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Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

adrian should I used al.448 which is in the inbox? Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi Adrian I pushed the updates. Can you check if this is ok? Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Oscar Nierstrasz

What about this one? http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x275/rairadium/12_Barad_Dur_Paul_Lasaine… ;-) On Jun 19, 2008, at 12:25, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I would stop for now and keep this one for example > > <Picture 1.pdf> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I would stop for now and keep this one for example

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent I will push the cs in the stream Stef On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I harvested most of the remaining changes in the inbox, including > Norberts fix (see other mail in this thread). > > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg > > I pushed everything into the Pharo repository, updated ScriptLoader > (update10042), and moved the relevant packages from PharoInbox to > PharoTreatedInbox. > > Cheer, > Adrian > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi norbert >> >> did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. >> I read the mantis entry he mentioned >> but i read superficially. :) >> >> Stef >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>> Hi Norbert, >>>> >>>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know >>>> when >>>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update >>>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >>>> >>> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) >>> >>> Have fun, >>> >>> Norbert >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, >>>>> >>>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>>>> doits in the update stream? >>>>> >>>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>>>> to PharoInbox. >>>>> >>>>> afterwards a >>>>> >>>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>>>> >>>>> will be necessary. >>>>> >>>>> Norbert >>>>> >>>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> >>>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging >>>>>> the dictionary? >>>>> >>>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> - Andreas >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Samuel MORELLO

Hi all and thanks for your comments. As i said to stephane i have tried your different remarks (top of the lighthouse, size of the text, .. ) but i am not convaince about the tests i have made. For the last version, when i tried to put a "n" at the top of the lighthouse, it was not clear. So i have put the "eye" a little bit higher to have a little more distinction when the logo is small. For me, I like the eye on top the lighthouse it can have significations if we want... (pharo community take care of his developers, for example, ...;- ) May be we can put in standby this logo for now and test it in different situations to have a better idea of it. and then modify it again ? (wiki, keynote template, ...) It is not that i do not want to modify the logo but i stagnate a little bit for now. Saying that, you can continue to send your remarks on it . May be we will find something that solve our problem. Regarding the gloss effect i will create a declinaison of this one. What do you think ? Thanks, Samuel Le 18 juin 08 Ã 23:31, Lukas Renggli a Ã©crit : >>> Peux tu me dire si cette version va mieux ? >>> Jai essayÃ© avec un n mais ca ne va pas des masses. >>> J'ai ecartÃ© l'espace entre 'l'oeil' et le base du phare. En petit >>> ca passe mieux. > > I like the colors, but it looks a bit flat in my opinion. What about > some gloss on the letters and the a flare of the light? > > Also I don't know if the "distorted" letters underline the strength > (stable, clean) of Pharo? > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 19, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd:

by Lukas Renggli

> > Peux tu me dire si cette version va mieux ? > > Jai essayÃ© avec un n mais ca ne va pas des masses. > > J'ai ecartÃ© l'espace entre 'l'oeil' et le base du phare. En petit > > ca passe mieux. I like the colors, but it looks a bit flat in my opinion. What about some gloss on the letters and the a flare of the light? Also I don't know if the "distorted" letters underline the strength (stable, clean) of Pharo? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Adrian Lienhard

