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Re: [Pharo-project] PluggableMultiSelectList, ListStub (SUnitToolBuilder)

by John Thornborrow

Hi, sorry for delay, I've just prepared the changes but before I commit to pharoinbox, how do I sign the agreement? Do I just add my name to the "Signed" section on the page? What is the "Pending" section for? Thanks, John. StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > thanks mike this is 100% correct > > On Oct 14, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/HowToContribute >> >> which is roughly >> 1) Sign the agreement 2) Check the issue tracker, you could also check >> Mantis 3) Create an entry on the issue tracker if you want to, either >> with a CS or reference to a SLICE in the PharoInbox, 4) discuss here >> or watch what people comment on the tracker > > discussing it here is important > > Stef >> >> >> cheers, >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > ****************************************************************************************************************************************** This email is from Pinesoft Limited. Its contents are confidential to the intended recipient(s) at the email address(es) to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee(s), nor may it be copied in anyway. If received in error, please contact the sender, then delete it from your system. Although this email and attachments are believed to be free of virus, or any other defect which might affect any computer or IT system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Pinesoft for any loss or damage arising in any way from receipt or use thereof. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* Pinesoft Limited are registered in England, Registered number: 2914825. Registered office: 266-268 High Street, Waltham Cross, Herts, EN8 7EA

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

by Lukas Renggli

>> The server was already down in September and the box admins started to >> search for an explanation - see [1] > > No of course not. > And this is not our goal to see squeak dead. > I think that lukas was just pissed of. I don't wish it dead either. It just makes a very strange impression to anybody, if a server is away for such a long time. Unfortunately we depend on the infrastructure for the Seaside mailing-lists and we desperately need these lists. We were doing a Seaside sprint over the weekend and this was very hard as mailing-list communication was (and is still) blocked. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] OldSocket removal

by Dan Corneanu

While playing with the OldSocket class>>clientServerTestUDP method I found out that a call to Socket>>discardReceivedData is blocking and this is not what happened with OldSocket>>discardReceivedData. An extra test for available data is missing. I could help with moving the methods from OldSocket class examples to a new SocketTest class. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I've started working on OldSocket removal: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=275. I need someone to > review my first changes. > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions

by Lukas Renggli

Another thing I missed in recent versions is the possibility to open a changes-list on the recently logged changes. This is an absolutely crucial feature for an image based system, to be able to restore after a crash. Cheers, Lukas On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > Excellent! > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel >> <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? I >>> always >>> found the simple one less useful. >> >> I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the >> double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open >> >>> How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand flap >>> provided it. >> >> World menu->system->uptade >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good >> luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

by Lukas Renggli

> Is there a way to mirror the squeaksource repository? Or any squeaksource > server? Also this is not related to the issues discussed here (squeaksource.com is running), it can be easily done using wget or a similar tool. For example to mirror the Seaside 2.9 repository: wget --recursive --no-parent --accept mcz "http://www.squeaksource.com/Seaside29/" Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

by Marcus Denker

On 21.10.2008, at 14:13, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > arghhhhhhhh > infrastrcuture touching us, I hope it will get better. > How esug can help? > Not that I know... what is important for the future is that the infrastructure is in one hand. What killed us this time was the mixup between Squeak eV, me, the real admins (who actually do a real good job...) and SqF. If everything would be handled by SqF (money wise) and the admins, everything would be fine. Marcus > Stef > >>>> here's what I wrote to janko: >> >> That's a long story. >> >> The server had some problems on-and-off over the last two months. I >> contacted multiple times the hoster and did not get any answer. Last >> Friday I found out that the hoster always answered, but send the >> answer to the board of Squeak e.V. (who is the paying the server >> since 1.5 years). >> >> So I am not on the board of Squeak e.V, and the current board did >> not forward any emails to me, because they thought I would get them. >> >> So that was resolved on Friday, and Hetzner did a hardware check >> directly Friday evening. The result was that they exchanged the RAM >> of the server. >> Now the problem: the server rebooted, but in some strange state >> (ping works, ssh login does not work). >> >> As I do not have an account, I could not test it. And so we only >> realized this Saturday late evening when Ken tried to log in. Now >> at hetzner, >> we do not have free sunday support, so a reboot had to wait till >> monday morning. >> >> The reboot was done, but the server is in the same state. As I have >> no passwd, I could not check that, so I only 1h ago could contact >> hetzer again. >> ============== >> >> So another reboot was done. ssh up, but does not let anyone in. >> Now we have the offer of getting a login console to the hardware to >> check what is wrong, but I don't have the passwd, so I can only wait. >> >> All in all, a really bad situation. >> >> Marcus >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Oct 21, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Lukas wrote: >> I think this is the end of Squeak. > > Would you declare ... (insert any technology here) dead if the > website/mailinglist is not reachable > for a few days? > > So it's not the end of Squeak - but maybe the end of the wacky > webserver. > > The server was already down in September and the box admins started to > search for an explanation - see [1] No of course not. And this is not our goal to see squeak dead. I think that lukas was just pissed of. Stef

