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Re: [Pharo-project] About fixes for noury and other

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Normally when you enter a bug fix in the issue I will close it when it is harvested/refused.... I will do the classbuilder related ones now. Stef On Sep 12, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > StÃ©f, > > On 11 sept. 08, at 21:32, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > >> On 11 sept. 08, at 09:44, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi noury >>> >>> I started to harvest your fixes and I learned something :) >>> when most of your fixes are about extending or changing a package >>> just publish a new version of that package. This way I can use the >>> merge tool >>> and be much more efficient, do not create a specific package with >>> specific class extension >>> for it else I have to modify everything by hand. >>> >> This sounds like a cleaner way indeed. >> If you didn't finish harvesting it, I can split different changes >> as you suggest. >> > Did you harvested my previous fixes ? > Cause I added an extra bug fix (attached) to the class builder to > avoid the creation of "zombie" classes (classes not in the > SystemDictionary => Memory leak) when class variable names are > lowercase. The test > > BTW, where one can check to see if a package has been harvested? > > Noury > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur > Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique > ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. > http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury > > European Smalltalk Users Group Board > http://www.esug.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > <fixClassVarsVarlidation-Noury12sept2008.cs> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] About fixes for noury and other

by Noury Bouraqadi

StÃ©f, On 11 sept. 08, at 21:32, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > On 11 sept. 08, at 09:44, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi noury >> >> I started to harvest your fixes and I learned something :) >> when most of your fixes are about extending or changing a package >> just publish a new version of that package. This way I can use the >> merge tool >> and be much more efficient, do not create a specific package with >> specific class extension >> for it else I have to modify everything by hand. >> > This sounds like a cleaner way indeed. > If you didn't finish harvesting it, I can split different changes as > you suggest. > Did you harvested my previous fixes ? Cause I added an extra bug fix (attached) to the class builder to avoid the creation of "zombie" classes (classes not in the SystemDictionary => Memory leak) when class variable names are lowercase. The test BTW, where one can check to see if a package has been harvested? Noury ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Noury Bouraqadi - Enseignant/Chercheur Responsable de l'enseignement de l'informatique ARMINES - Ecole des Mines de Douai - Dept. I.A. http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury European Smalltalk Users Group Board http://www.esug.org ------------------------------------------------------------------

Sept. 12, 2008

[Pharo-project] removing the DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all I was ready to remove the novice mode and I think that we should remove DockingBar and TheWorldMainDockingBar Now gary it may introduce conflicts with etoy removal. What do you think? When will you send us the etoy removal? Stef

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] how to improve the menus

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

an alternate solution is to gave up on browser and just use OB but do we get the look methods with source in it? Some of the menu items are really nice to have. So who is responsible for the menus in OB? Stef On Sep 12, 2008, at 5:43 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi all > > I wanted to clean the code editing menu. > First I wanted to remove the novice mode preference > > Second the problem is that the workspace and the browser share the > same > menus. Do you have an idea how we can do that the browser has its > own menus? > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Using the new compiler...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> >> > Poor guys. I was at the french border at that time (ventimiglia/ > menton) > and it was hot and there were no clouds. You must have been on the > other > site of the country :) menton is nice in february :) too much old people there: I know my grand-mother is living there and I lived there when I was a kid :) Stef

Sept. 12, 2008

[Pharo-project] how to improve the menus

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all I wanted to clean the code editing menu. First I wanted to remove the novice mode preference Second the problem is that the workspace and the browser share the same menus. Do you have an idea how we can do that the browser has its own menus? Stef

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Re: Monticello 1.5

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi matthew we wanted to see if MC1.6 (the one with actomic loader) could load the compiler fixes Compiler-md.67 available in pharoInbox We tried > HTTPSocket httpFileIn: 'installer.pbwiki.org/f/LPF.st' and it broke on us. so two requests: - could you give a try and tell us if you can load the package? - do you have a version of MC1.6 that does not really on LPF (whatever)? Stef

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Using the new compiler...

by Alexandre Bergel

> Poor guys. I was at the french border at that time (ventimiglia/ > menton) > and it was hot and there were no clouds. You must have been on the > other > site of the country :) Arg! Do not tell me that... I was born exactly 20 km far from Menton, in Nice. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Using the new compiler...

by Norbert Hartl

On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 10:22 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > >>> AClass>>foo > >>> .... > >> > >> I do not get what you mean > >> with the old compiler you can use the name of the class in the > >> pattern? > > > > I mean having a sequence of dots in the method body. > > ah... > strange > > >>> Alexandre (who hasn't seen the sun for more than 3 weeks) > >> > >> come on it was really sunny last week-end and half of france is > >> under rain. > > > > I missed the only sunny day apparently, I was in Paris that very day. > > :) > > I pushed the kids in the garden that exact day :) > Poor guys. I was at the french border at that time (ventimiglia/menton) and it was hot and there were no clouds. You must have been on the other site of the country :) Norbert

Sept. 12, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Discussion summary and milestones

by Marcus Denker

On 12.09.2008, at 16:00, Norbert Hartl wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 08:07 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Michael >> This is not a question for us. Let us face it seriously we are not >> expert on VM building > > That is right. So this is a problem changing the code and maintaining > our own vm. It's too much work without the necessary expertise. But on > the other side the combination of vmmaker/slang/c does also not > attract > anyone to get into the vm stuff. So we would be bound to that a long > time. > > Wouldn't Spy (http://pypysqueak.blogspot.com/) be a benefit in the > long > run. I'm very interested in vm stuff (at the moment just reading). For > me it is much more attractive approach I would try to dive into. My > opinion is that it is more flexible and opens worlds like LLVM > (http://llvm.org/) and friends for us. What do you think? > The Squeak-in-python was an experiment. It it not really realistic to think that the result will be a replacement for the current vm anytime soon. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Sept. 12, 2008