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[Pharo-project] would be good to check the brekapoint behavior

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi marcus you told me once that they was a breakpoint support in squeak. It would be great to have it because removing self halt in the code is a pain. Stef

Oct. 9, 2008

[Pharo-project] I'm harvesting nicolas fixes...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question

by Bill Schwab

Stef, Just to clarify, I would like to see category become categories, and to have those free for my use vs. being hijacked by the packaging sytem. Colin replied favorably to my email; it sounds as though he has a similar idea cooking, and I gave him a few things to ponder in response. I will leave it to his discretion, but perhaps we should post those emails here. A few mentions of slices in various replies suggest that I need to take another look at them. Please trust me when I say that Dolphin's ability to apply multiple method categories is a VERY useful feature. You would not regret adding that capability to Pharo. Bill Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 10/9/2008 9:32 AM >>> Good to know I really want to get rid of category too. Stef On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Matthew Fulmer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:56:44AM -0400, Bill Schwab wrote: >> Thanks for the reply. Please do not feel attacked in any way by >> this, >> but you have beautifully illustrated my point: I am not asking to put >> method in multiple *packages*, I am asking to free categories to do >> what >> they *should* do, which is tag methods in ways I find useful. >> PackageInfo (not to denigrate it), has completely hijacked the >> concept - >> actually, the Squeak community failed to add state to allow it to >> operate independently of categories. > > Ok. It sounds kind of like how Craig changed this in Spoon. He > got rid of Catogories altogether. In spoon, there are modules, > which are a collection of methods. Attached to each method is a > number of tags. One usually wants to browse by tags, but one can > browse by modules too. > > I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am > missing, but they don't run on linux. > > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question

by Matthew Fulmer

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:44:34AM -0500, David Pennell wrote: > VW runs has been on Linux since about 2001. Not for me. Both times I tried it (within the past year), it gave an opaque error message while launching the VW installer, and I couldn't figure out what to do, so I gave up. -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question

by Bill Schwab

Dolphin has been running on Wine for a while, so get a community edition copy and give it a try. Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. University of Florida Department of Anesthesiology PO Box 100254 Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu Tel: (352) 273-6785 FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> pennell.david(a)gmail.com 10/9/2008 10:44 AM >>> VW runs has been on Linux since about 2001. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am > missing, but they don't run on linux. >

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question

by David Pennell

VW runs has been on Linux since about 2001. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am > missing, but they don't run on linux. >

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Good to know I really want to get rid of category too. Stef On Oct 9, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Matthew Fulmer wrote: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:56:44AM -0400, Bill Schwab wrote: >> Thanks for the reply. Please do not feel attacked in any way by >> this, >> but you have beautifully illustrated my point: I am not asking to put >> method in multiple *packages*, I am asking to free categories to do >> what >> they *should* do, which is tag methods in ways I find useful. >> PackageInfo (not to denigrate it), has completely hijacked the >> concept - >> actually, the Squeak community failed to add state to allow it to >> operate independently of categories. > > Ok. It sounds kind of like how Craig changed this in Spoon. He > got rid of Catogories altogether. In spoon, there are modules, > which are a collection of methods. Attached to each method is a > number of tags. One usually wants to browse by tags, but one can > browse by modules too. > > I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am > missing, but they don't run on linux. > > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Monticello: an idealist question

by Matthew Fulmer

On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:56:44AM -0400, Bill Schwab wrote: > Thanks for the reply. Please do not feel attacked in any way by this, > but you have beautifully illustrated my point: I am not asking to put > method in multiple *packages*, I am asking to free categories to do what > they *should* do, which is tag methods in ways I find useful. > PackageInfo (not to denigrate it), has completely hijacked the concept - > actually, the Squeak community failed to add state to allow it to > operate independently of categories. Ok. It sounds kind of like how Craig changed this in Spoon. He got rid of Catogories altogether. In spoon, there are modules, which are a collection of methods. Attached to each method is a number of tags. One usually wants to browse by tags, but one can browse by modules too. I really wish I could try out Dolphin and VW and see what I am missing, but they don't run on linux. -- Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] how to register a tool in the open menu?

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 2:34 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > this is MethodFinder in Pharo You must add it to the Universes. The how-to is at http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5899. Each time you make a significant update to the package and you think it's stable, you will also have to update the universe. Bye -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Oct. 9, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] how to register a tool in the open menu?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is MethodFinder in Pharo > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Damien could you add the MethodFinder to the tools you add to the >> oneClick >> image. > > As soon as you tell me it's ready and its repository. > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 9, 2008