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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10209 Watchit integration

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

as a debugging tool I'm not sure that we want to have it more complex and with a window now I may be wrong so I will let the other give their point of view first On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:22 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi Stef, > >> Now it is nicely integrated in pharo. > > Not yet - why not open it in a separate window instead of a plain > morph on the desk? > This would be more consistent with inspect it, debug it and explore > it from the same menu. > You can also collapse the watch window and move it easily around... > > see code below. > > Bye > Torsten > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > watchIt > > | result | > > self handleEdit: > [result := textMorph editor compileSelectionAsBlock. > ((result isKindOf: FakeClassPool) or: [result == #failedDoit]) > ifTrue: [^self flash]]. > (RectangleMorph new) > layoutPolicy: TableLayout new; > layoutInset: 3; > listDirection: #topToBottom; > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > vResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorphBack: (StringMorph contents: textMorph editor selection); > addMorphBack: ((UpdatingStringMorph on: result selector: #value) > stepTime: 500; > maximumWidth: nil; > growable: true); > color: Color white; > borderColor: Color black; > openInWindow > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehÃ¶rt? Der kann`s mit > allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 20, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10209 Watchit integration

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi Stef, >Now it is nicely integrated in pharo. Not yet - why not open it in a separate window instead of a plain morph on the desk? This would be more consistent with inspect it, debug it and explore it from the same menu. You can also collapse the watch window and move it easily around... see code below. Bye Torsten ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- watchIt | result | self handleEdit: [result := textMorph editor compileSelectionAsBlock. ((result isKindOf: FakeClassPool) or: [result == #failedDoit]) ifTrue: [^self flash]]. (RectangleMorph new) layoutPolicy: TableLayout new; layoutInset: 3; listDirection: #topToBottom; hResizing: #shrinkWrap; vResizing: #shrinkWrap; addMorphBack: (StringMorph contents: textMorph editor selection); addMorphBack: ((UpdatingStringMorph on: result selector: #value) stepTime: 500; maximumWidth: nil; growable: true); color: Color white; borderColor: Color black; openInWindow -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehÃ¶rt? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Names for the pharo scripting syntax

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Michael Roberts wrote: > +1 > I would pick something that meant free (liberated) or light weight. I > can't think of many at the moment but how about wisp or crest (of a > wave) crest is nice :) Central Resistant Emancipating Smalltalk French: Ã©cume English: foam - froth - scum - surf Tombolo looks strange in french because of tombola = lottery > > > Mike > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> We want a real scripting syntax not with !! >> I will not reopen the story: wait and see. >> This is since two years that we have that nearly ready but never >> suceeded to release it. >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: >> >>> Stef, >>> >>> My first reaction is "why is it not Smalltalk?" Not the name, but >>> the language itself. Is there something I missed/should read to >>> understand it? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. >>> University of Florida >>> Department of Anesthesiology >>> PO Box 100254 >>> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 >>> >>> Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu >>> Tel: (352) 273-6785 >>> FAX: (352) 392-7029 >>> >>>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 01/19/09 4:16 PM >>> >>> hi guys >>> >>> gwenael is polishing the scripting syntax of pharo (was called in >>> another world sapphir). >>> Now we are looking for a new for such a syntax. If you have ideas >>> please let us know. >>> Ideally we would like to have a connection with the sea/nature >>> (peace >>> and love sarcasm). >>> >>> I was thinking about >>> zephir, >>> thunder, >>> storm, >>> wave, >>> wale, >>> orcal, >>> Maikai >>> to be well, fine, in a state of goodness in hawaian >>> MAILA : mÄ*ila (stative) to be clear, as of the sea >>> atoll, >>> maibai >>> >>>>> - Similar words used to describe coastlines are nice as well: >>>>> "Tombolo" (my favorite and not a common word), "Lagoon", "Cover", >>>>> "Cliff" and "Bay". >>> >>> from lukas >>> >>> I like atoll :) since faro is an atoll >>> But I like Tombolo too. >>> >>> stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Workspace Enhancement

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > It happened to me more than once, that I accidently had some huge > objects hanging in a workspace leading to a memory leak. So > remembering the variables can be a dangerous thing. yes :) > However, just remembering the string isn't that useful either. I often > build objects that I keep around in a workspace to play with. Without > remembering these instances the code snippets in the workspace are > useless. > > So I don't know ;-) a class :) Stef > > > Lukas > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:46 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> I would not bother there are inspectors for this kind of things. >> You create an object and get several snippets >> >> Else you write a class, no? >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>>> Neat behaviour - I'll have to try it out (like, what happens when >>>> you have 5 open workspaces - do they all have access to the same >>>> list of history? Just something to try). >>>> >>>> What about contents of workspace variables? Are those stored in >>>> the >>>> history as well? >>> >>> Actually, I seldom reuse variables across workspaces and have no >>> more >>> than 2 or 3 workspace at the same time. >>> What would be the ideal scenario for variables? >>> >>> Thanks for your words, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 20, 2009

