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Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by Stephan Eggermont

On 13/02/17 16:39, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > If haven't used the c2 wiki or the squeak wiki then you haven't > experienced what it meant, at that time, to find everything there, or > expand articles with your own content. It was really useful, c2 still > is. The squeak wiki is also still very valuable. Lot's of broken links, but also lots of snippets of explanation of why things are as they are. It was essential for getting my Morphic understanding together. Stephan

Feb. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] FastTableModel switched from default single-select to multi

by Stephan Eggermont

On 13/02/17 12:52, Andrei Chis wrote: > Is this in the Glamour model or in the Spec one? In the Spec one, so I might be a bit late in noticing. Stephan

Feb. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Project Mirrors: ConfigurationOf vs. BaselineOf

by Dimitris Chloupis

Â§ On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:31 AM Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: An increasing number of projects are hosted both on an mcz repo e.g. StHub, which loads via ConfigurationOf; and GitHub, which loads via a BaselineOf. Do we have an elegant (i.e. not requiring copy/pasting between the config and baseline) way of managing loading for such a project? For example, I want to fork NeoCSV from GitHub and load my fork, but there is no BaselineOf because the "main" repo is on StHub and the GitHub repo is a mirror (with seemingly limited value since it doesn't seem possible to load from there). Thanks! I distribute all my projects through Catalog Browser and Github, no interest on StHub. None has complained to me so far. Super easy, simple, flexible and powerful. The configuration that is added in metarepo loads the latest from master branch , which I use as a stable release.I add it once per pharo version and never both with it again. Baseline does the heavy lifting of loading dependencies. Git tags mark the versions, independent releases in zip files for those wanting a standalone pharo distribution with just the library in it are also easy to make. Version control wise, I rely completely on git. You do not need a baseline to load a git fork into pharo because git plus filetree can do this , but obviously one must be provided because its much cleaner this way. Especially if the latest code is quite unstable and buggy.

Feb. 14, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by Dimitris Chloupis

> It's not a problem, it's a dynamics thing. GitHub isn't the same, I > haven't seen big wikis hosted there for a long time. In the long run > Pareto appears, and only a fraction of the users create most of the > content, but it is still useful. > > There is a very good reason for this. The rise of Github pages made it more polished to display documentation to users. Not only it gives you the full power of html and js , it also works well with doc string documentation systems like Sphinx. http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/ Both Squeak and Pharo lack such tools. Personally I prefer Github pages and doc string system. I am not a fan of wiki. They end messy and very badly documented. Especially c2 is quite a mess, probably the worst wiki I have ever seen. In the end however one uses what one find more suitable to the way he or she thinks. But for me having the documentation inside the code instead of separately plus a nice polished github page to display it is the way I prefer to work for my projects. For Pharo, Pillar, plus GitBooks is hard to beat https://www.gitbook.com/book/kilon/ephestos/details

Feb. 13, 2017

Project Mirrors: ConfigurationOf vs. BaselineOf

by Sean P. DeNigris

An increasing number of projects are hosted both on an mcz repo e.g. StHub, which loads via ConfigurationOf; and GitHub, which loads via a BaselineOf. Do we have an elegant (i.e. not requiring copy/pasting between the config and baseline) way of managing loading for such a project? For example, I want to fork NeoCSV from GitHub and load my fork, but there is no BaselineOf because the "main" repo is on StHub and the GitHub repo is a mirror (with seemingly limited value since it doesn't seem possible to load from there). Thanks! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Project-Mirrors-ConfigurationOf-vs-BaselineOf-tp49341… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Slack, fragmentation and design information

by Alistair Grant

On 14 February 2017 at 02:39, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ... > In my previous job we used Squeak's Swiki for years and then we > migrated it to Atlassian's Confluence (due to better user support), > and it is amazing how powerful and undervalued a wiki is. > > Wiki's value is like compound interest, you only perceive the benefits > in the mid to long term. > > Regards, > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > +1 I would add that we got the most benefit out of our wikis when one of the developers volunteered to be something of a "librarian" and help others structure and reference the information. Cheers, Alistair

