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[Pharo-project] what about squeakPage

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I was browsing some etoy cleans of gary and I found somewhere sqPage and SqueakPage. Apparently we can save on disc a bookmorph. Any ideas if this is working/useful/fun? Stef

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9alphauniverse

by Damien Cassou

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > Damien, > > Now I'm confused :) If installing Seaside is easy, then the web image > is not all that necessary, agreed. With PolyMorph in Pharo, every image > gets better. No worries so far. > > You said "we want one image for Pharo." That is probably a good goal. > Will the RB go into Pharo, or will you continue to produce the developer > images? Yes, RB will be part of the official Pharo release and I won't generate specific pharo-dev images anymore. The list of packages in Pharo is maintained at: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Packages -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9alphauniverse

by Bill Schwab

Damien, Now I'm confused :) If installing Seaside is easy, then the web image is not all that necessary, agreed. With PolyMorph in Pharo, every image gets better. No worries so far. You said "we want one image for Pharo." That is probably a good goal. Will the RB go into Pharo, or will you continue to produce the developer images? Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com 09/28/08 5:38 AM >>> Hi Bill, I'm not sure I understand your email completly. Please tell me if it is not the case. On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > Damien, I suspect you put a lot of work into preparing your images, so please do not view this as anything other than gratitude driving some suggestions. With proper selection of browser and (sorry<g>) deactivating eCompletion, I very much enjoy your web image as a starting point. Whether I continue using it will depend on how hard it is to install Polymorph and the RB vs. Seaside and friends. Polymorph is going to be included in all Pharo images so you don't have to worry. RB as been in all my images from the beginning and will continue to be. I think I will stop generating web images for Pharo because we want only one image for Pharo. I will try to find a way to make installing Seaside easy. > Call me demanding, I want it all :) Installer can probably (either now or with some refinement) reduce Polymorph (which appears to be on its way into the Pharo base anyway???) and Seaside to one-liners in a script. Ditto cryptography. Add some lines to load .cs or whatever files I create on my own, and I should be able to download an image, and then run one script that builds the new image. > > I will stop short of asking you to manually keep up with the small releases, as I probably would end up waiting for the October release before building a new image. It would however be great to either reduce what you do to a simple script, or have it aggressively track updates once Pharo is officially released. I'm sorry but I do not understand this paragraph. > >From a gradually decreasing distance at least, Installer looks like it is trying to fill a gap. As always, I would like to see Pharo sprout an ability to apply multiple categories per method; Dolphin has done that from (almost?) the beginning, and it is quite addictive. My point being that however clever, systems that take the one available category to package methods make the restriction all the more obvious. > > I hope that makes some sense. Thanks to all for what is shaping up to be a nice system! > > Bill > > >

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alphauniverse

by Damien Cassou

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 12:36 PM, <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Damien Cassou writes: > > Polymorph is going to be included in all Pharo images so you don't > > have to worry. RB as been in all my images from the beginning and will > > continue to be. I think I will stop generating web images for Pharo > > because we want only one image for Pharo. I will try to find a way to > > make installing Seaside easy. > > I install Seaside into squeak-dev images using Universes, it's a > one-click install. It won't be for long, see the first post of this thread. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you still need a Linux VM with FreeType?

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk writes: > Marcus Denker writes: > > > > On 24.09.2008, at 23:16, <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk> <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk > > For now, I just used the vm from the seaside package and copied all th > > dll's in > > from the freetype package. This seems to work... > > > > The recompiling gets really more important as soon as we go for > > example for > > Eliot's closure implementation... that I would want to have in as soon > > as possible. > > What platforms do you have to work with? The Linux build now runs. > I've a few loose ends to tidy up. I still haven't finished reviewing > the changes. Sorry, I should have added, I'd prefer not to integrate the image changes. Someone else should be able to do that. Bryce

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Do you still need a Linux VM with FreeType?

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Marcus Denker writes: > > On 24.09.2008, at 23:16, <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk> <bryce(a)kampjes.demon.co.uk > For now, I just used the vm from the seaside package and copied all th > dll's in > from the freetype package. This seems to work... > > The recompiling gets really more important as soon as we go for > example for > Eliot's closure implementation... that I would want to have in as soon > as possible. What platforms do you have to work with? The Linux build now runs. I've a few loose ends to tidy up. I still haven't finished reviewing the changes. Bryce

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] who is YM

by Damien Pollet

Yann I guess On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:12 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > because there is a package Network YM 44 > > Please please avoid to use initials. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: [Seaside-dev] preliminary Seaside 2.9 alphauniverse

by bryce＠kampjes.demon.co.uk

Damien Cassou writes: > Polymorph is going to be included in all Pharo images so you don't > have to worry. RB as been in all my images from the beginning and will > continue to be. I think I will stop generating web images for Pharo > because we want only one image for Pharo. I will try to find a way to > make installing Seaside easy. I install Seaside into squeak-dev images using Universes, it's a one-click install. Bryce

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Compression question

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Bill Schwab <BSchwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: > BTW, as further evidence of the accumulated effort, to check the jargon > above, I just fired up an early 3.9 image that was handy, and the > differences are striking! Maybe I do want to lean on Damien for an > updated web image :) Latest Pharo web can always be downloaded from http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Downloads?tm=2. I will try to generate a new one soon. Bye -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Sept. 28, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] possible TODOs...

by Damien Cassou

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:18 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> - Integrating Monticello commands directly into code browser, in >> right-click menu over packages. This really helps with code management, I >> know that from VW. > > you should use the package browser and ask for improvement because you can > start to do what you want with it. StÃ©phane is right. Just download a Pharo dev image and the default browser has these features. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Sept. 28, 2008