > > Learn > > more about ITAR here.* > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:27 AM, > > > phil@ > > > < > > > phil@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > >> Given > >> > >> http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/spacexs-big-fking-rocket-the- > full-story.html > >> > >> we should find some way to get Pharo into it somehow. > >> > >> Anyone having ideas on how to do that? > >> > >> Phil > >> > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Getting-Pharo-to-Mars- > tp4917390p4917478.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

Sept. 30, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Getting Pharo to Mars?

by Richard Sargent

ClÃ©ment Bera-4 wrote > The first thing is to get naturalised as a US citizen. I think you would be much further ahead to find someone who works for the ESA. (Or maybe approach the ESA itself directly!) > It seems that the space market has been opened to private companies in the > US, but they're still quite skeptical about sharing knowledge with non > american citizens. If you want to work with Space X, you have either to be > an american citizen or have something they really really really want to > convince them to work with you (and even so, it's likely your native > country matters). > > Quoting their website: > > *To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, > applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., > protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to > obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. > Learn > more about ITAR here.* > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:27 AM, > phil@ > < > phil@ > > > wrote: > >> Given >> >> http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/spacexs-big-fking-rocket-the-full-story.html >> >> we should find some way to get Pharo into it somehow. >> >> Anyone having ideas on how to do that? >> >> Phil >> -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Getting-Pharo-to-Mars-tp4917390p4917478.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Getting Pharo to Mars?

by phil＠highoctane.be

I do not want to go to Mars, just wanting to get Pharo in the vehicle somehow. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:16 AM, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The first thing is to get naturalised as a US citizen. > > It seems that the space market has been opened to private companies in the > US, but they're still quite skeptical about sharing knowledge with non > american citizens. If you want to work with Space X, you have either to be > an american citizen or have something they really really really want to > convince them to work with you (and even so, it's likely your native > country matters). > > Quoting their website: > > *To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, > applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., > protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to > obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn > more about ITAR here.* > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:27 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > >> Given >> >> http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/spacexs-big-fking-rocket-the-f >> ull-story.html >> >> we should find some way to get Pharo into it somehow. >> >> Anyone having ideas on how to do that? >> >> Phil >> > >

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Getting Pharo to Mars?

by Dimitris Chloupis

Its highly unlikely that SpaceX will be the only one to go to Mars , as its curently planned is it will take 7+ years best case scenario to send first humans to Mars. Thats plenty of time for other USA and non USA companies to join in. Plus there is no prediction where technology will be in a decade. Include to this that US is 1/4th of the global economy this story has just started to unveil. Include also the fact that our ever growing population is unstoppable, this alone is a huge motivating factor because the alternative is a humanitarian , ecological and economy crisis human race has ever experienced. Pharo will get to Mars since laptops will get to Mars eventually :) There is no need to find a way to get it there we already have the technology in place, its just a matter of improving it. On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:17 AM ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The first thing is to get naturalised as a US citizen. > > It seems that the space market has been opened to private companies in the > US, but they're still quite skeptical about sharing knowledge with non > american citizens. If you want to work with Space X, you have either to be > an american citizen or have something they really really really want to > convince them to work with you (and even so, it's likely your native > country matters). > > Quoting their website: > > *To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, > applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., > protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to > obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn > more about ITAR here.* > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:27 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > >> Given >> >> http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/spacexs-big-fking-rocket-the-full-story.html >> >> we should find some way to get Pharo into it somehow. >> >> Anyone having ideas on how to do that? >> >> Phil >> > >

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Getting Pharo to Mars?

by ClÃ©ment Bera

The first thing is to get naturalised as a US citizen. It seems that the space market has been opened to private companies in the US, but they're still quite skeptical about sharing knowledge with non american citizens. If you want to work with Space X, you have either to be an american citizen or have something they really really really want to convince them to work with you (and even so, it's likely your native country matters). Quoting their website: *To conform to U.S. Government space technology export regulations, applicant must be a U.S. citizen, lawful permanent resident of the U.S., protected individual as defined by 8 U.S.C. 1324b(a)(3), or eligible to obtain the required authorizations from the U.S. Department of State. Learn more about ITAR here.* On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 6:27 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Given > > http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/spacexs-big-fking-rocket-the-full-story.html > > we should find some way to get Pharo into it somehow. > > Anyone having ideas on how to do that? > > Phil >