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

arghhhhhhhh infrastrcuture touching us, I hope it will get better. How esug can help? Stef >>> here's what I wrote to janko: > > That's a long story. > > The server had some problems on-and-off over the last two months. I > contacted multiple times the hoster and did not get any answer. Last > Friday I found out that the hoster always answered, but send the > answer to the board of Squeak e.V. (who is the paying the server > since 1.5 years). > > So I am not on the board of Squeak e.V, and the current board did > not forward any emails to me, because they thought I would get them. > > So that was resolved on Friday, and Hetzner did a hardware check > directly Friday evening. The result was that they exchanged the RAM > of the server. > Now the problem: the server rebooted, but in some strange state > (ping works, ssh login does not work). > > As I do not have an account, I could not test it. And so we only > realized this Saturday late evening when Ken tried to log in. Now at > hetzner, > we do not have free sunday support, so a reboot had to wait till > monday morning. > > The reboot was done, but the server is in the same state. As I have > no passwd, I could not check that, so I only 1h ago could contact > hetzer again. > ============== > > So another reboot was done. ssh up, but does not let anyone in. > Now we have the offer of getting a login console to the hardware to > check what is wrong, but I don't have the passwd, so I can only wait. > > All in all, a really bad situation. > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] squeak sites not available

by Marcus Denker

On 21.10.2008, at 12:38, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Lukas wrote: >> I think this is the end of Squeak. > > Would you declare ... (insert any technology here) dead if the > website/mailinglist is not reachable > for a few days? > > So it's not the end of Squeak - but maybe the end of the wacky > webserver. > > The server was already down in September and the box admins started to > search for an explanation - see [1] > here's what I wrote to janko: That's a long story. The server had some problems on-and-off over the last two months. I contacted multiple times the hoster and did not get any answer. Last Friday I found out that the hoster always answered, but send the answer to the board of Squeak e.V. (who is the paying the server since 1.5 years). So I am not on the board of Squeak e.V, and the current board did not forward any emails to me, because they thought I would get them. So that was resolved on Friday, and Hetzner did a hardware check directly Friday evening. The result was that they exchanged the RAM of the server. Now the problem: the server rebooted, but in some strange state (ping works, ssh login does not work). As I do not have an account, I could not test it. And so we only realized this Saturday late evening when Ken tried to log in. Now at hetzner, we do not have free sunday support, so a reboot had to wait till monday morning. The reboot was done, but the server is in the same state. As I have no passwd, I could not check that, so I only 1h ago could contact hetzer again. ============== So another reboot was done. ssh up, but does not let anyone in. Now we have the offer of getting a login console to the hardware to check what is wrong, but I don't have the passwd, so I can only wait. All in all, a really bad situation. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Oct. 21, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] 10095: questions

by Alexandre Bergel

Excellent! Cheers, Alexandre On 21 Oct 2008, at 13:13, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Why is there only a simple change browser. Why not the double one? >> I always >> found the simple one less useful. > > I think Adrian is aware of that and will replace the single one by the > double one. In the meantime, you can still: DualChangeSorter open > >> How can I update Pharo ? Before the 'load update' in the left-hand >> flap >> provided it. > > World menu->system->uptade > > -- > Damien Cassou > Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good > luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu) > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 21, 2008