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Re: [Pharo-dev] preparing to release: what do we do with this linux distros?

by Esteban Lorenzano

no reason to complain, I was saying that we are expectantly waiting :D Esteban > On 9 May 2017, at 18:22, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Me, too. But all the work is done by Holger because I don't find time. So no reason to complain for me ð¬ > > Norbert > >> Am 09.05.2017 um 17:13 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>>: >> >> yes, we are waiting for that :) >> >>> On 9 May 2017, at 17:10, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>>: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 9 May 2017, at 16:10, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation <http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation> >>>>> >>>>> I donât think they will work. >>>>> We need to update or remove. >>>>> >>>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> It is impossible to support all the Linux distros out there, they are a PIA if you ask may. There are regularly people asking support for weird distros that are maybe used by just a couple of people (if that many). I think we should have a short list of supported distros, all the others should be contributed. >>> >>> The basic list of supported targets will be close to this list >>> >>> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets> >>> >>> Meaning all "could" be supported if necessary and if there aren't technical issues why it cannot be supported. >>> >>> People with not so common distros need proper build instructions to do it themselves. >>> >>> Norbert >>> >> >

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] preparing to release: what do we do with this linux distros?

by Norbert Hartl

Me, too. But all the work is done by Holger because I don't find time. So no reason to complain for me ð¬ Norbert > Am 09.05.2017 um 17:13 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > yes, we are waiting for that :) > >> On 9 May 2017, at 17:10, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name <mailto:norbert@hartl.name>> wrote: >> >> >>> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>>: >>> >>> >>>> On 9 May 2017, at 16:10, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation <http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation> >>>> >>>> I donât think they will work. >>>> We need to update or remove. >>>> >>>> Esteban >>> >>> It is impossible to support all the Linux distros out there, they are a PIA if you ask may. There are regularly people asking support for weird distros that are maybe used by just a couple of people (if that many). I think we should have a short list of supported distros, all the others should be contributed. >> >> The basic list of supported targets will be close to this list >> >> https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets> >> >> Meaning all "could" be supported if necessary and if there aren't technical issues why it cannot be supported. >> >> People with not so common distros need proper build instructions to do it themselves. >> >> Norbert >> >

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] preparing to release: what do we do with this linux distros?

by Esteban Lorenzano

yes, we are waiting for that :) > On 9 May 2017, at 17:10, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > >> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu <mailto:sven@stfx.eu>>: >> >> >>> On 9 May 2017, at 16:10, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation <http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation> >>> >>> I donât think they will work. >>> We need to update or remove. >>> >>> Esteban >> >> It is impossible to support all the Linux distros out there, they are a PIA if you ask may. There are regularly people asking support for weird distros that are maybe used by just a couple of people (if that many). I think we should have a short list of supported distros, all the others should be contributed. > > The basic list of supported targets will be close to this list > > https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets> > > Meaning all "could" be supported if necessary and if there aren't technical issues why it cannot be supported. > > People with not so common distros need proper build instructions to do it themselves. > > Norbert >

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] preparing to release: what do we do with this linux distros?

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > >> On 9 May 2017, at 16:10, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation >> >> I donât think they will work. >> We need to update or remove. >> >> Esteban > > It is impossible to support all the Linux distros out there, they are a PIA if you ask may. There are regularly people asking support for weird distros that are maybe used by just a couple of people (if that many). I think we should have a short list of supported distros, all the others should be contributed. The basic list of supported targets will be close to this list https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_supported_build_targets> Meaning all "could" be supported if necessary and if there aren't technical issues why it cannot be supported. People with not so common distros need proper build instructions to do it themselves. Norbert

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] preparing to release: what do we do with this linux distros?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 9 May 2017, at 16:10, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation > > I donât think they will work. > We need to update or remove. > > Esteban It is impossible to support all the Linux distros out there, they are a PIA if you ask may. There are regularly people asking support for weird distros that are maybe used by just a couple of people (if that many). I think we should have a short list of supported distros, all the others should be contributed.

May 9, 2017

preparing to release: what do we do with this linux distros?

by Esteban Lorenzano

http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation <http://pharo.org/STAGE.gnu-linux-installation> I donât think they will work. We need to update or remove. Esteban

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic

by Alexandre Bergel

This is amazing! I gave a try an it really looks great! Alexandre > On May 8, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend. > > Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM plugin. > > <bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png> > > I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an amazing job. > > You can find a bit more details about Bloc here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/ > > Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com where he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.feenk.com > > "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > > >

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ann] bloc & cairo+morphic

by Norbert Hartl

Very good work. Thanks for that! Norbert > Am 08.05.2017 um 23:00 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > Hi, > > We are happy to announce that based on the work of Glenn, Alex extended Bloc (Sparta) to work directly in the Morphic world using Cairo as a backend. > > Cairo is less powerful than Moz2D (see the screenshot below for an example), but the implementation addresses a concern that the community raised regarding a perceived increased liability due to the dependency to Moz2D. Essentially this means that Bloc can be treated as another graphical library that can coexist with Morphic without requiring any external VM plugin. > > <bloc-two-backends-morphic-host-figures.png> > > I would also like to point out that adding a new backend and host was possible because of the many iterations (including throwing away whole implementations) that Alex and Glenn went through. I think they did an amazing job. > > You can find a bit more details about Bloc here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/ <http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/bloc-flexible-backends-hosts/> > > Another issue raised regarding Bloc was that of the engineering effort required to make it a reality. That is why I would also like to announce that Alex joined feenk.com <http://feenk.com/> where he is primarily working on the graphical stack for Pharo. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com/> > www.feenk.com > > "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > > >

May 9, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Introduction (GSoC)

by Tudor Girba

Welcome, Rajula. Please keep us posted with the progress. Cheers, Doru > On May 9, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Rajula Vineet <Vineet.Reddy(a)iiitb.org> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am Rajula. Firstly I would like to thank the community especially Guille > and StÃ©phane Ducasse for their support and guidance. I am glad that I have > been given the opportunity to work on the GSoC project 'Enhancing Pharo > Command Line Interface' this summer. > > The main goals of the project are > > 1) implementing clap for pharo > 2) fixing logging and general file management > 3) fixing current working directory > > The mentors for my project are Guille Polito, Philippe Back, and emBee. I am > looking forward to an amazing summer ahead. If you have any suggestions for > the project, I would be happy to consider them. > > Thanks again for the opportunity. > > Rajula. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Introduction-GSoC-tp4946020.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."

May 9, 2017

Introduction (GSoC)

by Rajula Vineet

Hi all, I am Rajula. Firstly I would like to thank the community especially Guille and StÃ©phane Ducasse for their support and guidance. I am glad that I have been given the opportunity to work on the GSoC project 'Enhancing Pharo Command Line Interface' this summer. The main goals of the project are 1) implementing clap for pharo 2) fixing logging and general file management 3) fixing current working directory The mentors for my project are Guille Polito, Philippe Back, and emBee. I am looking forward to an amazing summer ahead. If you have any suggestions for the project, I would be happy to consider them. Thanks again for the opportunity. Rajula. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Introduction-GSoC-tp4946020.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 9, 2017