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Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

by Adrian Lienhard

Maybe here: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/CodeSnippets. We can also create a new page on the wiki if necessary. Cheers, Adrian On Mar 16, 2009, at 23:21 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > This mail remember me something: it would be nice to have a place > (perhaps > the same of code snippets). Not only thing related to pharo, but to > squeak > in general. For example: > > - The subject of this mail (How to get the package of a class) > - How to copy to clipboard a wallback -> very useful for bug tracking. > - How to put conditional breakpoints (self haltIf:[]) > - How to put a picture as background > > and so on...I really don't know where to put information like this, > but they > can be useful for a lot of people. > > Thanks > > Mariano > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:18 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >> wrote: > >> or mostSpecificPackageOfClass: in Pharo :) >> >> stef >> >> On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> PackageOrganizer default packageOfClass: aClass >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Alain Plantec >>> <alain.plantec(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> thanks >>>> Alain >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] How to get the package of a class ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

This mail remember me something: it would be nice to have a place (perhaps the same of code snippets). Not only thing related to pharo, but to squeak in general. For example: - The subject of this mail (How to get the package of a class) - How to copy to clipboard a wallback -> very useful for bug tracking. - How to put conditional breakpoints (self haltIf:[]) - How to put a picture as background and so on...I really don't know where to put information like this, but they can be useful for a lot of people. Thanks Mariano On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:18 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > or mostSpecificPackageOfClass: in Pharo :) > > stef > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > PackageOrganizer default packageOfClass: aClass > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Alain Plantec > > <alain.plantec(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> thanks > >> Alain > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Losing click event

by David RÃ¶thlisberger

> Have you tried the following? > TransferMorph allInstances do: [:ea | ea delete] or: Utilities cleanseOtherWorldlySteppers David > from http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-December/133369… > HTH, > Adrian > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 17:17 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> No, there is no hidden morph. There is a variation in the bug, as for >> some time I need to move slighly the mouse to get the clic event >> handled. >> I remove all Morph from screen including taskbar, does not get better. >> I try with different theme >> Nothing special in the process browser, at least no process I can >> kill. >> I saw it is reported in Mantis >> http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7039 >> >> It seems the problem started to occure from a debugging session with >> seaside >> >> >> 2009/3/16 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com>: >>> Not seen that recently, since I fixed the DockingBar (if you use one) >>> layering and the putting of minimised window (invisible with >>> taskbar) well >>> offscreen. Perhaps you have an inivisble Morph around (World >>> submorphs >>> should verify). >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Hilaire Fernandes" <hilaire(a)ofset.org> >>> To: "Pharo Development" <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:17 PM >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] Losing click event >>> >>> >>>> I have something strange happening in an image. >>>> >>>> Randomly, mouse click event seems to be lost. I have to click two or >>>> three times to get the event handled. It happens anywhere in the >>>> image. >>>> Is there a way to fix that? >>>> >>>> Hilaire >>>> -- >>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi Adrian, I've tried to do some steps in this direction so here's a little cleaned exerimental image without sound, with less unimplemented calls etc.: http://comtalk.eu/public/pub/pharo/Pharo0.1Core-10248.9.zip FreeType package can be removeable, in fact it is easier to remove that TrueType. -- Pavel On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I > was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: > > - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display (are obsolete > since we have FreeType, no?) > - Services (does not seem to be used, except by a subclass in Polymorph) > - Graphics-External-Ffenestri (why is this in the image??) > - Compression (I think, does not need to be in the kernel) > - Sound (dito) > - Traits-LocalSends and Traits-Requires (are not used) > - MorphicExtras (I assume at least some of those could extracted) > - ...? > > I would put these in a repository so they can be loaded if needed. The > extraction of some of these packages likely needs some work, but would > be a first step towards a more modular kernel. > > What do others think? > > Adrian > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

by Alexandre Bergel

Never used any of them as well... Cheers, Alexandre On 16 Mar 2009, at 22:21, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I > was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: > > - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display (are obsolete > since we have FreeType, no?) > - Services (does not seem to be used, except by a subclass in > Polymorph) > - Graphics-External-Ffenestri (why is this in the image??) > - Compression (I think, does not need to be in the kernel) > - Sound (dito) > - Traits-LocalSends and Traits-Requires (are not used) > - MorphicExtras (I assume at least some of those could extracted) > - ...? > > I would put these in a repository so they can be loaded if needed. The > extraction of some of these packages likely needs some work, but would > be a first step towards a more modular kernel. > > What do others think? > > Adrian > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

by Lukas Renggli

> What do others think? Yeah, it sounds reasonable to remove those classes. Never used any of them. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

