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Re: [Pharo-dev] Git breaks Monticello's version numbers

by Stephane Ducasse

My gut feeling is that it will be better not to mix git and MC. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Oleksandr Zaytsev <olk.zaytsev(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello > > Two days ago I was trying to send the slice with my fix to PolyMath using > Monticello. But the version number got set to 1494471195. Today I realized > that all the packages to which I commit are numbered like that. > > Cyril Ferlicot explained to me that this happens when I mix git and > Monticello commits. He suggested that I use a separate image for committing > to GitHub, or file out/file in if there is a lot of changes to commit. > > Can this be considered a bug? Should I report it? > > I think it would be causing problems for many people. > > Oleks >

May 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pompeii Volcanic Graphics, a mesh based 2D graphics API

by Stephane Ducasse

Esteban is preparing the release of Pharo 60 but I'm quite sure that he will integrate your PR for SDL20 and OSWindow. OSWindow is too important for us :) Now we need to move everything to use it but our plates were rather full. Stef On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 8:50 AM, Stephane Ducasse <stepharo.self(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi ronie > > This is super cool. I would prefer Volcano to Pompeii because lot of > people died at pompeii but it the dead in Pharo are the old Morphs this is > ok for me :) > About the back end, this is really good to have multiple back-ends for > Bloc. > > Stef > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> >> This is great! >>> Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? >>> >> I do not know. If the Bloc people pointed me to the places that have to >> be modified, and if there are willing to have yet another backend, then I >> am willing to try adding the backend for Bloc. >> >> Best regards, >> Ronie >> >> 2017-05-12 20:01 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: >> >>> Hi Ronie, >>> >>> This is great! >>> Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? >>> >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> > On May 12, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > I am releasing a first version of a new 2D graphics API that I am >>> making for Pharo, using OpenGL. >>> > >>> > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-23-03.png> >>> > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-24-30.png> >>> > >>> > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/PompeiiGraphics >>> > https://youtu.be/emE6_1RpAo8 >>> > >>> > This 2D graphics API is not vectorial based becase it does not use SVG >>> style paths. This API is triangle mesh based, so it is more friendlier with >>> the GPU than Athens or Sparta. >>> > >>> > With this API I did a basic gui toolkit, with only two widgets: >>> buttons and label. I did this Widget toolkit to not mess with Bloc, and >>> because I need something relatively stable for the Woden 2 level editor. >>> For now, I am leaving this widget toolkit mostly as a demo. Hopefully it is >>> possible to make Bloc backend using this API. >>> > >>> > During the process of making this API, I had to fix several bugs with >>> OSWindow, and bugs in the interaction between OSWindow and OpenGL. The >>> biggest problem was a race condition between the creation of an OSWindow >>> using SDL2, and the events (such as Expose) that are sent to the just >>> created Window. >>> > >>> > As for Mac OS X, OSWindow is out of service until a pull request ( >>> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/138 ) gets >>> integrated into the VM. >>> > >>> > Best regards, >>> > Ronie >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

May 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pompeii Volcanic Graphics, a mesh based 2D graphics API

