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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Noury Bouraqadi

I do too. I'm wondering whether it would be better to fill the circle (lighthouse background) in white. Noury On 13 juin 08, at 13:15, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > i like the blue one as well.. > > Alexandre > > > On 13 Jun 2008, at 12:29, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > >> >> Cool graphics! >> >> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the >> fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the >> shadow of an eclipse (!). >> >> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is >> emerging from the fog? >> >> - on >> >> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> here are some proposals >>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>> Please comment >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > Noury Bouraqadi ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] DNU rootsOfTheWorld

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

So Adrian I have the impression that you remove too much :) Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Once loaded the latest version and update > > When I open an environment to apply refactoring > I get doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > > Stef > > > > > > > > From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > Subject: [BUG]Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > > here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes > you've made and so forth. > > 13 June 2008 1:50:10 pm > > VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage > Image: Pharo0.1 [latest update: #10037] > > SecurityManager state: > Restricted: false > FileAccess: true > SocketAccess: true > Working Dir /Users/ducasse/Desktop/Pharo/Pharo0.1-10036-2008-06-10 > Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus > Untrusted Dir /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My > Squeak > > Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > Receiver: Class > Arguments and temporary variables: > aMessage: rootsOfTheWorld > Receiver's instance variables: > superclass: ClassDescription > methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addClassVarName:->a > CompiledMethod (608) #addIn...etc... > format: 156 > instanceVariables: #('subclasses' 'name' 'classPool' > 'sharedPools' 'environment...etc... > organization: ('accessing' basicCategory basicCategory: > basicLocalSelectors bas...etc... > subclasses: an Array(ObjectTracer class PseudoContext class > ProtoObject class) > name: #Class > classPool: a Dictionary() > sharedPools: nil > environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) > category: #'Kernel-Classes' > traitComposition: TBehaviorCategorization > localSelectors: an IdentitySet(#classPool: #sharing: > #removeFromSystemUnlogged ...etc... > > BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: > Receiver: Smalltalk > Arguments and temporary variables: > aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: {[:each | (self > includesClass: eac...etc... > each: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > label: nil > searchStrings: nil > > BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: > Receiver: Smalltalk > Arguments and temporary variables: > aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: {[:class > | self sele...etc... > each: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > label: nil > searchStrings: nil > > BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: > Receiver: Smalltalk > Arguments and temporary variables: > aBlock: [] in OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment > {[:class :selector | selec...etc... > class: nil > sel: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > label: nil > searchStrings: nil > > > --- The full stack --- > Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld > BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: > BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: > BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment > ORSystemBrowser>>setMetaNode:node: > ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser > class)>>metaNode:root:selection:panels: > ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root:selection: > ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root: > ORSystemBrowser class(OREnvironmentBrowser class)>>on: > ORCmdSpawnEnvironment>>execute > ORCmdSpawnEnvironment(OBCommand)>>perform:orSendTo: > [] in MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: {[(selArgCount := selector > numArgs) = 0 ifTrue: [target perform: selector] ...]} > BlockContext>>ensure: > CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: > MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: > MenuItemMorph>>mouseUp: > MenuItemMorph>>handleMouseUp: > MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: > MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: > MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: > MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: > MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: > MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: > MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: > [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: {[ActiveHand := self. > ActiveEvent := anEvent. result := focusHolder han...]} > [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: {[aBlock value]} > BlockContext>>on:do: > PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: > HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: > HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: > HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: > HandMorph>>handleEvent: > HandMorph>>processEvents > [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: {[:h | ActiveHand := h. h > processEvents. ActiveHand := nil]} > Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: > WorldState>>handsDo: > WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: > WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: > PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle > [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess {[[World doOneCycle. Processor > yield. false] whileFalse. nil]} > [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. Processor > terminateActive]} > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