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] stdev

by stepharo

Do not worry this is so complex to define that I will define my own in my own class for myself. Like that I will be able to use the names I want for my projects. You see in Rectangle we have a protocol named fmp and I was sad to see it. I would have preferred wtf Stef Le 29/9/16 Ã 02:52, Ben Coman a Ã©crit : > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:50 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> >> is stdev a typical name for standardDeviation? >> >> Because I found it sad to have mean and stdev instead of mean and >> standardDeviation. > stdev() or std() seems fairly typical. Doesn't mean we can't be > different. One thing though is that the typical function is what > newcomers would search on, which makes me consider it could be useful > in Spotter to have a mapping from functions in other languages to > Pharo methods. So a user would type stdev and the top hit would be > standardDeviation. > > MathCAD: stdev() > http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~Eyler/phys258/P/stats.pdf > > Excel: stdev() > http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Standard-Deviation-in-Excel > > Python 3.4: stdev() > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15389768/standard-deviation-of-a-list > > NumPy: std() > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15389768/standard-deviation-of-a-list > > Mathworks: std() > https://au.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/std.html?s_tid=gn_loc_drop > > SAS: std() > http://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2012/03/05/functions-to-know-the-mean-var-… > > cheers -ben > >

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] stdev

by stepharo

Le 28/9/16 Ã 21:42, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation says > > In statistics, the standard deviation (SD, also represented by the Greek letter sigma Ï or the Latin letter s) is a measure that is used to quantify the amount of variation or dispersion of a set of data values. > > But technically, our #stdev is only one of several variants, namely 'corrected sample standard deviation' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#Corrected_sample_standard_…] > > But you probably searched for it and did not find it since it was abbreviated ... indeed and we have a funky abbreviation. I started an interesting book on DSP for dummies (engineers like me) and I would like to see what we can do. www.dspguide.com. I like that he does not focus on math for their correctness. Stef > >> On 28 Sep 2016, at 20:29, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >> No this is my initials. I should have copyrighted them so may be we could have decent names. >> >> Le 28/9/16 Ã 21:26, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : >>> In R, it is even shorter: >>> >>> https://stat.ethz.ch/R-manual/R-devel/library/stats/html/sd.html >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 7:50 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> >>> is stdev a typical name for standardDeviation? >>> >>> Because I found it sad to have mean and stdev instead of mean and standardDeviation. >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> > >

Sept. 29, 2016

Getting Pharo to Mars?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Given http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/09/spacexs-big-fking-rocket-the-full-story.html we should find some way to get Pharo into it somehow. Anyone having ideas on how to do that? Phil

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] stdev

by Ben Coman

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 1:50 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > Hi guys > > > is stdev a typical name for standardDeviation? > > Because I found it sad to have mean and stdev instead of mean and > standardDeviation. stdev() or std() seems fairly typical. Doesn't mean we can't be different. One thing though is that the typical function is what newcomers would search on, which makes me consider it could be useful in Spotter to have a mapping from functions in other languages to Pharo methods. So a user would type stdev and the top hit would be standardDeviation. MathCAD: stdev() http://www.phys.uconn.edu/~Eyler/phys258/P/stats.pdf Excel: stdev() http://www.wikihow.com/Calculate-Standard-Deviation-in-Excel Python 3.4: stdev() http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15389768/standard-deviation-of-a-list NumPy: std() http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15389768/standard-deviation-of-a-list Mathworks: std() https://au.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/std.html?s_tid=gn_loc_drop SAS: std() http://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2012/03/05/functions-to-know-the-mean-var-… cheers -ben

Sept. 29, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] stdev

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation says In statistics, the standard deviation (SD, also represented by the Greek letter sigma Ï or the Latin letter s) is a measure that is used to quantify the amount of variation or dispersion of a set of data values. But technically, our #stdev is only one of several variants, namely 'corrected sample standard deviation' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation#Corrected_sample_standard_…] But you probably searched for it and did not find it since it was abbreviated ... > On 28 Sep 2016, at 20:29, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: > > No this is my initials. I should have copyrighted them so may be we could have decent names. > > Le 28/9/16 Ã 21:26, phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : >> In R, it is even shorter: >> >> https://stat.ethz.ch/R-manual/R-devel/library/stats/html/sd.html >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 7:50 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> >> is stdev a typical name for standardDeviation? >> >> Because I found it sad to have mean and stdev instead of mean and standardDeviation. >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >

Sept. 28, 2016