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Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

by raffaello.giulietti＠lifeware.ch

On 05/05/17 12:25, Craig Latta wrote: > > Raffaello writes: > >> If I understand the proposal correctly, something similar was tried in >> project Lively Kernel (https://www.lively-kernel.org/) which is dead >> since long... > > That project is alive, actually. > The last news and copyright notices are from 2012, the last release is from February 2014, the last mailing list entry is from August 2016 and its gzipped volume in the last year is less than 5 KB. Would anybody honestly call such a project "alive"?

May 5, 2017

List of Pharo 6 contributors - please check

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi, we are collecting the list of people that contributed to the Pharo 6 release. We have now these names: Alberto Bacchelli, Alejandro Infante, Alexandre Bergel, Aliaksei Syrel, Alistair Grant, Andrei Chis, Ben Coman, Bernardo Contreras, Bernhard Pieber, Boris Spasojevic, Camillo Bruni, Christophe Demarey, Clement Bera, Cyril Ferlicot, Dale Henrichs, Damien Cassou, Damien Pollet, Dave Lewis, Denis Kudriashov, Dirk Roeleveld, Eliot Miranda, Esteban Lorenzano, Esteban Maringolo, Evan Donahue, Federico Balaguer, Franck Warlouzet, Glenn Cavarle, Guillermo Polito, Gustavo Santos, Henrik Johansen, Henrik Nergaard, Hilaire Fernandes, Holger Hans, Jan Kurs, Jan van de Sandt, Johan Fabry, Juraj Kubelka, K. K. Subramaniam, Ken Causey, Kris Gybels, Lionel Akue, Luc Fabresse, Lucas Godoy, Marcus Denker, Mariano Martinez Peck, Marion Noirbent, Martin Dias, Max Leske, Maxime Roelandt, Merwan Ouddane, Miguel Campusano, Myroslava Romaniuk, Nicolai Hess, Nicolas Cellier, Nicolas Passerini, Norbert Hartl, Offray Luna, Pablo Tesone, Paul De Bruicker, Pavel Krivanek, Peter Uhnak, Philippe Back, Roger Stebler, Ronie Salgado, Sean DeNigris, Serge Stinckwich, Skip Lentz, Sophie Kaleba, Stefan Reichhart, Stephan Eggermont, Stephane Ducasse, Sven Van Caekenberghe, Thibault Arloing, Thibault Arloing, Thibault Raffaillac, Thierry Goubier, Thomas Heniart, Tommaso Dal Sasso, Torsten Bergmann, Tudor Girba, Udo Schneider, Valentin Ryckewaert, Vincent Blondeau, Werner Kassens, Yuriy Tymchuk Please, If you are not listed and you should, let us know. Cheers, -- Pavel

May 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

by Craig Latta

Raffaello writes: > If I understand the proposal correctly, something similar was tried in > project Lively Kernel (https://www.lively-kernel.org/) which is dead > since long... That project is alive, actually. > ...and was marginally relevant perhaps only in the academic > field and not at all in the real world. As far as I know, the most Lively activity is at the Hasso-Plattner Institute, but it was also very well received at industry conference JSConf. Frank writes: > ...Squeak running in a browser is already old news, thanks to > [SqueakJS by] Bert Freudenberg... Right, I mentioned it earlier in this very thread, along with WebAssembly. > I don't know about interop between that image running in the browser, > and the browser itself. Since there's a two-way JavaScript bridge in SqueakJS, you can do anything with the browser that any other script can do. It works well. -C -- Craig Latta Black Page Digital Amsterdam :: San Francisco craig(a)blackpagedigital.com +31 6 2757 7177 (SMS ok) + 1 415 287 3547 (no SMS)

May 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] ./pharo --help returns exit code 1 on ubuntu

by Andrei Chis

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:13 AM, K K Subbu <kksubbu.ml(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Friday 05 May 2017 03:01 AM, Andrei Chis wrote: > >> Any thoughts or places where I can look? This problem is still in the >> latest vm. >> >> Cheers, >> Andrei >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:chisvasileandrei@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> In an ubuntu installation with the latest vm and Pharo 6 image when >> executing `./pharo --help` I get an error code of 1. >> ... >> On mac the error code is 0. Also when executing './pharo' or >> './pharo Pharo.image --help' or './pharo --version' the error code >> is 0 on both mac and linux. >> > > That is strange. The source code returns 1 for both unix and Mac: > -----platforms/Mac OS/vm/sqMacUnixCommandLineInterface.c ---- > if (!strcmp(argv[0], "-help")) { > usage(); > return 1; } > -----platform/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c > if (!strcmp(argv[0], VMOPTION("help"))) { usage(); > return 1; } > ------- > > BTW, the option is "-help" with a single dash. Two dashes will print the > same because the option is not recognized. You may as well type "--hellllp" > ;-). > Thanks for the info! It's actually a bit stranger. The option should be specified using '--' ./pharo -help unknown option: -help Common <option>s: --help print this help message, then exit Then `./pharo -help` returns an exit code of 1 on mac/linux while `./pharo --help` returns a exit code of 0 on mac and 1 on linux. I think this behaviour comes from [1] and [2]: ----platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c---- if (!strcmp(argv[0], VMOPTION("help"))) { usage(); return 1; } ----platforms/iOS/vm/OSX/sqSqueakOSXApplication.m---- if ([argData isEqualToString: VMOPTIONOBJ("help")]) { [self usage]; exit(0); return 1; } It's still not clear why running the vm to print the help of the version should exit with an error code. Cheers, Andrei [1] https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/blob/b076561abada1884750d… [2] https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/blob/995e7aedc3b5aeb76904… > > Regards .. Subbu > >