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Working with critiques in Calypso

by Dimitris Chloupis

Indeed this is a very nice system browser Denis, well done , quite and improvement from Nautilus On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 11:56 PM Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hey Denis, this is super cool! I will take a look at that and try to > improve. (Sorry, the end of my PhD is approaching, so I donât have much > time to work on other stuff :) ) > > Uko > > > On 13 Feb 2017, at 16:04, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I commit new stable version. > Now browser plugins can decorate any tool (which can be created by other > plugins). > > I found that annotating text by class or package takes too long time. So I > disable it. Look at implementors of #annotateTextWithCritiquesOf: to enable > it and to see the problem. > QA plugin morph still not works when it is built in background. (it hangs > on "updating critiquies") > > 2017-01-31 9:52 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > > > 2017-01-30 15:29 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com>: > > You will see new Calypso-Plugins-Critic-Browser package. I add decorators > support to TextEditorTool. And critic plugin just adds CriticDecorator into > required tools. > Sadly it is not working. Critiques are not shown somehow. > I leave it for you to fix it. Probably reason is that full tool morph is > prepared in background. So critiques are added when morph is not in World. > I hope you can find solution. > > > And to get working critiques disable background tabs: > > ClyBrowserTabTool>>addInto: aBrowser > containerTab := TabMorph > label: self defaultTitle > icon: self defaultIcon > morph: self. > self build. > containerTab when: #tabDeleted send: #tabDeleted to: self. > containerTab model: self. > aBrowser addTab: containerTab > > So question why it is not working when morph is built from background > process? > > > >

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Working with critiques in Calypso

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hey Denis, this is super cool! I will take a look at that and try to improve. (Sorry, the end of my PhD is approaching, so I donât have much time to work on other stuff :) ) Uko > On 13 Feb 2017, at 16:04, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I commit new stable version. > Now browser plugins can decorate any tool (which can be created by other plugins). > > I found that annotating text by class or package takes too long time. So I disable it. Look at implementors of #annotateTextWithCritiquesOf: to enable it and to see the problem. > QA plugin morph still not works when it is built in background. (it hangs on "updating critiquies") > > 2017-01-31 9:52 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com <mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com>>: > > 2017-01-30 15:29 GMT+01:00 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com <mailto:dionisiydk@gmail.com>>: > You will see new Calypso-Plugins-Critic-Browser package. I add decorators support to TextEditorTool. And critic plugin just adds CriticDecorator into required tools. > Sadly it is not working. Critiques are not shown somehow. > I leave it for you to fix it. Probably reason is that full tool morph is prepared in background. So critiques are added when morph is not in World. > I hope you can find solution. > > And to get working critiques disable background tabs: > > ClyBrowserTabTool>>addInto: aBrowser > > containerTab := TabMorph > label: self defaultTitle > icon: self defaultIcon > morph: self. > self build. > > containerTab when: #tabDeleted send: #tabDeleted to: self. > containerTab model: self. > > aBrowser addTab: containerTab > > So question why it is not working when morph is built from background process? >

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] GLMAction and PharoShortcut

by Andrei Chis

Hi, Good catch. Indeed GLMAction>>#shortcutAsString should go to the keymap object. Apart from the inconsistencies that you mention, there is in my view another one. For example, in the debugger in the context menu of the stack modifiers are displayed using special characters (at least on mac). In tooltips they are display using Shift, Meta, Ctrl, etc. Right now the logic for printing shortcuts that way is in ToggleMenuItemShortcut>>#owner:keyText: and it's a bit complicated to reuse. See GTSpotterCategoryTitleBrick>>#setShortcutBrickTextFor: for an example. Cheers, Andrei On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > While writing these tooltips for the debugger, it seems to me some > refactoring is needed in the use of Pharo shortcut: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19684/GLMAction-and-PharoShortcut-need-re… > > because the current situation to have Glamour tk rendering short cut as > 'Ctrl-A' then Spec as 'Meta-A' > > Any opinion on the topic. > > Hilaire > > -- > Dr. Geo > http://drgeo.eu > >

Feb. 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [QA] Re: GLMAction and PharoShortcut

by stepharong

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 09:41:26 +0100, Hilaire <hilaire(a)drgeo.eu> wrote: > Ok got it. It will be great to clarify the keymap implementation and > use, both for QA reasons and developers. > > What is the status of the KM hierarchy? we should continue to use and expand it. > > Hilaire > > Le 12/02/2017 Ã 18:51, stepharong a Ã©crit : >> For the record we were discussing with denis to have a hierarchy of >> command each one encapsulating its >> shortcut and other. >> Now it should work for calypso and we will remove Nautilus in 70. But >> the problem is all the places >> where shortcuts are hardcoded and we will have to work on them. >> >> Now I'm not saying that we should not do anything now to fix the current >> problem. >> I just mention our current thoughts. > -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Feb. 13, 2017