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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 27/12/2016 Ã 23:45, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©crit : > It would be super cool if some of clever guys could just design look of > browser in pictures. And the rest will be just technical job I'm not a "pro" of ux but at Synectique I make the css of our web tools. So I can try to make some mockup of widgets when I will have some time but I will not have the time to implements them in Pharo/Morph. Tomorrow I will send a screen of the nested list we made at Synectique. It's a responsive tree with icons at the right and/or left. And also I know the priority is the features. I just make some notes of the main UI problems because it's something that should not be forgotten after the features implementation :) And I am well aware that it's hard to find time to fix design. (Tests, doc, design, promo, bug correction, speed upâ¦ Too much things to do after making a feature :D) -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Dec. 28, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-27 23:11 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > On the pure design side, two things that hits my eyes are the toggle >> buttons and the test icon on the package list. >> >> The toggle buttons looks reallyâ¦ "Old". > > > I agree Cyril. Thank's for feedback. > > Definitely current UI design is not the end. It is just the start, the > simple way how to arrange current browser features. > > Now toolbar looks bad but it provides desired features which allow to be > more effective than with Nautilus. > That's idea: implement functions and then start to think about design. But > not alone. I am not good in design and I hope together we could provide > good look&feel for desired features. > Now what you see in Calypso is my wishes which I want to be covered by > design. > > So as I said: let's make browser great again :). > It would be super cool if some of clever guys could just design look of browser in pictures. And the rest will be just technical job

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by stepharong

I love the name. :) and I want to thank Alain for not complaining that we stole the name of one of his projects :) It deserves a little explanation..... Nautilus was a submarine of Jules Verne. Calypso is the boat of commandant Cousteau. Now calypso is more than a browser: it is a model and really nice because without case and tests everywhere. Stef

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-27 22:01 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com>: > The tests icons should be align on the right of the list I think. But > this should be improve directly on the widget. Right icons aligned and > if the text is too long, cut it, add 'â¦' and show it on the hoover. Or > if you don't want to cut the text and add a scrollbar, the icons should > be align to the left. > Nice idea. Now every cell in table has definitionMorph before name and extra morphs after it. Plugins decide how to fill and decorate them. And currently table is single column. I think it would be nice to put all this morphs in separate columns which will provide good alignment.

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by stepharong

Thanks denis. :) Now let us make sure that we can deprecated our old friend nautilus :) Stef > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called > Calypso. > It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for > remote scenario.But as result it leads to more important goal: provide > clean implementation of browser which people could understand and evolve. > > Calypso supports most features from Nautilus but also miss many of them. > And there are many not nicely looking parts of UI which require more > work. > But in same time Calypso provides many new cool features with clean > implementation underhood. I put many things from other smalltalks and > old browsers which I always miss. > > I release Calypso in the state where I finish most design decisions > which I think important for project evolution. > Of course there are a lot of things to do and improve. But browser is > fully working. And now it is important to community to participate in > project and make browser great again :). We need escape >from Nautilus > pasta world. > Please report any ideas/bugs on github page > https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/issues. I already fill it with my > wishes. > > Next step I will work on documentation/class comments and I will publish > couple of posts about Calypso internals. > > Read more details on my blog. It includes pictures, videos and loading > script. > > Best regards, > Denis -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by Denis Kudriashov

2016-12-27 22:01 GMT+01:00 Cyril Ferlicot D. <cyril.ferlicot(a)gmail.com>: > > This is really cool :) > > On the pure design side, two things that hits my eyes are the toggle > buttons and the test icon on the package list. > > The toggle buttons looks reallyâ¦ "Old". I agree Cyril. Thank's for feedback. Definitely current UI design is not the end. It is just the start, the simple way how to arrange current browser features. Now toolbar looks bad but it provides desired features which allow to be more effective than with Nautilus. That's idea: implement functions and then start to think about design. But not alone. I am not good in design and I hope together we could provide good look&feel for desired features. Now what you see in Calypso is my wishes which I want to be covered by design. So as I said: let's make browser great again :).

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by Cyril Ferlicot D.

