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Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Marcus Denker <denker(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo. So do I -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Michael Rueger

Marcus Denker wrote: > I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo. +0.9 Pharo-Core and Pharo-Dev (+0.1) Michael

Nov. 3, 2008

[Pharo-project] Re: Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Francois Stephany

> During ESUG, we discussed about that with Marcus. IIRC, he wanted the > current pharo-dev (your Pharo-IDE) to be named just Pharo. The core, > which should only be used by people "knowing what they do" would be > named Pharo-core. I agree, in my humble opinion it seems to be the best choice. Francois ps: I'm new to the list. Keep the good work with pharo guys!

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Marcus Denker

On 03.11.2008, at 15:52, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ? >>> >> >> The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not >> the one without. ;-) > > > What about Pharo-minimal and Pharo-enterprise? I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Alexandre Bergel

>> Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ? >> > > The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not > the one without. ;-) What about Pharo-minimal and Pharo-enterprise? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Marcus Denker

On 03.11.2008, at 15:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>> Yes good idea, to have 2 differents names, but why Pharo-IDE ? There >>> is no IDE in the core version ? >> >> There is only a minimal one, and it will be further reduced in the >> future. So, for real work, it is suggested to use the "IDE" image, >> which includes all the productivity tools like autocompletion and >> syntax highlighting (for a list see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Packages) >> . However, for a Seaside server I would rather use the core to >> reduce the memory footprint. > > I tend to agree with Serge on this. Having IDE in the name might be > confusing for people. > Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ? > The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not the one without. ;-) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)iam.unibe.ch http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Alexandre Bergel

>> Yes good idea, to have 2 differents names, but why Pharo-IDE ? There >> is no IDE in the core version ? > > There is only a minimal one, and it will be further reduced in the > future. So, for real work, it is suggested to use the "IDE" image, > which includes all the productivity tools like autocompletion and > syntax highlighting (for a list see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Packages) > . However, for a Seaside server I would rather use the core to > reduce the memory footprint. I tend to agree with Serge on this. Having IDE in the name might be confusing for people. Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ? Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Nov. 3, 2008

[Pharo-project] A new plugin for Eclipse to ease code browsing

by Damien Cassou

http://www.nwiresoftware.com/ screencast: http://www.nwiresoftware.com/sites/nwiresoftware.com/video.php?file=/sites/… -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which > will be packaged as a one-click image, "Pharo-IDE". And the one where the > actual development of Pharo takes place is named Pharo-CORE. Using DEV is > ambiguous because its not clear whether this image is supposed to develop > applications or Pharo itself. During ESUG, we discussed about that with Marcus. IIRC, he wanted the current pharo-dev (your Pharo-IDE) to be named just Pharo. The core, which should only be used by people "knowing what they do" would be named Pharo-core. -- Damien Cassou Peter von der AhÃ©: Â«I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good luckÂ». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)

Nov. 3, 2008

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 release plan

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Adrian, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, > which will be packaged as a one-click image, "Pharo-IDE". And the one > where the actual development of Pharo takes place is named Pharo-CORE. > Using DEV is ambiguous because its not clear whether this image is > supposed to develop applications or Pharo itself. I'm also not happy with Pharo-IDE name. I'd rather stay with DEV, because we all were getting used of the name from Damien's images. I also don't find the name ambiguous, it means the images as a TOOL for development, for developers. While CORE means some core image on top of which you can then build your own image, according to your own wishes, without removing unneeded stuff first. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Nov. 3, 2008