[Pharo-project] call for help for test

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all we have some work to do about tests - long - interactive .... If you can/want help please let me know. I see two kinds of actions - having a look at Keith Unit extensions to see how we can fix the current situation - fixing current situation Stef

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Names for the pharo scripting syntax

by Michael Roberts

+1 I would pick something that meant free (liberated) or light weight. I can't think of many at the moment but how about wisp or crest (of a wave) Mike On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 7:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > We want a real scripting syntax not with !! > I will not reopen the story: wait and see. > This is since two years that we have that nearly ready but never > suceeded to release it. > > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: > >> Stef, >> >> My first reaction is "why is it not Smalltalk?" Not the name, but >> the language itself. Is there something I missed/should read to >> understand it? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. >> University of Florida >> Department of Anesthesiology >> PO Box 100254 >> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 >> >> Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu >> Tel: (352) 273-6785 >> FAX: (352) 392-7029 >> >>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 01/19/09 4:16 PM >>> >> hi guys >> >> gwenael is polishing the scripting syntax of pharo (was called in >> another world sapphir). >> Now we are looking for a new for such a syntax. If you have ideas >> please let us know. >> Ideally we would like to have a connection with the sea/nature (peace >> and love sarcasm). >> >> I was thinking about >> zephir, >> thunder, >> storm, >> wave, >> wale, >> orcal, >> Maikai >> to be well, fine, in a state of goodness in hawaian >> MAILA : mÄ*ila (stative) to be clear, as of the sea >> atoll, >> maibai >> >>>> - Similar words used to describe coastlines are nice as well: >>>> "Tombolo" (my favorite and not a common word), "Lagoon", "Cover", >>>> "Cliff" and "Bay". >> >> from lukas >> >> I like atoll :) since faro is an atoll >> But I like Tombolo too. >> >> stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Names for the pharo scripting syntax

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys, sorry to be blunt but I will ***NOT*** discuss this topic on this list. I'm tired. We are a couple that want to write ruby-like script in pharo with a smalltalk syntax but we want something else that !! as delimiter. So we have a first version and we will use it for our scripting wishes. We will learn from it and may be adpat it a bit in the future but first we will use it and not discuss endlessly. Stef I do not want to write but you can: 'From Pharo0.1 of 16 May 2008 [Latest update: #10201] on 30 December 2008 at 7:27:25 pm'! "Change Set: M7256-SmallDictionary-capacity-Test Date: 30 December 2008 Author: nice This is a non regression test for http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7256 "! TestCase subclass: #SmallDictionaryTest instanceVariableNames: '' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'CollectionsTests-Unordered'! !SmallDictionaryTest methodsFor: 'testing' stamp: 'nice 12/30/2008 19:26'! testCapacity "this is a non regression test for http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7256 " self shouldnt: [SmallDictionary new capacity] raise: Error! ! !SmallDictionaryTest reorganize! ('testing' testCapacity) ! On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Stef, > > My first reaction is "why is it not Smalltalk?" Not the name, but > the language itself. Is there something I missed/should read to > understand it? > > Bill > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 273-6785 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 01/19/09 4:16 PM >>> > hi guys > > gwenael is polishing the scripting syntax of pharo (was called in > another world sapphir). > Now we are looking for a new for such a syntax. If you have ideas > please let us know. > Ideally we would like to have a connection with the sea/nature (peace > and love sarcasm). > > I was thinking about > zephir, > thunder, > storm, > wave, > wale, > orcal, > Maikai > to be well, fine, in a state of goodness in hawaian > MAILA : mÄ*ila (stative) to be clear, as of the sea > atoll, > maibai > >>> - Similar words used to describe coastlines are nice as well: >>> "Tombolo" (my favorite and not a common word), "Lagoon", "Cover", >>> "Cliff" and "Bay". > > from lukas > > I like atoll :) since faro is an atoll > But I like Tombolo too. > > stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Workspace Enhancement

by Lukas Renggli

It happened to me more than once, that I accidently had some huge objects hanging in a workspace leading to a memory leak. So remembering the variables can be a dangerous thing. However, just remembering the string isn't that useful either. I often build objects that I keep around in a workspace to play with. Without remembering these instances the code snippets in the workspace are useless. So I don't know ;-) Lukas On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:46 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I would not bother there are inspectors for this kind of things. > You create an object and get several snippets > > Else you write a class, no? > > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >>> Neat behaviour - I'll have to try it out (like, what happens when >>> you have 5 open workspaces - do they all have access to the same >>> list of history? Just something to try). >>> >>> What about contents of workspace variables? Are those stored in the >>> history as well? >> >> Actually, I seldom reuse variables across workspaces and have no more >> than 2 or 3 workspace at the same time. >> What would be the ideal scenario for variables? >> >> Thanks for your words, >> Alexandre >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] - New SqueakDBX release