Le 27/12/2016 Ã 17:12, Denis Kudriashov a Ã©crit : > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called > Calypso. > It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for > remote scenario. > But as result it leads to more important goal: provide clean > implementation of browser which people could understand and evolve. > > Calypso supports most features from Nautilus but also miss many of them. > And there are many not nicely looking parts of UI which require more work. > But in same time Calypso provides many new cool features with clean > implementation underhood. I put many things from other smalltalks and > old browsers which I always miss. > > I release Calypso in the state where I finish most design decisions > which I think important for project evolution. > Of course there are a lot of things to do and improve. But browser is > fully working. And now it is important to community to participate in > project and make browser great again :). We need escape from Nautilus > pasta world. > Please report any ideas/bugs on github page > https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/issues. I already fill it with my > wishes. > > Next step I will work on documentation/class comments and I will publish > couple of posts about Calypso internals. > > Read more details on my blog > <http://dionisiydk.blogspot.fr/2016/12/calypso-new-system-browser-for-pharo.…>. > It includes pictures, videos and loading script. > > Best regards, > Denis This is really cool :) On the pure design side, two things that hits my eyes are the toggle buttons and the test icon on the package list. The toggle buttons looks reallyâ¦ "Old". The tests icons should be align on the right of the list I think. But this should be improve directly on the widget. Right icons aligned and if the text is too long, cut it, add 'â¦' and show it on the hoover. Or if you don't want to cut the text and add a scrollbar, the icons should be align to the left. I did not had the time to try it now but I look forward to it :) Thanks Denis! -- Cyril Ferlicot http://www.synectique.eu 2 rue Jacques PrÃ©vert 01, 59650 Villeneuve d'ascq France

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Yes, very cool, great work! > On 27 Dec 2016, at 19:06, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > Ah, this XMas present! > > Thx Denis. > > Phil > > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called Calypso. > It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for remote scenario. > But as result it leads to more important goal: provide clean implementation of browser which people could understand and evolve. > > Calypso supports most features from Nautilus but also miss many of them. And there are many not nicely looking parts of UI which require more work. > But in same time Calypso provides many new cool features with clean implementation underhood. I put many things from other smalltalks and old browsers which I always miss. > > I release Calypso in the state where I finish most design decisions which I think important for project evolution. > Of course there are a lot of things to do and improve. But browser is fully working. And now it is important to community to participate in project and make browser great again :). We need escape from Nautilus pasta world. > Please report any ideas/bugs on github page https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/issues. I already fill it with my wishes. > > Next step I will work on documentation/class comments and I will publish couple of posts about Calypso internals. > > Read more details on my blog. It includes pictures, videos and loading script. > > Best regards, > Denis >

Dec. 27, 2016

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Ann] Calypso system browser

by phil＠highoctane.be

Ah, this XMas present! Thx Denis. Phil On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called > Calypso. > It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for > remote scenario. > But as result it leads to more important goal: provide clean > implementation of browser which people could understand and evolve. > > Calypso supports most features from Nautilus but also miss many of them. > And there are many not nicely looking parts of UI which require more work. > But in same time Calypso provides many new cool features with clean > implementation underhood. I put many things from other smalltalks and old > browsers which I always miss. > > I release Calypso in the state where I finish most design decisions which > I think important for project evolution. > Of course there are a lot of things to do and improve. But browser is > fully working. And now it is important to community to participate in > project and make browser great again :). We need escape from Nautilus pasta > world. > Please report any ideas/bugs on github page https://github.com/dionisiydk/ > Calypso/issues. I already fill it with my wishes. > > Next step I will work on documentation/class comments and I will publish > couple of posts about Calypso internals. > > Read more details on my blog > <http://dionisiydk.blogspot.fr/2016/12/calypso-new-system-browser-for-pharo.…>. > It includes pictures, videos and loading script. > > Best regards, > Denis >

Dec. 27, 2016

[Ann] Calypso system browser

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi I am glad announce first initial version of new system browser called Calypso. It is implemented from scratch with idea to build model suitable for remote scenario. But as result it leads to more important goal: provide clean implementation of browser which people could understand and evolve. Calypso supports most features from Nautilus but also miss many of them. And there are many not nicely looking parts of UI which require more work. But in same time Calypso provides many new cool features with clean implementation underhood. I put many things from other smalltalks and old browsers which I always miss. I release Calypso in the state where I finish most design decisions which I think important for project evolution. Of course there are a lot of things to do and improve. But browser is fully working. And now it is important to community to participate in project and make browser great again :). We need escape from Nautilus pasta world. Please report any ideas/bugs on github page https://github.com/dionisiydk/Calypso/issues. I already fill it with my wishes. Next step I will work on documentation/class comments and I will publish couple of posts about Calypso internals. Read more details on my blog <http://dionisiydk.blogspot.fr/2016/12/calypso-new-system-browser-for-pharo.…>. It includes pictures, videos and loading script. Best regards, Denis

Dec. 27, 2016