by Rob Rothwell

I've only ever worked with Sound, and when I didn't know how to do much with packages and had to make changes to the Sound package I just saved the whole thing loaded it into a new image, so I think it should be relatively straightforward to do as you suggest. However, if the Polymorph "sound" theme became part of the standard Pharo image, you would need sound, but that's the only thing I have heard people talking about. Umm...probably right with TrueType. Morphic, it seems, you just never know what it might interfere with! The rest I don't really know anything about. Then, maybe you could just publish them via any of the standard options (Universes, etc...) with a standard naming convention? Like Pharo-Sound...etc? Take care, Rob On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I > was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: > > - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display (are obsolete > since we have FreeType, no?) > - Services (does not seem to be used, except by a subclass in Polymorph) > - Graphics-External-Ffenestri (why is this in the image??) > - Compression (I think, does not need to be in the kernel) > - Sound (dito) > - Traits-LocalSends and Traits-Requires (are not used) > - MorphicExtras (I assume at least some of those could extracted) > - ...? > > I would put these in a repository so they can be loaded if needed. The > extraction of some of these packages likely needs some work, but would > be a first step towards a more modular kernel. > > What do others think? > > Adrian > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2009

[Pharo-project] Removing more classes from Pharo

by Adrian Lienhard

In quest of modularizing Pharo and reducing its memory footprint, I was wondering whether the following packages should be removed: - TrueType and related classes in Multilingual-Display (are obsolete since we have FreeType, no?) - Services (does not seem to be used, except by a subclass in Polymorph) - Graphics-External-Ffenestri (why is this in the image??) - Compression (I think, does not need to be in the kernel) - Sound (dito) - Traits-LocalSends and Traits-Requires (are not used) - MorphicExtras (I assume at least some of those could extracted) - ...? I would put these in a repository so they can be loaded if needed. The extraction of some of these packages likely needs some work, but would be a first step towards a more modular kernel. What do others think? Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by Rob Rothwell

Yes... Preferences resetHaloSpecifications "works," but notice that when selecting a "plain old" Morph (like Morph new), it is overwritten by the background color... Rob On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Ok I got it and I opened an issue. > > Stef > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > > > Not one of mine... > > The halo item in question is the addPaintBgdHandle which is still > > present in > > the images but removed. > > Preferences resetHaloSpecifications needs to be invoked. > > > > Regards, Gary > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos > > > > > >> Once you arrive to a fix point > >> let me know what I should integrate. > >> Stef > >> > >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> > >>> I noticed the halo problem in the dev image too. Resetting the halo > >>> specs is needed since one has been removed... > >>> > >>> Regards, Gary > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: Rob Rothwell > >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:35 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos > >>> > >>> Yep...that seemed to fix it! > >>> > >>> Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World > >>> without Halos! > >>> > >>> If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my > >>> screen, so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck > >>> with it! > >>> > >>> Rob > >>> > >>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen > >>> <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no > >>>> wrote: > >>> Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution > >>> Gary suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. > >>> (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet > >>> gotten around to learn how to make slices, so > >>> BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: would have to be removed by > >>> hand..) > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Henry > >>> > >>> On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Done. > >>>> > >>>> Issues 655 > >>>> > >>>> On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of > >>>>> the "Pharo" graphic. > >>>>> > >>>>> The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you > >>>>> click somewhere else on the screen. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project________… > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok I got it and I opened an issue. Stef On Mar 16, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Gary Chambers wrote: > Not one of mine... > The halo item in question is the addPaintBgdHandle which is still > present in > the images but removed. > Preferences resetHaloSpecifications needs to be invoked. > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos > > >> Once you arrive to a fix point >> let me know what I should integrate. >> Stef >> >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: >> >>> I noticed the halo problem in the dev image too. Resetting the halo >>> specs is needed since one has been removed... >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rob Rothwell >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] World Graphics and Halos >>> >>> Yep...that seemed to fix it! >>> >>> Now if I could just figure out how to remove a Morph from the World >>> without Halos! >>> >>> If I do System->About it is so big now that it won't all fit on my >>> screen, so I can't reach the ok button to close it and I am stuck >>> with it! >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen >>> <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no >>>> wrote: >>> Attached a .cs to the issue with a fix, also including the solution >>> Gary suggested for the taskbar-issue that was reported. >>> (I don't know how to remove methods in .cs files, and haven't yet >>> gotten around to learn how to make slices, so >>> BorderedMorph>>areasRemainingToFill: would have to be removed by >>> hand..) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Henry >>> >>> On 14.03.2009 22:04, Rob Rothwell wrote: >>>> >>>> Done. >>>> >>>> Issues 655 >>>> >>>> On Mar 14, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Open up a 10250 dev image and click anywhere within the bounds of >>>>> the "Pharo" graphic. >>>>> >>>>> The world menu pops up and leaves part of itself behind when you >>>>> click somewhere else on the screen. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project________… >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2009