May 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] ./pharo --help returns exit code 1 on ubuntu

by K K Subbu

On Friday 05 May 2017 03:01 AM, Andrei Chis wrote: > Any thoughts or places where I can look? This problem is still in the > latest vm. > > Cheers, > Andrei > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com > <mailto:chisvasileandrei@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > In an ubuntu installation with the latest vm and Pharo 6 image when > executing `./pharo --help` I get an error code of 1. >... > On mac the error code is 0. Also when executing './pharo' or > './pharo Pharo.image --help' or './pharo --version' the error code > is 0 on both mac and linux. That is strange. The source code returns 1 for both unix and Mac: -----platforms/Mac OS/vm/sqMacUnixCommandLineInterface.c ---- if (!strcmp(argv[0], "-help")) { usage(); return 1; } -----platform/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c if (!strcmp(argv[0], VMOPTION("help"))) { usage(); return 1; } ------- BTW, the option is "-help" with a single dash. Two dashes will print the same because the option is not recognized. You may as well type "--hellllp" ;-). Regards .. Subbu

May 5, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] ./pharo --help returns exit code 1 on ubuntu

by Andrei Chis

Any thoughts or places where I can look? This problem is still in the latest vm. Cheers, Andrei On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > In an ubuntu installation with the latest vm and Pharo 6 image when > executing `./pharo --help` I get an error code of 1. > > wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest60 | bash > wget -O- get.pharo.org/60 | bash > ./pharo --help > echo $? --> returns 1 > > On mac the error code is 0. Also when executing './pharo' or './pharo > Pharo.image --help' or './pharo --version' the error code is 0 on both mac > and linux. > So it seems there is some issues with --help. Actually, it gives a usage > warning, but still I'd expect to not return an error code. > > Usage: Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo [<option>...] [<imageName> > [<argument>...]] > Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo [<option>...] -- [<argument>...] > > Cheers, > Andrei >

May 4, 2017

[pharo-project/pharo-core]

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Branch: refs/tags/60482 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

May 4, 2017

[pharo-project/pharo-core] 47c873: 60482

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Branch: refs/heads/6.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: 47c87365da967d2da09c986821ab6a1df627098d https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/47c87365da967d2da09c9868… Author: Jenkins Build Server <board(a)pharo-project.org> Date: 2017-05-04 (Thu, 04 May 2017) Changed paths: R Collections-Abstract.package/Collection.class/instance/enumerating/groupBy_having_.st R Collections-Abstract.package/HashedCollection.class/instance/accessing/someElement.st R DebuggerActions.package/DebugAction.class/instance/accessing/keyText_.st A Deprecated60.package/extension/Behavior/instance/layout.st A Deprecated60.package/extension/Behavior/instance/layout_.st A Deprecated60.package/extension/BitBlt/class/current.st A Deprecated60.package/extension/BlockCannotReturn/instance/deadHome.st A Deprecated60.package/extension/BlockCannotReturn/instance/deadHome_.st A Deprecated60.package/extension/Collection/instance/groupBy_having_.st A 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May 4, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

by Frank Shearar

On 4 May 2017 at 08:55, askoh <askoh(a)askoh.com> wrote: > Thanks everyone for digging out the various possibilities. It is heartening > to know the community is healthy and engaging. > > Let me summarize the possibilities: > 1) Recompile Smalltalk VM from C to WebAssembly to run inside a browser at > near native speed. This means a complete Smalltalk IDE inside a browser > with > full access to the browser innards. > It's not WebAssembly but Squeak running in a browser is already old news, thanks to Bert Freudenberg - see http://try.squeak.org/#url=http://files.squeak.org/5.0/&zip=[Squeak5.0-1511… and https://squeak.js.org/. I don't know about interop between that image running in the browser, and the browser itself. frank > 2) Embed Chromium or ChromeHeadless or WebKit inside the Smalltalk IDE. > Browser access is through the exposed APIs. > 3) Enhance Scamper, a basic browser written in Smalltalk, to include more > and more of the capabilities of Chrome say. > > All the best, > Aik-Siong Koh > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ > Smalltalk-Internet-Browser-tp4944879p4945606.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > >

May 4, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Smalltalk Internet Browser

by raffaello.giulietti＠lifeware.ch

If I understand the proposal correctly, something similar was tried in project Lively Kernel (https://www.lively-kernel.org/) which is dead since long and was marginally relevant perhaps only in the academic field and not at all in the real world. Personally, I think there are better ways to spend the scarce but otherwise good human resources involved in the Smalltalk world: but anyway, good luck. Greetings Raffaello On 04/05/17 17:55, askoh wrote: > Thanks everyone for digging out the various possibilities. It is heartening > to know the community is healthy and engaging. > > Let me summarize the possibilities: > 1) Recompile Smalltalk VM from C to WebAssembly to run inside a browser at > near native speed. This means a complete Smalltalk IDE inside a browser with > full access to the browser innards. > 2) Embed Chromium or ChromeHeadless or WebKit inside the Smalltalk IDE. > Browser access is through the exposed APIs. > 3) Enhance Scamper, a basic browser written in Smalltalk, to include more > and more of the capabilities of Chrome say. > > All the best, > Aik-Siong Koh > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Internet-Browser-tp4944879p4945606.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

May 4, 2017