by Stephane Ducasse

Hi ronie This is super cool. I would prefer Volcano to Pompeii because lot of people died at pompeii but it the dead in Pharo are the old Morphs this is ok for me :) About the back end, this is really good to have multiple back-ends for Bloc. Stef On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:55 AM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex, > > This is great! >> Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? >> > I do not know. If the Bloc people pointed me to the places that have to be > modified, and if there are willing to have yet another backend, then I am > willing to try adding the backend for Bloc. > > Best regards, > Ronie > > 2017-05-12 20:01 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > >> Hi Ronie, >> >> This is great! >> Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> > On May 12, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > I am releasing a first version of a new 2D graphics API that I am >> making for Pharo, using OpenGL. >> > >> > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-23-03.png> >> > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-24-30.png> >> > >> > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/PompeiiGraphics >> > https://youtu.be/emE6_1RpAo8 >> > >> > This 2D graphics API is not vectorial based becase it does not use SVG >> style paths. This API is triangle mesh based, so it is more friendlier with >> the GPU than Athens or Sparta. >> > >> > With this API I did a basic gui toolkit, with only two widgets: buttons >> and label. I did this Widget toolkit to not mess with Bloc, and because I >> need something relatively stable for the Woden 2 level editor. For now, I >> am leaving this widget toolkit mostly as a demo. Hopefully it is possible >> to make Bloc backend using this API. >> > >> > During the process of making this API, I had to fix several bugs with >> OSWindow, and bugs in the interaction between OSWindow and OpenGL. The >> biggest problem was a race condition between the creation of an OSWindow >> using SDL2, and the events (such as Expose) that are sent to the just >> created Window. >> > >> > As for Mac OS X, OSWindow is out of service until a pull request ( >> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/138 ) gets >> integrated into the VM. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Ronie >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >

May 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pompeii Volcanic Graphics, a mesh based 2D graphics API

by Tudor Girba

Hi Ronie, This is fascinating work! We will definitely look at this to see what it would take to have it as a Bloc backend. And thanks a lot for tackling the SDL2/OSWindow issue. We will test that as well. Cheers, Doru > On May 13, 2017, at 1:55 AM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Alex, > > This is great! > Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? > I do not know. If the Bloc people pointed me to the places that have to be modified, and if there are willing to have yet another backend, then I am willing to try adding the backend for Bloc. > > Best regards, > Ronie > > 2017-05-12 20:01 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Hi Ronie, > > This is great! > Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? > > Alexandre > > > > On May 12, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am releasing a first version of a new 2D graphics API that I am making for Pharo, using OpenGL. > > > > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-23-03.png> > > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-24-30.png> > > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/PompeiiGraphics > > https://youtu.be/emE6_1RpAo8 > > > > This 2D graphics API is not vectorial based becase it does not use SVG style paths. This API is triangle mesh based, so it is more friendlier with the GPU than Athens or Sparta. > > > > With this API I did a basic gui toolkit, with only two widgets: buttons and label. I did this Widget toolkit to not mess with Bloc, and because I need something relatively stable for the Woden 2 level editor. For now, I am leaving this widget toolkit mostly as a demo. Hopefully it is possible to make Bloc backend using this API. > > > > During the process of making this API, I had to fix several bugs with OSWindow, and bugs in the interaction between OSWindow and OpenGL. The biggest problem was a race condition between the creation of an OSWindow using SDL2, and the events (such as Expose) that are sent to the just created Window. > > > > As for Mac OS X, OSWindow is out of service until a pull request ( https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/138 ) gets integrated into the VM. > > > > Best regards, > > Ronie > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "One cannot do more than one can do."

May 13, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Official cover for the Pharo booklet collection

by Damien Pollet

Thanks :) On 12 May 2017 at 23:18, Oleks <olk.zaytsev(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It looks wonderful! > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ > Official-cover-for-the-Pharo-booklet-collection-tp4946926p4946945.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

May 12, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pompeii Volcanic Graphics, a mesh based 2D graphics API

by Ronie Salgado

Hi Alex, This is great! > Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? > I do not know. If the Bloc people pointed me to the places that have to be modified, and if there are willing to have yet another backend, then I am willing to try adding the backend for Bloc. Best regards, Ronie 2017-05-12 20:01 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>: > Hi Ronie, > > This is great! > Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? > > Alexandre > > > > On May 12, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I am releasing a first version of a new 2D graphics API that I am making > for Pharo, using OpenGL. > > > > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-23-03.png> > > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-24-30.png> > > > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/PompeiiGraphics > > https://youtu.be/emE6_1RpAo8 > > > > This 2D graphics API is not vectorial based becase it does not use SVG > style paths. This API is triangle mesh based, so it is more friendlier with > the GPU than Athens or Sparta. > > > > With this API I did a basic gui toolkit, with only two widgets: buttons > and label. I did this Widget toolkit to not mess with Bloc, and because I > need something relatively stable for the Woden 2 level editor. For now, I > am leaving this widget toolkit mostly as a demo. Hopefully it is possible > to make Bloc backend using this API. > > > > During the process of making this API, I had to fix several bugs with > OSWindow, and bugs in the interaction between OSWindow and OpenGL. The > biggest problem was a race condition between the creation of an OSWindow > using SDL2, and the events (such as Expose) that are sent to the just > created Window. > > > > As for Mac OS X, OSWindow is out of service until a pull request ( > https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/138 ) gets > integrated into the VM. > > > > Best regards, > > Ronie > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > >

