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Re: [Pharo-dev] Q: any work around ROS has been done on Pharo?

by stepharong

Hi igor Pharos is developed at Ecole des Mines de Douai by Noury, Luc and Santiago was working on it during 1,5 years. Noury Bouraqadi <noury.bouraqadi(a)mines-douai.fr> Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> Stef On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 21:38:29 +0100, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > i wonder, are there any projects to run/connect Pharo with ROS(robot > operating system) > i'm interested in any bits, starting from basic ones, > since i'm gonna to work with it in closest future, so would be nice to > use Pharo > & stand on a shoulders of others, of course, to learn it fester and > understand it better. > > --Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you think VersionBrowser is counterintuitive?

by stepharong

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 16:04:45 +0100, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 23/12/2016 Ã 14:27, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©crit : >> Hi. >> >> I always catch myself that I am completely lost in method versions (and >> feel pain :)). >> There is no clue what at the left pane and what at the right pane. > > Agreed. > > I often revert to a wrong version... me too :) > >> Now I realize that VersionBrowser is trying to compare selected version >> versus next version (according to list order). >> So right pane shows selected version and left pane shows next one. >> For me all of these is super non intuitive but maybe it is only my >> problem. So here I want to ask about your experience. Do you feel same? >> >> I would prefer if VersionBrowser will always compare selected version >> versus current version in image with actual image version on the left >> and selected version on the right. > > Any solution which doesn't require me to guess which pane relate to what > I want to revert to has my vote. > > In short, what you describe replaces a non-obvious, arbitrary pane > allocation by another one... maybe just more familiar to you. > >> What you think? > > That you are suggesting a solution which is maybe a bit more intuitive > for you, but not that intuitive. > > Regards, > > Thierry > >> Best regards, >> Denis > > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you think VersionBrowser is counterintuitive?

by Thierry Goubier

Le 23/12/2016 Ã 14:27, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©crit : > Hi. > > I always catch myself that I am completely lost in method versions (and > feel pain :)). > There is no clue what at the left pane and what at the right pane. Agreed. I often revert to a wrong version... > Now I realize that VersionBrowser is trying to compare selected version > versus next version (according to list order). > So right pane shows selected version and left pane shows next one. > For me all of these is super non intuitive but maybe it is only my > problem. So here I want to ask about your experience. Do you feel same? > > I would prefer if VersionBrowser will always compare selected version > versus current version in image with actual image version on the left > and selected version on the right. Any solution which doesn't require me to guess which pane relate to what I want to revert to has my vote. In short, what you describe replaces a non-obvious, arbitrary pane allocation by another one... maybe just more familiar to you. > What you think? That you are suggesting a solution which is maybe a bit more intuitive for you, but not that intuitive. Regards, Thierry > Best regards, > Denis

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you think VersionBrowser is counterintuitive?

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-23 14:34 GMT+01:00 Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)gmail.com>: > But you can always select a version an choose > compare with current > from the context menu. > Ok. Does not know about it :). Now I tried it and it not helps me a lot. It opens new window without any way to revert changes (or others) and without any clue who is who (no label what is left and what is right) And when I closed it I was again lost in versions list. Also there is menu item "Compare to version" with same no clue window. Really this menu is useless. VersionBrowser should just also multi selection to show difference between selected versions. And by default it should compare to current one.

Dec. 23, 2016

[ANN] Pharo Sprint First half 2017

by Marcus Denker

Hi, As this year, there will be again âPharo Sprintsâ next year. At these dates we meet (virtual or real) to work on boring (or complex) issues together: Jan 27 Mar 3 Mar 31 Apr 28 May 26 Jun 30 Local sprints: - University of Chile (DCC). Not January, but likely the other dates - Inria Lille: All - Remote: All. We will try to improve remote sprint experience next year! - The sprints will be added to https://association.pharo.org/events Marcus

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you think VersionBrowser is counterintuitive?

by Nicolai Hess

Am 23.12.2016 2:28 nachm. schrieb "Denis Kudriashov" <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: Hi. I always catch myself that I am completely lost in method versions (and feel pain :)). There is no clue what at the left pane and what at the right pane. Now I realize that VersionBrowser is trying to compare selected version versus next version (according to list order). So right pane shows selected version and left pane shows next one. For me all of these is super non intuitive but maybe it is only my problem. So here I want to ask about your experience. Do you feel same? I would prefer if VersionBrowser will always compare selected version versus current version in image with actual image version on the left and selected version on the right. What you think? Best regards, Denis But you can always select a version an choose compare with current from the context menu.

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] Do you think VersionBrowser is counterintuitive?

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-23 14:27 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > I would prefer if VersionBrowser will always compare selected version > versus current version in image with actual image version on the left and > selected version on the right. > Also I think it is better to not show current method in versions list. I am very often revert it instead of real previous version. It's super annoying.

Dec. 23, 2016

Do you think VersionBrowser is counterintuitive?

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi. I always catch myself that I am completely lost in method versions (and feel pain :)). There is no clue what at the left pane and what at the right pane. Now I realize that VersionBrowser is trying to compare selected version versus next version (according to list order). So right pane shows selected version and left pane shows next one. For me all of these is super non intuitive but maybe it is only my problem. So here I want to ask about your experience. Do you feel same? I would prefer if VersionBrowser will always compare selected version versus current version in image with actual image version on the left and selected version on the right. What you think? Best regards, Denis

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and retina displays in 2016?

by Tim Mackinnon

Thanks for the update - that is exciting and gives me some hope. What do we need to do to help bloc advance at pace? Tim Sent from my iPhone > On 23 Dec 2016, at 01:22, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > itâs coming, but it needs some time: https://twitter.com/aliakseisyrel/status/812065956856025088 > >> On 1 Dec 2016, at 14:44, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: >> >> To give people a better view of this - here is the Pharo image next to the mail client (Iâm not sure if the screen captures really do it justice as when you scale them down in a picture everything looks fine - however if I zoom into that bottom corner in a second image it might make it more obvious). >> >> I think this has been a problem brewing for a while, but if most contributors donât have retina screens (although they are getting much more common now) then I guess it goes unnoticed. I suspect in the next few years, as people start replacing machines - it will gain more visibility. >> >> I find it quite distracting when switching from mail or other apps to Pharo and then you notice the fuzziness. Maybe if you spend a few hours in the code you might adjust. >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> The following is the bottom corner zoom in to show what I mean by fuzzy: >> >> >> <PastedGraphic-2.png> >>> On 30 Nov 2016, at 23:53, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >>> >>>> On 30/11/16 20:32, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>>> Maybe, but the thing is, you are looking at it half size, in some >>>> sense, when it is on a Retina display. Anyway, to me, it is OK, but >>>> my eyes are no longer what they used to be. I can imagine young >>>> people being more sensitive to it. >>> >>> Nah, it just is blurry. I've played a bit with krono's vm, and it is >>> a very noticable difference. Much better readable and less tiring. >>> And you mostly only notice when trying to go back from HiDPI to low. >>> >>> Stephan >

Dec. 23, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo 5 and retina displays in 2016?

by Stephan Eggermont

On 23/12/16 01:22, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote: > itâs coming, but it needs some > time: https://twitter.com/aliakseisyrel/status/812065956856025088 That is nice, and a different solution. The needed changes were very limited, stability problems might have been resulting from gc during bitblit. Stephan

Dec. 23, 2016