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Re: [Pharo-project] Browser and shortcut(s)

by Bill Schwab

Keyboard navigation would be great, but (unless I am missing something) tab already has a full calendar. As crazy as all the control/shift-tab, control-enter behavior might be, it's what users expect for moving between fields. Note the exceptions for multi-line edit fields, where tab and enter are of interest to the field itself (hence control-, etc.). I recommend grabbing a copy of Dolphin CE to see how its keyboard shortcuts work. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com 07/24/08 12:26 AM >>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM, cdrick <cdrick65(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, as here everithing seems possible, Ihave three points to discuss > > 1) would people like to have shortcut for accessing the different pane > of the browser ? Here is a mapping proposal: > > Esc to enter leave the mercury panel > > F1 Category/Package > F2 Classes > F3 method categories > F4 methods > ... > tab to change the swith (instances ? class for instance) > > Enter to go to the code pane. > > What do you think ? Not sure easily feasible though It would be a first interesting step. Please try. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

July 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Browser and shortcut(s)

by cdrick

>> >> Esc to enter leave the mercury panel >> >> F1 Category/Package >> F2 Classes >> F3 method categories >> F4 methods >> ... >> tab to change the swith (instances ? class for instance) >> >> Enter to go to the code pane. >> >> What do you think ? Not sure easily feasible though > > I do not understand this. When you say F1. Are you referring to the key? Or > entering "F1 Tools" for examples in the mercury panel? yes the key as there's not mapped I think. New mac have the F1..F12 keys ? > >> 2) more simple >> What about having "browse class" (alt + shift + b) and "browse >> protocol" for an object (alt+shift+p) creates a link to a project >> but... > > Why not having alt+b as it is now? this is to browse the class or protocol of an object... For instance: 1 then alt shift b to open the browser on SmallInteger, equivalent to 1 class browse CÃ©drick

July 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Browser and shortcut(s)

by Alexandre Bergel

> 1) would people like to have shortcut for accessing the different pane > of the browser ? Here is a mapping proposal: > > Esc to enter leave the mercury panel > > F1 Category/Package > F2 Classes > F3 method categories > F4 methods > ... > tab to change the swith (instances ? class for instance) > > Enter to go to the code pane. > > What do you think ? Not sure easily feasible though I do not understand this. When you say F1. Are you referring to the key? Or entering "F1 Tools" for examples in the mercury panel? > 2) more simple > What about having "browse class" (alt + shift + b) and "browse > protocol" for an object (alt+shift+p) creates a link to a project > but... Why not having alt+b as it is now? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 24, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Browser and shortcut(s)

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:39 PM, cdrick <cdrick65(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, as here everithing seems possible, Ihave three points to discuss > > 1) would people like to have shortcut for accessing the different pane > of the browser ? Here is a mapping proposal: > > Esc to enter leave the mercury panel > > F1 Category/Package > F2 Classes > F3 method categories > F4 methods > ... > tab to change the swith (instances ? class for instance) > > Enter to go to the code pane. > > What do you think ? Not sure easily feasible though It would be a first interesting step. Please try. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

July 24, 2008

[Pharo-project] Browser and shortcut(s)

by cdrick

Hi, as here everithing seems possible, Ihave three points to discuss 1) would people like to have shortcut for accessing the different pane of the browser ? Here is a mapping proposal: Esc to enter leave the mercury panel F1 Category/Package F2 Classes F3 method categories F4 methods ... tab to change the swith (instances ? class for instance) Enter to go to the code pane. What do you think ? Not sure easily feasible though 2) more simple What about having "browse class" (alt + shift + b) and "browse protocol" for an object (alt+shift+p) creates a link to a project but... 3) I think autoparens should go away and shiftEnclose:promoted ParagraphEditor>>shiftEnclose: These are far better, as it allows to remove properly enclosing characters. The only problem Ihad with that is it doesn't work properlyon AZERTY keybords (I had to make some small changes). But maybe Safaraa willreplace ParagraphEditor so... CÃ©drick