May 12, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pompeii Volcanic Graphics, a mesh based 2D graphics API

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Ronie, This is great! Do you know whether Pompeii can be used by Bloc? Alexandre > On May 12, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Ronie Salgado <roniesalg(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I am releasing a first version of a new 2D graphics API that I am making for Pharo, using OpenGL. > > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-23-03.png> > <Captura de pantalla de 2017-05-12 18-24-30.png> > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/PompeiiGraphics > https://youtu.be/emE6_1RpAo8 > > This 2D graphics API is not vectorial based becase it does not use SVG style paths. This API is triangle mesh based, so it is more friendlier with the GPU than Athens or Sparta. > > With this API I did a basic gui toolkit, with only two widgets: buttons and label. I did this Widget toolkit to not mess with Bloc, and because I need something relatively stable for the Woden 2 level editor. For now, I am leaving this widget toolkit mostly as a demo. Hopefully it is possible to make Bloc backend using this API. > > During the process of making this API, I had to fix several bugs with OSWindow, and bugs in the interaction between OSWindow and OpenGL. The biggest problem was a race condition between the creation of an OSWindow using SDL2, and the events (such as Expose) that are sent to the just created Window. > > As for Mac OS X, OSWindow is out of service until a pull request ( https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/138 ) gets integrated into the VM. > > Best regards, > Ronie -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 12, 2017

[ANN] Pompeii Volcanic Graphics, a mesh based 2D graphics API

by Ronie Salgado

Hello, I am releasing a first version of a new 2D graphics API that I am making for Pharo, using OpenGL. [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 1] [image: ImÃ¡genes integradas 2] http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~ronsaldo/PompeiiGraphics https://youtu.be/emE6_1RpAo8 This 2D graphics API is not vectorial based becase it does not use SVG style paths. This API is triangle mesh based, so it is more friendlier with the GPU than Athens or Sparta. With this API I did a basic gui toolkit, with only two widgets: buttons and label. I did this Widget toolkit to not mess with Bloc, and because I need something relatively stable for the Woden 2 level editor. For now, I am leaving this widget toolkit mostly as a demo. Hopefully it is possible to make Bloc backend using this API. During the process of making this API, I had to fix several bugs with OSWindow, and bugs in the interaction between OSWindow and OpenGL. The biggest problem was a race condition between the creation of an OSWindow using SDL2, and the events (such as Expose) that are sent to the just created Window. As for Mac OS X, OSWindow is out of service until a pull request ( https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/pull/138 ) gets integrated into the VM. Best regards, Ronie

May 12, 2017

Re: [Pharo-dev] Official cover for the Pharo booklet collection

by Oleks

It looks wonderful! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Official-cover-for-the-Pharo-booklet-collection-tp494… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 12, 2017

Git breaks Monticello's version numbers

by Oleksandr Zaytsev

Hello Two days ago I was trying to send the slice with my fix to PolyMath using Monticello. But the version number got set to 1494471195. Today I realized that all the packages to which I commit are numbered like that. Cyril Ferlicot explained to me that this happens when I mix git and Monticello commits. He suggested that I use a separate image for committing to GitHub, or file out/file in if there is a lot of changes to commit. Can this be considered a bug? Should I report it? I think it would be causing problems for many people. Oleks

May 12, 2017