[Pharo-project] DNU rootsOfTheWorld

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Once loaded the latest version and update When I open an environment to apply refactoring I get doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld Stef From: stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr To: squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Subject: [BUG]Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld here insert explanation of what you were doing, suspect changes you've made and so forth. 13 June 2008 1:50:10 pm VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage Image: Pharo0.1 [latest update: #10037] SecurityManager state: Restricted: false FileAccess: true SocketAccess: true Working Dir /Users/ducasse/Desktop/Pharo/Pharo0.1-10036-2008-06-10 Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus Untrusted Dir /Users/ducasse/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My Squeak Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld Receiver: Class Arguments and temporary variables: aMessage: rootsOfTheWorld Receiver's instance variables: superclass: ClassDescription methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#addClassVarName:->a CompiledMethod (608) #addIn...etc... format: 156 instanceVariables: #('subclasses' 'name' 'classPool' 'sharedPools' 'environment...etc... organization: ('accessing' basicCategory basicCategory: basicLocalSelectors bas...etc... subclasses: an Array(ObjectTracer class PseudoContext class ProtoObject class) name: #Class classPool: a Dictionary() sharedPools: nil environment: a SystemDictionary(lots of globals) category: #'Kernel-Classes' traitComposition: TBehaviorCategorization localSelectors: an IdentitySet(#classPool: #sharing: #removeFromSystemUnlogged ...etc... BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: Receiver: Smalltalk Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: {[:each | (self includesClass: eac...etc... each: nil Receiver's instance variables: label: nil searchStrings: nil BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: Receiver: Smalltalk Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [] in BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: {[:class | self sele...etc... each: nil Receiver's instance variables: label: nil searchStrings: nil BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: Receiver: Smalltalk Arguments and temporary variables: aBlock: [] in OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment {[:class :selector | selec...etc... class: nil sel: nil Receiver's instance variables: label: nil searchStrings: nil --- The full stack --- Class class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #rootsOfTheWorld BrowserEnvironment>>allClassesDo: BrowserEnvironment>>classesDo: BrowserEnvironment>>classesAndSelectorsDo: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - OREnvironmentNode>>selectorEnvironment ORSystemBrowser>>setMetaNode:node: ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>metaNode:root:selection:panels: ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root:selection: ORSystemBrowser class(OBBrowser class)>>root: ORSystemBrowser class(OREnvironmentBrowser class)>>on: ORCmdSpawnEnvironment>>execute ORCmdSpawnEnvironment(OBCommand)>>perform:orSendTo: [] in MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: {[(selArgCount := selector numArgs) = 0 ifTrue: [target perform: selector] ...]} BlockContext>>ensure: CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: MenuItemMorph>>invokeWithEvent: MenuItemMorph>>mouseUp: MenuItemMorph>>handleMouseUp: MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>handleEvent: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: MenuItemMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchDefault:with: MorphicEventDispatcher>>dispatchEvent:with: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent:using: MenuMorph(Morph)>>processEvent: MenuMorph>>handleFocusEvent: [] in HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: {[ActiveHand := self. ActiveEvent := anEvent. result := focusHolder han...]} [] in PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: {[aBlock value]} BlockContext>>on:do: PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring: HandMorph>>sendFocusEvent:to:clear: HandMorph>>sendEvent:focus:clear: HandMorph>>sendMouseEvent: HandMorph>>handleEvent: HandMorph>>processEvents [] in WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: {[:h | ActiveHand := h. h processEvents. ActiveHand := nil]} Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do: WorldState>>handsDo: WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor: WorldState>>doOneCycleFor: PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle [] in Project class>>spawnNewProcess {[[World doOneCycle. Processor yield. false] whileFalse. nil]} [] in BlockContext>>newProcess {[self value. Processor terminateActive]}

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Norbert Hartl

On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 11:50 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > here are some proposals > I like the blue one. But there have something. > Please comment > I like the blue one, too. I don't know if it is important but lighthouses don't have just a light bubble in their center. There is a rotating lamp (or many). Without that it is not a lighthouse (the lamps and velocity are a code). Most images, icons and pictograms honor the moving part somehow. Maybe there are ideas to visualize that. Norbert

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

My remark on this one was that it may be better to get two larger streams of light. Stef On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:32 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> >> Date: June 13, 2008 1:27:25 PM CEDT >> To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >> > <pharo-0.4.4.pdf> >> >> >> Le 13 juin 08 Ã 13:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>>> Date: June 13, 2008 12:29:32 PM CEDT >>>> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- >>>> source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>>> Reply-To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to >>>> an open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cool graphics! >>>> >>>> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in >>>> the fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under >>>> the shadow of an eclipse (!). >>>> >>>> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse >>>> is emerging from the fog? >>>> >>>> - on >>>> >>>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> >>>>> here are some proposals >>>>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>>>> Please comment >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>>>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 13, 2008

Fwd: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: Samuel MORELLO <samuel.morello(a)ouvanous.com> > Date: June 13, 2008 1:27:25 PM CEDT > To: StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos > > > Le 13 juin 08 Ã 13:12, StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>> Date: June 13, 2008 12:29:32 PM CEDT >>> To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an open- >>> source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos >>> Reply-To: An open mailing list to discuss any topics related to an >>> open-source Smalltalk <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> >>> >>> Cool graphics! >>> >>> But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the >>> fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the >>> shadow of an eclipse (!). >>> >>> Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is >>> emerging from the fog? >>> >>> - on >>> >>> On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> here are some proposals >>>> I like the blue one. But there have something. >>>> Please comment >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >>>> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Serge Stinckwich

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > i like the blue one as well.. Yes i also like this one. -- Serge Stinckwich Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by Alexandre Bergel

i like the blue one as well.. Alexandre On 13 Jun 2008, at 12:29, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > Cool graphics! > > But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the > fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the > shadow of an eclipse (!). > > Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is > emerging from the fog? > > - on > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> here are some proposals >> I like the blue one. But there have something. >> Please comment >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo logos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

:) I thought about that too. I passed the remark to samuel. On Jun 13, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > Cool graphics! > > But ... the first one looks too much like we are struggling in the > fog, and the last one looks like we are about to come under the > shadow of an eclipse (!). > > Is it possible to have the fog at the bottom, so the lighthouse is > emerging from the fog? > > - on > > On Jun 13, 2008, at 11:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> here are some proposals >> I like the blue one. But there have something. >> Please comment >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> <Picture 2.pdf><Picture 3.pdf><Picture >> 1.pdf>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Can somebody explain me what benefit we gain by using > ScriptLoader for updates? What can it do more/better than > just plain changesets? Plain cs are used to load scriptloader version. The idea is that we can gather some logic in a class and metadata for some of the actions performed. Normally scriptloader should not stay in a final image. Then scriptloader is versionned in squeaksource, we want to avoid to have cs around. > Please have a look at > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-June/129234.html > > How we like to deal with? In the past we prefered not to remove updates to have the complete history without having to reload each individual release script. Now I should clean a bit this class. Stef > > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 13, 2008