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Re: [Pharo-project] Inst var case (was: Mike we need some fixes for mime.... :)

by Michael Rueger

changed the subject :-) Michael On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Michael Roberts <mike(a)mjr104.co.uk> wrote: > I just wanted to add that I agree the change is currently at the wrong > level. Whilst the change was done with the best intentions, and in > the best spirit of what Pharo is trying to be, the impact on the user > was not obvious until it was live. I wanted to load the cryptography > package so that I could play with the Amazon cloud stuff. I get > exactly the same warning and it is a disruption. I agree with the > thread that said this should be a code critic rule, and / or there is > some control over when the warnings are raised. I also saw that Doru > was having issues with it as well in another thread. I'm all for > change, but in this case we need to be more sophisticated about it. > > thanks, > Mike > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Ok >> >>>> >>> Lets discuss this monday. >> >> :) >> >>> I am not against change, but this chagne is *at the wrong level*. >>> >>> I don't want RB Lint to do the check in the browser (maybe later), >>> it can be done just the same it is now done in the classbuilder, just >>> in the browser. That's where we want it, as it talks to the user. >> >> Why not then. >> My gut feeling is that we should have LARGE warning when also saving >> or loading code. >> Consistency can be a good thing >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Mike we need some fixes for mime.... :)

by Michael Roberts

I just wanted to add that I agree the change is currently at the wrong level. Whilst the change was done with the best intentions, and in the best spirit of what Pharo is trying to be, the impact on the user was not obvious until it was live. I wanted to load the cryptography package so that I could play with the Amazon cloud stuff. I get exactly the same warning and it is a disruption. I agree with the thread that said this should be a code critic rule, and / or there is some control over when the warnings are raised. I also saw that Doru was having issues with it as well in another thread. I'm all for change, but in this case we need to be more sophisticated about it. thanks, Mike On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:48 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Ok > >>> >> Lets discuss this monday. > > :) > >> I am not against change, but this chagne is *at the wrong level*. >> >> I don't want RB Lint to do the check in the browser (maybe later), >> it can be done just the same it is now done in the classbuilder, just >> in the browser. That's where we want it, as it talks to the user. > > Why not then. > My gut feeling is that we should have LARGE warning when also saving > or loading code. > Consistency can be a good thing > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 17, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] new polymorph version

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

10235 contains new polymorph version and diff tools. Stef

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Polymorph

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

may be I should do may be I can do the following patch MC by hand load the code merge it and save it into pharo then create a script that load from the pharo I guess that it looks ok. Stef On Feb 17, 2009, at 8:48 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Now I have a problem since I do not know whether the version of > Polymorph which is published in Pharo > is the ancestor of the one in UIEnhancements. > Before I would merge and publish. > Now I would have to copy the package and build manually script that > silently load the packages. > However, our script takes only pharo repository as input for loading > packages. > I could add the UIenhancement respository but do we want that? > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Polymorph

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Now I have a problem since I do not know whether the version of Polymorph which is published in Pharo is the ancestor of the one in UIEnhancements. Before I would merge and publish. Now I would have to copy the package and build manually script that silently load the packages. However, our script takes only pharo repository as input for loading packages. I could add the UIenhancement respository but do we want that? Stef

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] I do not understand universe!!!!

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> How can I load OB-Refactory using Universe? > > My mistake. Please wait 15minutes and try again. If you want to fix it immediatly, change the url in the debugger to: http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/omnibrowser/OB-Refactory-lr.129.mcz -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] I do not understand universe!!!!

by Lukas Renggli

I don't know who added this version to Universe. This is a version I committed to my own repository, I copied it now to <http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/> so that should fix your problem. Lukas On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <STEPHANE.DUCASSE(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I wanted to load the latest version of OB-Refactory > using universe and I get a message that OB-Refactory-lr.129.mcz is not > in > http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/ > > and it is not. > > So what? > How can I load OB-Refactory using Universe? > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] I do not understand universe!!!!

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <STEPHANE.DUCASSE(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I wanted to load the latest version of OB-Refactory > using universe and I get a message that OB-Refactory-lr.129.mcz is not > in > http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/ > > and it is not. > > So what? > How can I load OB-Refactory using Universe? My mistake. Please wait 15minutes and try again. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

Feb. 17, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Polymorph

by Adrian Lienhard

On Feb 17, 2009, at 15:24 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I'm working on something else > > I think that we have a slient loader so the patch hsould not be > necessary but I have to check Yes, I once implemented ScriptLoader>>loadTogether:merge:silently:, which suppresses the progress bar if the last argument is true. Adrian > > > On Feb 17, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> Either try incrmentally or do the MC patch shuffle then. >> Though hold of for a few minutes while I make a new version >> fixing some things with the old MC browsers. >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Polymorph >> >> >> was from polymorph stephaneducasse 42. >> >> stef >> >> On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:23 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> Depends from which version you are migrating. Had no problems here, >>> though >>> was more incremental since I was testing (was one step at a time). >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Damien Cassou" <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> >>> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:59 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Loading Polymorph >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> Should I patch MC before? >>> >>> Yes, I think so. Gary told me that when I tried to load Polymorph. >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 17, 2009

[Pharo-project] I do not understand universe!!!!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I wanted to load the latest version of OB-Refactory using universe and I get a message that OB-Refactory-lr.129.mcz is not in http://source.wiresong.ca/ob/ and it is not. So what? How can I load OB-Refactory using Universe? Stef

Feb. 17, 2009