On Jun 18, 2008, at 23:19 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 23:04 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> > I don't get it into the image via update stream. Is there an > additional > action to be taken for this to happen? yes, Stef usually pushes updates into the stream. Adrian > > > Norbert >> Cheer, >> Adrian >> >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi norbert >>> >>> did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I >>> read the mantis entry he mentioned >>> but i read superficially. :) >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>> Hi Norbert, >>>>> >>>>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know >>>>> when >>>>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader >>>>> update >>>>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. >>>>> >>>> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) >>>> >>>> Have fun, >>>> >>>> Norbert >>>>> Adrian >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So, >>>>>> >>>>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. >>>>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs >>>>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having >>>>>> doits in the update stream? >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix >>>>>> to PharoInbox. >>>>>> >>>>>> afterwards a >>>>>> >>>>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size >>>>>> >>>>>> will be necessary. >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> >>>>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 >>>>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? >>>>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: >>>>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: >>>>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 >>>>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) >>>>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in >>>>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary >>>>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by >>>>>>> exchanging >>>>>>> the dictionary? >>>>>> >>>>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> - Andreas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 23:04 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I harvested most of the remaining changes in the inbox, including > Norberts fix (see other mail in this thread). > > - changed WeakRegistry to use WeakIdentityKeyDictionary (http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347 > ) > - FinalizerTest reverted to real test case > - added missing class variables to DigitalSigntureAlgorithm > - Fix issue #13: TraitsTests pollutes ProtoObject subclasses (Mantis > 7090) > - make BitmapStreamTest clean up the file bitmapStreamTest.ref.extSeg > > I pushed everything into the Pharo repository, updated ScriptLoader > (update10042), and moved the relevant packages from PharoInbox to > PharoTreatedInbox. > I don't get it into the image via update stream. Is there an additional action to be taken for this to happen? Norbert > Cheer, > Adrian > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 22:47 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi norbert > > > > did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I > > read the mantis entry he mentioned > > but i read superficially. :) > > > > Stef > > > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >>> Hi Norbert, > >>> > >>> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know > >>> when > >>> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update > >>> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. > >>> > >> I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > >> > >> Have fun, > >> > >> Norbert > >>> Adrian > >>> > >>> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>> > >>>> So, > >>>> > >>>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. > >>>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs > >>>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having > >>>> doits in the update stream? > >>>> > >>>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix > >>>> to PharoInbox. > >>>> > >>>> afterwards a > >>>> > >>>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size > >>>> > >>>> will be necessary. > >>>> > >>>> Norbert > >>>> > >>>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > >>>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 > >>>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> > >>>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? > >>>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: > >>>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 > >>>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) > >>>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in > >>>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary > >>>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. > >>>>>> > >>>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging > >>>>> the dictionary? > >>>> > >>>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> - Andreas > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [Fwd: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization?]

by Norbert Hartl

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 22:47 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi norbert > > did you read the answer of nicolas on squeak-dev on your question. I > read the mantis entry he mentioned > but i read superficially. :) > Yes, see my other mails. Everything is best now. Norbert > Stef > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 21:37 +0200, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Hi Norbert, > >> > >> We do this kind of scripts in the ScriptLoader. Just let me know when > >> you published your slice and I will prepare the ScriptLoader update > >> script which Stef can then push into the update stream. > >> > > I published the slice 1 minute before sending the mail :) > > > > Have fun, > > > > Norbert > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Jun 18, 2008, at 19:30 , Norbert Hartl wrote: > >> > >>> So, > >>> > >>> now I'm all for fixing it and ressurect the test case. > >>> I'll upload something to PharoInbox. Afterwards it needs > >>> to be reinitialized. What is the preferred way of having > >>> doits in the update stream? > >>> > >>> Anyway I uploaded SLICE-WeakRegistryAndFinalizerTestFix > >>> to PharoInbox. > >>> > >>> afterwards a > >>> > >>> WeakRegistry default initialize: WeakRegistry default size > >>> > >>> will be necessary. > >>> > >>> Norbert > >>> > >>> From: Andreas Raab <andreas.raab(a)gmx.de> > >>> Date: June 18, 2008 7:02:11 PM GMT+02:00 > >>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> > >>> Subject: [squeak-dev] Re: Bug in object finalization? > >>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:22 -0700, Andreas Raab wrote: > >>>>> Norbert Hartl wrote: > >>>>>> There was a test in 3.9 testing this (it failed). In 3.10 > >>>>>> the test got removed but I think it is a bug. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What do you think? > >>>>> The test itself is buggy (see http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6347) > >>>>> but once you fix the test it illustrates a problem in > >>>>> WeakRegistry which needs to use a WeakIdentityKeyDictionary > >>>>> instead of a WeakKeyDictionary. > >>>>> > >>>> Ok, what I said. Do you see an harmful side effects by exchanging > >>>> the dictionary? > >>> > >>> No - we've fixed this a long time ago in our code base. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> - Andreas > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 18, 2008