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Re: [Pharo-project] cant squeak map

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Michael Rueger pravi: > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> But they are not the same. Universe, monticello and SM are different >> things. > I agree, and we will definitely have Universes. > > Me, personally, don't use SqueakMap at all anymore, but if people would > like to keep it in Pharo I'm fine with it. But it is important that Universes UI is then "uplifted" to be as usable as SqueakMap is. This tool is namely aimed for end users, not developers and specially newbies need to have as simple as possible way to load software. SM is close to that, Universes not. Universes has the biggest advantage to load all prerequisite packages, but lacks other things like easy search for packages, etc. Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] cant squeak map

by Michael Rueger

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > But they are not the same. Universe, monticello and SM are different > things. I agree, and we will definitely have Universes. Me, personally, don't use SqueakMap at all anymore, but if people would like to keep it in Pharo I'm fine with it. Just MTC Michael

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] cant squeak map

by Mariano Martinez Peck

But they are not the same. Universe, monticello and SM are different things. For example, MC doesn't support dependences. Universo do. I compare those three to something like this: MC: CVS, SVN, GIT or any other Source Version Control. This may be used for the developers of the source code. It may include stable and non stable code. Universe: something like apt-get and repositories. It manage dependencies. There are the most common, new and used packages. It may be used by a user of a package. Someone that just want to download a stable version and with all the dependencies of a package. SM: Like a repository where there are all the packages that has been in squeak from bigging. Cheers, Mariano On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org> wrote: > Sebastian Sastre wrote: > > > I've used a 243, updated from server and then tried to SM a couple of > packages. > > Please try a 248. > > > I found cool to put in review package installation methods for pharo. > What will > > be the pharo way to install packages? > > Through Monticello I guess. Most people are using SqueakSource.com for > their packages. > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] cant squeak map

by Michael Rueger

Sebastian Sastre wrote: > I've used a 243, updated from server and then tried to SM a couple of packages. Please try a 248. > I found cool to put in review package installation methods for pharo. What will > be the pharo way to install packages? Through Monticello I guess. Most people are using SqueakSource.com for their packages. Michael

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Unicode test II

by Michael Rueger

Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: > At Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:50:47 -0800, > Michael Rueger wrote: >> Yoshiki Ohshima wrote: >> >>> On Windows Vista in Japanese, the system seems to get the unicode >>> values from keyboard but doesn't display them correctly. For short >> Any idea why? I'm pretty sure I'm going through the correct process for >> the leading char. Is there any glyph translation needed for the >> rendering or the font import? > > - The char typed into the workspace doesn't have the leading char. Could you try if the attached patch fixes this? Thanks! Michael

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Unicode test II

by Michael Rueger

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > No :( Still having the same error. Any idea? let me know how can I help. OK, here's an additional patch (attached). Thanks for testing! Michael

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] March 2009 versions

by Damien Cassou

2009/3/11 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > Does it fail with a walkback, or is it more subtle such that one would have to dig for Ok, I've updated the universe and now it works fine for me. My VM crashed twice when I tried yesterday. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] cant squeak map

by Sebastian Sastre

> I can take a look, but didn't we plan to remove SM support anyways? > > Are you using the core or dev image? Did you load any > additional packages? > > Michael > hi Michael, I've used a 243, updated from server and then tried to SM a couple of packages. I found cool to put in review package installation methods for pharo. What will be the pharo way to install packages? sebastian

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] March 2009 versions

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Damien, Does it fail with a walkback, or is it more subtle such that one would have to dig for it? FWIW, I ran the installation on Windows with the Exupery vm. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Cassou Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:50 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] March 2009 versions On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: >> Do you have plans for a Pharo web image? > > But there are both dev and web images for all three: 3.9, 3.10 and Pharo? No, there is not yet pharo-web images because they cause problems. ScriptLoader new universalInstaller universe install: 'Seaside'. should work, but I have to try again, it failed twice yesterday. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] March 2009 versions

by Damien Cassou

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: >> Do you have plans for a Pharo web image? > > But there are both dev and web images for all three: 3.9, 3.10 and Pharo? No, there is not yet pharo-web images because they cause problems. ScriptLoader new universalInstaller universe install: 'Seaside'. should work, but I have to try again, it failed twice yesterday. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

March 11, 2009