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks. I'm not expert but I appreciate your dedication because this is difficult to obtain robust software, and it deserves care and time. So keep your good job. Stef On Jan 20, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > As promise, here are new benchmarks: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/ > 6063 > > Till now, we only have benchmarks for PostgreSQL. Now we have for > all the supported backends. > > Cheers, > > Mariano > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > > wrote: > We are very glad to announce our second beta release of SqueakDBX. > > The aim of this project is to build an OpenDBX > (http://www.linuxnetworks.de/doc/index.php/OpenDBX/) plugin which will > allow users to perform relational database operations (DDL, DML and > SQL) through a truly open source library. > > The features for this release are: > > Bugs fixed: > > - Bug in odbx_query(), odbx_result() and odbx_result_finish() > execution order. > - Timeout in DBXPlatform #nextResultSet: was wrong mapped with FFI. > Now, it is nil. > - Some bugs in OpenDBXWin32 with apiCalls. > > New Features: > > -Support for SQLite in Linux > -Support for MSSQL in linux and windows (with MinGW) > -Support for PostgreSQL in Windows (with MinGW). > -Better error handling. See http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6076 > -New non-blocking plugin to replace FFI (just a proof of concept, but > running). See OpenDBX-Plugin package in Monticello. > -New SqueakDBX tutorial: how to compile openDBX in linux and windwos, > common problems and solutions. You can download it from: > http://www.assembla.com/spaces/Proyecto-Proyecto/documents/a0bKPg0qCr3Aeaab… > . > However this pdf will be converted into "wiki format" and put there. > -Configurable Log. See http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6099 > -Refactorized and updated wiki: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6052 > > > - We will be adding benchmarks on different backends and OS soon in > the wiki: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6063. > - You must use openDBX 1.3.10 version. > > Useful links from wiki: > > - Current supported backends, operating system and squeak images here: > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6108 > - ChangeLog: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6109 > - Targets and Features: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6106 > > > Again, help wanted. We are really convinced about open source > projects. A software project is better when people share opinions, > work, advice, comments, etc. > We would really appreciate if you: > > -Give us opinions, comments, ideas, new features, complaints and so > on. > -tell us if you find a bug. > -tell us if you test SqueakDBX with other RDMBS or OS different from > the ones we tested. Just to know if it works or not :) > > Full documentation, installation and getting started instructions can > be found at wiki page: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6052 > > Packages can be installed from Universe (3.10) or SqueakMap. Current > version is 0.8 > Sources can be download from SqueakSource > http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakDBX (it requires FFI installed) > > Cheers, > > SqueakDBX team > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 20, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] {Spam?} Names for the pharo scripting syntax

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We want a real scripting syntax not with !! I will not reopen the story: wait and see. This is since two years that we have that nearly ready but never suceeded to release it. On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Bill Schwab wrote: > Stef, > > My first reaction is "why is it not Smalltalk?" Not the name, but > the language itself. Is there something I missed/should read to > understand it? > > Bill > > > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D. > University of Florida > Department of Anesthesiology > PO Box 100254 > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254 > > Email: bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu > Tel: (352) 273-6785 > FAX: (352) 392-7029 > >>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr 01/19/09 4:16 PM >>> > hi guys > > gwenael is polishing the scripting syntax of pharo (was called in > another world sapphir). > Now we are looking for a new for such a syntax. If you have ideas > please let us know. > Ideally we would like to have a connection with the sea/nature (peace > and love sarcasm). > > I was thinking about > zephir, > thunder, > storm, > wave, > wale, > orcal, > Maikai > to be well, fine, in a state of goodness in hawaian > MAILA : mÄ*ila (stative) to be clear, as of the sea > atoll, > maibai > >>> - Similar words used to describe coastlines are nice as well: >>> "Tombolo" (my favorite and not a common word), "Lagoon", "Cover", >>> "Cliff" and "Bay". > > from lukas > > I like atoll :) since faro is an atoll > But I like Tombolo too. > > stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 20, 2009