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[Pharo-project] Re: Re: Re: MissingPluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Andrew Tween

I have created the http://www.squeaksource.com/shout/Shout.3.15-tween.71.mcz package which no longer contains MVC stuff. Unfortunately, I can't add it to Universes - the Universe editor tells me it is owned by someone else :( I agree with your suggestion of not supporting MVC in squeak-dev images anymore. "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ac749c10806170637t7343f960h7ccb2791b268bf3e@mail.gmail.com... On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > wrote in message > news:6ac749c10806170613p3edfb55h3fddcaf61fca4f0c@mail.gmail.com... > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween > <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, > >> Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both >> Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain >> a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. > > I plan to remove MVC from Shout. > And create a separate, optional, ShoutMVC package that can be loaded after > loading the main Shout package. This is the best solution I think. > Will you be able to load ShoutMVC into Squeak images, but not load it into > Pharo? It is possible yes but no straightforward. The simplest solution is not to support MVC anymore in squeak-dev images. What do you think? > If not, then I can create a .sar installer which checks for the existance > of > MVC before loading ShoutMVC It is the simplest solution for me, but not for you :-). Do you think ShoutMVC could be of interest to anyone? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] New pharo-dev based on latest version

by Damien Cassou

I've just published a new pharo-dev version on: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2. It is based on version 10041 which contains cleaning of MVC. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Reintegration of StringSocket

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 9:25 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Ok but what is the solution right now to make universe work? > Damien may be you should include StringSocket into the Universe package. > Because it is strange to rely on nebraska. I've just published a new version of Universes which includes StringSocket and its super class ObjectSocket (renamed StringSocketStream and ObjectSocketStream). I have also replaced direct references to other Nebraska classes (CanvasEncoder and NebraskaDebuger) to: Smalltalk at: #NebraskaDebugger ifPresent: [:debug | debug ...]. It seems to me these classes were only used to log things. Do you agree Lex? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Re: Missing PluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:25 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:6ac749c10806170613p3edfb55h3fddcaf61fca4f0c@mail.gmail.com... > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, > >> Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both >> Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain >> a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. > > I plan to remove MVC from Shout. > And create a separate, optional, ShoutMVC package that can be loaded after > loading the main Shout package. This is the best solution I think. > Will you be able to load ShoutMVC into Squeak images, but not load it into > Pharo? It is possible yes but no straightforward. The simplest solution is not to support MVC anymore in squeak-dev images. What do you think? > If not, then I can create a .sar installer which checks for the existance of > MVC before loading ShoutMVC It is the simplest solution for me, but not for you :-). Do you think ShoutMVC could be of interest to anyone? -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Re: Missing PluggableTextControllerandPluggableTextView

by Andrew Tween

"Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ac749c10806170613p3edfb55h3fddcaf61fca4f0c@mail.gmail.com... On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, >Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both >Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain >a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. I plan to remove MVC from Shout. And create a separate, optional, ShoutMVC package that can be loaded after loading the main Shout package. Will you be able to load ShoutMVC into Squeak images, but not load it into Pharo? If not, then I can create a .sar installer which checks for the existance of MVC before loading ShoutMVC Andy -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Missing PluggableTextController andPluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Andrew Tween <amtween(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, Do you think it can be possible to have Shout compatible with both Pharo and Squeak at the same time? Otherwise, we will have to maintain a separate universe which will complicate my work a lot. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView

by Alain Plantec

On Tuesday 17 June 2008 14:25:28 Damien Cassou wrote: > I've just update my image to 10041 and tried to generate a pharo-dev > from it. However, the process failed while trying to install Shout > because it depends on PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView > which are not in the image anymore. > Hi Damien, yes, I guess the problem concerns PluggableShoutView and PluggableShoutViewController. PluggableShoutViewController is the default mvc controller class for PluggableShoutView. (and PluggableShoutView is not referenced anywhere in pharo-dev). I've found another problem related to view instance variable + OB. I will report it tonight. cheers alain

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Missing PluggableTextController andPluggableTextView

by Andrew Tween

I'll take a look and see if I can create a Pharo compatible Shout, Andy "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:6ac749c10806170525r2da65fbr17a00ce24f0cd041@mail.gmail.com... I've just update my image to 10041 and tried to generate a pharo-dev from it. However, the process failed while trying to install Shout because it depends on PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView which are not in the image anymore. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView

by Alexandre Bergel

Arg.. These classes were removed by Alain's change. Can you identify which packages requires those classes? Cheers, Alexandre On 17 Jun 2008, at 14:25, Damien Cassou wrote: > I've just update my image to 10041 and tried to generate a pharo-dev > from it. However, the process failed while trying to install Shout > because it depends on PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView > which are not in the image anymore. > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

June 17, 2008

[Pharo-project] Missing PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView

by Damien Cassou

I've just update my image to 10041 and tried to generate a pharo-dev from it. However, the process failed while trying to install Shout because it depends on PluggableTextController and PluggableTextView which are not in the image anymore. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

June 17, 2008