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Re: [Pharo-project] On Win32 "metrics"

by Bill Schwab

Michael, I grabbed Sophie 1..0.3 (linux) and do not see FileLocations. Is there another version that I need to get? There is a Sophie-FFI-Win32 category, and probably other Win32 specifics. I need to see what you have in mind, but if it is in the spirit of other "look in the usual places" methods I have seen, it would not be enough IMHO, at least not to get it right. Windows can be installed in non-default locations, and I (and perhaps others) confound things by creating "missing" directories to make things work. As an example, long ago, I had code that expected c:\windows\desktop to exist - it was as good a place as any to dump the result; when win2k came along, I simply created the directory and got back to work. I have never "fixed" that because it is not really a problem. Many changes in Windows require more attention. If we are to claim to support Windows, the system directory is a minimal thing to get right. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> m.rueger(a)acm.org 10/01/08 12:39 AM >>> Bill Schwab wrote: > Does Pharo already expose the needed information? All I found was 'NT' The cleanest way do to it is to use the FileLocations package that we use in Sophie. It makes system calls to find out all the interesting locations. Tweak uses a class called CPlatform and subclasses to host calls that return platform specific information. In one image I worked on I generalized it, called it simply Platform (I think). Comes in very handy :-) Michael _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Simon Kirk

Not entirely fair I know, but I'm using the demo TT + PolyMorph image which was based on 10074. If I try to update from the server on this image it throws up an emergency debugger, which is unsavable. This may well be expected, given that the TT and PolyMorph integration isn't a standard Pharo thing yet. Are you planning to release another TT and PolyMorph image from 10083? Cheers, Simon On 1 Oct 2008, at 10:15, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker >> <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: >>>> May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? >>>> >>> >>> not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a >>> conflict.. and some >>> more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) >> >> I may not have been clear enough. I meant a downloadable 10083 core >> image. > > Actually, this would be a good task to automate (i.e., a script that > checks once a day for new updates, loads them and then saves the > image). Shouldn't be hard... Concerning terminology, I'd rather talk > about "nightly builds" than releases (I think the latter is a bit > misleading). > > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ****************************************************************************************************************************************** This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, Herts, EN8 7EA

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Marcus Denker

On 01.10.2008, at 11:03, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> > wrote: >>> May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? >>> >> >> not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. >> and some >> more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) > > I may not have been clear enough. I meant a downloadable 10083 core > image. > > yes, I will do a 10084 in the evening and then do a downlodable package. -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Adrian Lienhard

On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:03 , Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> > wrote: >>> May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? >>> >> >> not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. >> and some >> more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) > > I may not have been clear enough. I meant a downloadable 10083 core > image. Actually, this would be a good task to automate (i.e., a script that checks once a day for new updates, loads them and then saves the image). Shouldn't be hard... Concerning terminology, I'd rather talk about "nightly builds" than releases (I think the latter is a bit misleading). Adrian

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Marcus Denker

On 01.10.2008, at 10:42, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> > wrote: >> ssue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu >> Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused >> experiment) >> Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 >> Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ >> dir >> present >> Issue 205: [ENH] >10% faster senders of >> >> -> removed "CurrentProjectRefectoring". --> all references replaced >> by >> "Project current". >> -> ReadOnlyVariableBinding removed >> -> cleanGenie: removes genie related methods from HandMorph >> -> DNDAnimationKill: there is an option nobody ever uses to draw a >> line on >> dragndrop. >> -> cleanSmallLandTheme: removes methods from Preferences. More >> needed later. >> -> md-random-cleans.1: remove KidNavigationMorph and some never >> called >> methods. >> -> Fullscreen of/on isrendered like soundof/on, that is just one >> entry that >> changes >> according to state of display. > > I can't update, I get a DNU on nil. Works for me -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: >> May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? >> > > not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some > more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) I may not have been clear enough. I meant a downloadable 10083 core image. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Marcus Denker

On 01.10.2008, at 10:37, Damien Cassou wrote: > May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? > not yet. in the changesets I added there of course was a conflict.. and some more cleanup is needed (remove preferences not needed, and so on) Marcus > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> > wrote: >> Issue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu >> Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused >> experiment) >> Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 >> Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ >> dir >> present >> Issue 205: [ENH] >10% faster senders of >> >> -> removed "CurrentProjectRefectoring". --> all references replaced >> by >> "Project current". >> -> ReadOnlyVariableBinding removed >> -> cleanGenie: removes genie related methods from HandMorph >> -> DNDAnimationKill: there is an option nobody ever uses to draw a >> line on >> dragndrop. >> -> cleanSmallLandTheme: removes methods from Preferences. More >> needed later. >> -> md-random-cleans.1: remove KidNavigationMorph and some never >> called >> methods. >> -> Fullscreen of/on isrendered like soundof/on, that is just one >> entry that >> changes >> according to state of display. >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Michael Roberts

Hi Marcus, good batch of changes! I'm just trying to understand the process by which you made these, since I was going to make some more that are dependent on it. I didn't see a SLICE-xx for these changes in PharoInbox, just the later version of the individual packages in Pharo. Is this because I was looking just at the time you published this, or did you not make a SLICE? etc. I am just trying to follow the docs on HowToContribute. -- I managed to update from 10082->10083 ok. thanks Mike On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > Issue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu > Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused > experiment) > Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 > Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ dir > present > Issue 205: [ENH] >10% faster senders of > > -> removed "CurrentProjectRefectoring". --> all references replaced by > "Project current". > -> ReadOnlyVariableBinding removed > -> cleanGenie: removes genie related methods from HandMorph > -> DNDAnimationKill: there is an option nobody ever uses to draw a line on > dragndrop. > -> cleanSmallLandTheme: removes methods from Preferences. More needed later. > -> md-random-cleans.1: remove KidNavigationMorph and some never called > methods. > -> Fullscreen of/on isrendered like soundof/on, that is just one entry that > changes > according to state of display. > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > ssue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu > Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused > experiment) > Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 > Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ dir > present > Issue 205: [ENH] >10% faster senders of > > -> removed "CurrentProjectRefectoring". --> all references replaced by > "Project current". > -> ReadOnlyVariableBinding removed > -> cleanGenie: removes genie related methods from HandMorph > -> DNDAnimationKill: there is an option nobody ever uses to draw a line on > dragndrop. > -> cleanSmallLandTheme: removes methods from Preferences. More needed later. > -> md-random-cleans.1: remove KidNavigationMorph and some never called > methods. > -> Fullscreen of/on isrendered like soundof/on, that is just one entry that > changes > according to state of display. I can't update, I get a DNU on nil. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Oct. 1, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] [updates] 10083

by Damien Cassou

May be time to release? How do we proceed for the dev packages? On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > Issue 191: freeze in World/Configuration menu > Issue 134: ReadOnlyVariableBinding should be removed (unused > experiment) > Issue 194: some random cleanups from 23.09 > Issue 193: Squeakmap fails to open if it is purged and no sm/ dir > present > Issue 205: [ENH] >10% faster senders of > > -> removed "CurrentProjectRefectoring". --> all references replaced by > "Project current". > -> ReadOnlyVariableBinding removed > -> cleanGenie: removes genie related methods from HandMorph > -> DNDAnimationKill: there is an option nobody ever uses to draw a line on > dragndrop. > -> cleanSmallLandTheme: removes methods from Preferences. More needed later. > -> md-random-cleans.1: remove KidNavigationMorph and some never called > methods. > -> Fullscreen of/on isrendered like soundof/on, that is just one entry that > changes > according to state of display. > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Oct. 1, 2008