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Re: [Pharo-project] Preference refactoring again

by Alexandre Bergel

This will probably work and seems reasonable in a general context. However, for our situation, I feel these are on different levels. Preferences should be defined and taken into account in Pharo-core, meaning without Magritte. Cheers, Alexandre On 2 Mar 2009, at 18:03, Matthew Fulmer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 01:59:03PM +0100, Alain Plantec wrote: >> or simply : >> >> FreeTypeSettings class>>monitorTypeLCD >> <preference:'LCD monitor type' type:#Boolean decsription:'Use of a >> LCD...'> >> ^ MonitorTypeLCD ifNil: [MonitorTypeLCD := PreferenceValue >> default:false] > > Did anybody ever notice my suggestion to use Magritte for > Preferences? > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-February/005489.h… > > ----- Forwarded message from Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> ----- > > From: Matthew Fulmer <tapplek(a)gmail.com> > To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:15:55 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Preferences refactoring > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 02:19:55PM -0500, Matthew Fulmer wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 05:32:33PM -0000, Gary Chambers wrote: >>> So, for new browser it needs to be decided what information to >>> show as this >>> will affect the pragma. >>> For instance, do we still want categories, "project >>> specific" (probably not) >>> etc. >>> >>> I expect we will want a Preference class either way to model each >>> preference >>> in the browser. >>> Making a new browser is quite an undertaking given the different >>> types of >>> preference (boolean, text, one-of-many, colour, font etc.). >> >> I think Magritte is the proper solution. It already handles UI >> metadata like this. > > Something like this: > > prefTheme > <preference category: 'User Interface'> > ^ MASingleOptionDescription new > options: #( 'Vistary' 'Watery' 'Squeak' 'Soft Squeak' ); > reference: MAStringDescription new; > autoAccessor: 'theme'; > label: 'Theme'; > priority: 40; > beSorted; > yourself > >> Regarding preferences being optional, I think just a few tweaks >> to the MC loader would work: If the Preferences Browser is not >> loaded, MC will not compile the methods that return the Magritte >> metadata. If this is done properly, as in MC1.5, these methods >> will hang out uncompiled in the orphanage until you load the >> preferences package, at which point they will be loaded into the >> image. > > This is completely wrong. In the above example, if Magritte was > not loaded, MASingleOptionDescription will bind to Undeclared. > Then, if Magritte is ever loaded, it will notice the reference > in Undeclared, and recompile this method to act correctly. > >> Out-of-order package loading is nice. > > Out-of-order loading, in the form of global references, has been > supported since smalltalk-76 by the Undeclared object. > > The MC1.5 orphanage supports another kind of out-of-order > loading, in addition to that supported by Undeclared. But it is > irrelavant in this example. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OB Browser "Manual"

by Rob Rothwell

Although...I was just looking for how to USE the browser, not write another one! Rob On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Great! Thank you very much! > > Rob > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi Rob, >> >> A chapter on OB will be available in "Pharo by Example". >> A draft is available on: http://www.bergel.eu/Omnibrowser.pdf >> Feel free to comment on it. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> On 3 Mar 2009, at 17:12, Rob Rothwell wrote: >> >> > Is there a guide to using the OB Browser (and associated tools for >> > that matter...debugger, etc...) anywhere? >> > >> > I KNOW I am not getting the most out of it! >> > >> > Rob >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OB Browser "Manual"

by Rob Rothwell

Great! Thank you very much! Rob On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Hi Rob, > > A chapter on OB will be available in "Pharo by Example". > A draft is available on: http://www.bergel.eu/Omnibrowser.pdf > Feel free to comment on it. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 3 Mar 2009, at 17:12, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > > Is there a guide to using the OB Browser (and associated tools for > > that matter...debugger, etc...) anywhere? > > > > I KNOW I am not getting the most out of it! > > > > Rob > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OB Browser "Manual"

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Rob, A chapter on OB will be available in "Pharo by Example". A draft is available on: http://www.bergel.eu/Omnibrowser.pdf Feel free to comment on it. Cheers, Alexandre On 3 Mar 2009, at 17:12, Rob Rothwell wrote: > Is there a guide to using the OB Browser (and associated tools for > that matter...debugger, etc...) anywhere? > > I KNOW I am not getting the most out of it! > > Rob > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] loadOBApha

by David RÃ¶thlisberger

>> - evaluate "ScriptLoader loadOBApha" in latest #10246 >> - open a new browser and use "OBPackageBrowserAdapter" >> - in the browser select a package, then a class and click on the >> "UML Diag." in the button pane >> You should see a red rectangle with a yellow cross (draing error) >> due to a DNU on nil >> It also throws an error if no package is selected and the button >> is used. I fixed those two problems. You can load the updates with 'ScriptLoader loadSuperOB'. David

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: HTTPSocket

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

2009/3/3 Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org>: > GÃ¶ran Krampe wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> What about perhaps looking at what has already been done, like: >> >> http://map.squeak.org/package/15f42ec1-e93e-4bcf-ab2b-6746ae9d413f >> http://map.squeak.org/package/8644a5ff-923c-438f-b5b0-a281de346040 > As we are here, I wonder if this is related. In the NetSqueak package [1], there is InternalSocket subclassed InternalUDPSocket and InternalTCP socket. It would be good the new implementation allows to load this package (and to have an "official" network package). Cheers [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Net.html > I used and adapted the second one IIRC. For reasons that I can't recall > right now I liked it better :-) > > Michael > > -- CÃ©drick

March 3, 2009

[Pharo-project] OB Browser "Manual"

by Rob Rothwell

Is there a guide to using the OB Browser (and associated tools for that matter...debugger, etc...) anywhere? I KNOW I am not getting the most out of it! Rob

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] loadOBApha

by David RÃ¶thlisberger

> - evaluate "ScriptLoader loadOBApha" in latest #10246 > - open a new browser and use "OBPackageBrowserAdapter" > - in the browser select a package, then a class and click on the > "UML Diag." in the button pane > You should see a red rectangle with a yellow cross (draing error) > due to a DNU on nil I can confirm this problem. Its cause is probably outside OB I think, the same code works in Squeak. I can fix it in OB though. Also note that these visualizations such as UML do not get loaded or updated with #loadOBAlpha. You probably once loaded #loadSuperOB with which you indeed get Mondrian and OB-Mondrian-Diagrams that embed these visualizations to OB. > It also throws an error if no package is selected and the button > is used. oh, yes, this is an OB problem... I will fix it. David

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] System Updates

by Rob Rothwell

Please disregard. I had a corrupted changes file. Rob On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Rob Rothwell <r.j.rothwell(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi all, > > Occasionally (stupid, I know), I just go back to the current clean image > and make sure everything works ok with updates, etc... > > Maybe I missed this, but a base 10243 is not updating anymore (see > attached), but an older image I had updated to 10244 updated just fine. > > Rob >

March 3, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] loadOBApha

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > No, just try: > > - evaluate "ScriptLoader loadOBApha" in latest #10246 > - open a new browser and use "OBPackageBrowserAdapter" > - in the browser select a package, then a class and click on the > Â "UML Diag." in the button pane I do not have this "UML Diag" button. You probably have something else loaded in your image. David may know. > Â You should see a red rectangle with a yellow cross (draing error) > Â due to a DNU on nil > > It also throws an error if no package is selected and the button > is used. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

March 3, 2009