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Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

HI StÃ©phane, Michael: 2008/9/4 Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org>: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Normally you should be able to load into pharo 3.9 or 3.8 code. Not tried with Pharo images (yet). >> Now since nobody cared for a long time on Movies I do not know the status >> of such a code. The movies stuff is natively on Squeak 3.8, and are the 3.8 images that I'm yet using on my production customers (In web but also in desktop things). But the try of generate packages from these categories and install on 3.10 failed, as a lot of other tries. May be my own fault, but ..... not sure, weird errors on 3.10.2. > > The "native" Squeak movie code is very outdated and supports only a very > peculiar mpg.1 video format. Good to know, is a big reason to try GStreamer then. So for the future GStreamer and Quicktime > support would be more advantageous. Quicktime is well integrated into > Sophie, but could use some refactoring to bring it into line with the > GStreamer work John did. > > Michael > GermÃ¡n.

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Thanks by the advice, I not played yet with GStreamer and I'm under a bit of time pressure. Do you think that I can use easily to play videos and integrate on other framework (as FMA by example)? Cheers. GermÃ¡n. 2008/9/4 John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com>: > It would be more advantageous to concentrate on the GStreamer interface as a > way of providing multi-media applications. > > On Sep 3, 2008, at 10:55 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > >> Hi Guys: >> >> Sorry if I'm asking something obvious or already asked, but, until >> now, I used only Squeak. >> >> Some time ago I asked in Squeak list about "Movies" categories I need >> to develop a multimedia app, without responses, neither on ReleaseTeam >> list. >> >> Some (bad) responses on IRC, commenting that, as they not found >> "maintainers", they are leaving behind such things. >> >> Pharo will include multimedia stuffs or is oriented only to web apps? >> >> Thanks in advance by the comments. >> >> Cheers. >> >> -- >> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino >> http://www.arsol.biz >> http://www.arsol.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

Hi Serge: 2008/9/4 Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)doesnotunderstand.org>: > 2008/9/3 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi Guys: > > Hi GermÃ¡n, > >> Sorry if I'm asking something obvious or already asked, but, until >> now, I used only Squeak. >> >> Some time ago I asked in Squeak list about "Movies" categories I need >> to develop a multimedia app, without responses, neither on ReleaseTeam >> list. >> >> Some (bad) responses on IRC, commenting that, as they not found >> "maintainers", they are leaving behind such things. >> >> Pharo will include multimedia stuffs or is oriented only to web apps? > > What are multimedia stuffs ? EToys ? mpeg support ? > Yes, exactly, in first term I was talking about movies support, but all the multimedia capabilities are importants, I think. > Pharo is not oriented to web apps. The idea is to have a > well-engineered Smalltalk that could serve as a basis > for a lot of differents applications. > Very very good news to me! > -- > Serge Stinckwich > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > Thanks by the response. Cheers. -- GermÃ¡n S. Arduino http://www.arsol.biz http://www.arsol.net

Sept. 4, 2008

[Pharo-project] mostSpecificPackageOfClass:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all I pushed a MC changes (refactored from lukas original fix) in the inbox. The changes introduced a couple of methods so that we can identify the most specific package of a class and a method. Stef

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by Michael Rueger

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Mike where can we get Sophie code (I mean been able to browse and grab > the code). http://source.sophieproject.org/Sophie/ We don't run a SqueakSource server so best is to do it from Monticello. Michael

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Mike where can we get Sophie code (I mean been able to browse and grab the code). Stef On Sep 4, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Normally you should be able to load into pharo 3.9 or 3.8 code. >> Now since nobody cared for a long time on Movies I do not know the >> status >> of such a code. > > The "native" Squeak movie code is very outdated and supports only a > very peculiar mpg.1 video format. So for the future GStreamer and > Quicktime support would be more advantageous. Quicktime is well > integrated into Sophie, but could use some refactoring to bring it > into line with the GStreamer work John did. > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by Michael Rueger

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Normally you should be able to load into pharo 3.9 or 3.8 code. > Now since nobody cared for a long time on Movies I do not know the status > of such a code. The "native" Squeak movie code is very outdated and supports only a very peculiar mpg.1 video format. So for the future GStreamer and Quicktime support would be more advantageous. Quicktime is well integrated into Sophie, but could use some refactoring to bring it into line with the GStreamer work John did. Michael

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about Pharo and Multimedia

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Normally you should be able to load into pharo 3.9 or 3.8 code. Now since nobody cared for a long time on Movies I do not know the status of such a code. Stef On Sep 3, 2008, at 10:55 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > Hi Guys: > > Sorry if I'm asking something obvious or already asked, but, until > now, I used only Squeak. > > Some time ago I asked in Squeak list about "Movies" categories I need > to develop a multimedia app, without responses, neither on ReleaseTeam > list. > > Some (bad) responses on IRC, commenting that, as they not found > "maintainers", they are leaving behind such things. > > Pharo will include multimedia stuffs or is oriented only to web apps? > > Thanks in advance by the comments. > > Cheers. > > -- > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino > http://www.arsol.biz > http://www.arsol.net > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Harvesting party friday afternoon evening

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

saturday? Stef On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:10 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Friday afternoon/evening does not work for me. I am usually in the > train at that time. > > Cheers, > Lukas > > On 9/3/08, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: >> Friday afternoon is fine with me. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 3 Sep 2008, at 08:44, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On 02.09.2008, at 19:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I would like to pair harvest with some people using ichat and other >>>> each firday evening or afternoon. >>>> Are you interested in that? >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just realized that I will be on the train to germany this Friday >>> afternoon... but I will be online the friday >>> after that. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 4, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Harvesting party friday afternoon evening

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes I was not aware of that :) Stef On Sep 3, 2008, at 11:44 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > 2008/9/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Hi all >> >> I would like to pair harvest with some people using ichat and other >> each >> firday evening or afternoon. >> Are you interested in that? > > Do you think we can use the screen sharing features of iChat to do > that ? > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > Smalltalkers do: [:it | All with: Class, (And love: it)] > http://blog.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

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