July 23, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Feedback

by Alexandre Bergel

I just updated ScriptLoader with this info. Alexandre On 22 Jul 2008, at 22:01, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: David RÃ¶thlisberger <squeak(a)webcitas.ch> >> Date: July 21, 2008 1:44:23 PM CEDT >> To: OmniBrowser developers <ob-dev(a)wiresong.ca> >> Subject: Re: Feedback >> Reply-To: OmniBrowser developers <ob-dev(a)wiresong.ca> >> >> >> >>> could you publish a new complete list of packages and their >>> versions? >> >> here it is: >> >> >> Installer wiresong >> project: 'ob'; >> install: 'OmniBrowser-dr.413'; >> install: 'OB-Morphic-dr.49'; >> install: 'OB-Standard-dr.344'; >> install: 'OB-Enhancements-dr.191'; >> install: 'OB-Refactory-lr.85'. >> >> >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> ob-dev mailing list >> ob-dev(a)wiresong.ca >> http://mail.wiresong.ca/mailman/listinfo/ob-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 23, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

by Adrian Lienhard

And what about adding a preference to enable halos, which would be turned off by default? Adrian On Jul 23, 2008, at 14:59 , Bill Schwab wrote: > CÃ©drick, > > There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they > were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs > that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce. > > I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of > the following: > > http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html > > > Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on > the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite > generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better > some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense? > > Bill > > > > > ========================== > cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com > > >>> - do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left >>> mouse? (rotate etc? halos?) >> >> Yes I always wanted to disable them. >>> > > I find there are of no use for browsers... > > What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: > -moving the browser (middle button), > -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL-middle > button) > > CÃ©drick > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 23, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

by cdrick

> There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce. Hence we only keep the debug resize and close ? I don't mind if halos are kept actually. Maybe we could have pluggable allow, some specific toOB... Concerning my request, bringing halo already allows to move windows.To me that would be just great that if combined with ctrl, we could resize them ! What others think ? Also, on the listof suggestion, I'd prefer lose the mouse focus and have a click focus (associated to a tab / shift tab one). CÃ©drick ps: I don't know why but yours answers often breaks threads and it makes following them difficult. > > I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of the following: > > http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html > > > Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense? > > Bill > > > > > ========================== > cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com > > >>> - do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left >>> mouse? (rotate etc? halos?) >> >> Yes I always wanted to disable them. >>> > > I find there are of no use for browsers... > > What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: > -moving the browser (middle button), > -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL-middle button) > > CÃ©drick > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 846-1285 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 23, 2008

[Pharo-project] Fwd: [squeak-dev] new blog post plus closure bootstrap code

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Eliot Miranda" <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com> > Date: July 23, 2008 3:14:51 AM CEDT > To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > > Subject: [squeak-dev] new blog post plus closure bootstrap code > Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > > > Hi All, > > I've made a significant step today in making available the first > cut of my closure scheme. There is a new blog post on www.mirandabanda.org/cogblog > about the closure bytecodes which at the end includes a pointer to > the bootstrap @ www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/Closures0808/ > Bootstrap/. The bootstrap has been tested on internal Qwaq images, > and on Croquet 1.0 and Squeak 3.9. I'd love to hear of other ports, > e.g. to 3.10 and to Spoon. I'm interested in bug reports (I haven't > yet tested eToys) and code reviews and tying up loose ends (for > example I broke decompile with temp names and haven't fixed it). > > Thanks and enjoy. >

July 23, 2008

[Pharo-project] Improving the GUI

by Bill Schwab

CÃ©drick, There is at least use for halos with browsers: figuring out how they were made. At times, I have resorted to see the types of morphs that were ignoring a customization I was trying to enforce. I would not suppress halos unless we have a tool along the lines of the following: http://www.idb.me.uk/idbsnoop.html Of course, one could compromise by toggling halos, perhaps based on the type of system window. Note that since SystemWindow is quite generic, we would either need to add sub-classes, or perhaps better some state to allow the test to work. Does that make any sense? Bill ========================== cdrick cdrick65 at gmail.com >> - do we really need those window controls, coming up with ctrl-left >> mouse? (rotate etc? halos?) > > Yes I always wanted to disable them. >> I find there are of no use for browsers... What I'd like instead of bringing halo is: -moving the browser (middle button), -change the size of the browser (bottom right expand) (CTRL-middle button) CÃ©drick Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 846-1285 FAX: (352) 392-7029

July 23, 2008