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Re: [Pharo-project] confirm: ... Smalltalk language conformity?

by Oscar Nierstrasz

confirm: takes a test string as argument. Not a block. This works just fine in Pharo: b := x confirm: 'Do you really want to assign an uninitialized variable x to b?' - on On Apr 25, 2009, at 8:56, Stefan Schmiedl wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 01:43:44 +0200 > stepken <stepken(a)web.de> wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> b := x confirm: [:a | (a >= 1) & (a <= 4)]. >> >> Fails in Pharo. Buggy in 3.10 > > What fails? The assignment? > > s. > >> ... hmmm, perhaps there should be >> better unit tests ... >> >> Is there any unit test out there, which tests for language >> conformity? >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Backporting function in MC

by Oscar Nierstrasz

I think I would have never used it because I didn't understand what it was for. Working out an example with the chapter you wrote helped me to understand it better. Now I am more likely to use it in future. - on On Apr 25, 2009, at 10:21, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Thanks Lukas, > > Alexandre > > > On 24 Apr 2009, at 14:38, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> I am glad you found this description useful. I am authoring a >>> chapter >>> on Monticello for PharoByExample, and there is a section dedicated >>> on >>> this functionality. However, I haven't been convinced this is a >>> feature really useful since I know no-one who used it. >> >> Avi wrote that feature at ESUG in the car somewhere between Hannover >> and KÃ¶ethen. We were discussing the implementation several times >> during that 8 hour drive. I used it a couple of times. >> >> What I find easier (because I don't have to load the other version) >> is >> to open a merge dialog with the other version and selectively pick >> some changes and click on 'Install' in the context menu. Then >> close/cancel the merge dialog and click on 'Adapt' and select the >> just >> merged version. I don't exactly know about the semantic differences >> between the two approaches, could well be that my approach ends up >> with a nightmare later on but so far it worked well for me. >> >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow image

by Alexandre Bergel

I cannot say now. Installation scripts fail. Just try in an updated 281: ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha 'Socket status must Unconnected before opening a new connection' Keystroke for Cut&paste does not work anymore. I have to go through the menu. Alexandre On 25 Apr 2009, at 09:57, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > wrote: >> My image building script runs under 10 minutes in #10281. >> When using #10292 ist more than an hour! >> >> (it loads OBAlpha, Shout, ShoutWorkspace, eCompletion, FFI, >> SS29alpha3 >> and some custom packages) >> >> So yes - I noticed a slowdown ;) > > That's strange because I didn't notice anything while building the > latest dev image. What VM are your using? Can you see error messages > if you launch the VM from the console? What if you try again now? > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Backporting function in MC

by Alexandre Bergel

Thanks Lukas, Alexandre On 24 Apr 2009, at 14:38, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> I am glad you found this description useful. I am authoring a chapter >> on Monticello for PharoByExample, and there is a section dedicated on >> this functionality. However, I haven't been convinced this is a >> feature really useful since I know no-one who used it. > > Avi wrote that feature at ESUG in the car somewhere between Hannover > and KÃ¶ethen. We were discussing the implementation several times > during that 8 hour drive. I used it a couple of times. > > What I find easier (because I don't have to load the other version) is > to open a merge dialog with the other version and selectively pick > some changes and click on 'Install' in the context menu. Then > close/cancel the merge dialog and click on 'Adapt' and select the just > merged version. I don't exactly know about the semantic differences > between the two approaches, could well be that my approach ends up > with a nightmare later on but so far it worked well for me. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow image

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > My image building script runs under 10 minutes in #10281. > When using #10292 ist more than an hour! > > (it loads OBAlpha, Shout, ShoutWorkspace, eCompletion, FFI, Â SS29alpha3 > Â and some custom packages) > > So yes - I noticed a slowdown ;) That's strange because I didn't notice anything while building the latest dev image. What VM are your using? Can you see error messages if you launch the VM from the console? What if you try again now? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SmaccDev compatibility

by Lukas Renggli

This is a problem of the ugly Morphic GUI SmaCC comes with. Unfortunately it uses BookMorph, that was removed from Pharo. I quickly patched the GUI in SmaCCDev-lr.20 to use Polymorph, it looks still ugly but at least should work. At some point we should put the GUI into a separate package and build something with OB. Cheers, Lukas 2009/4/25 FranÃ§ois Tanguy <francois.tanguy(a)gmail.com>: > Hello, > I tried to load SmaccDev into the latest pharo image > (pharo0.1-10289dev09.04.5) but it fails. See the stacktrace below. > Is SmaccDev compatible with Pharo ? > FranÃ§ois > Subject: [BUG]TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > 25 April 2009 9:01 am > VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage > Image: Pharo0.1 [Latest update: #10289] > SecurityManager state: > Restricted: false > FileAccess: true > SocketAccess: true > Working Dir /Users/paco/Desktop/workspace/Pharo/SmallLang > Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus > Untrusted Dir /Users/paco/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My Squeak > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Arguments and temporary variables: > aMessage: goToPageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) transitionSpec: nil > runTransiti...etc... > exception: MessageNotUnderstood: > TabbedPalette>>goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:ru...etc... > resumeValue: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > bounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > owner: a SystemWindow(2689) > submorphs: an Array(an IndexTabs(1173)) > fullBounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > color: Color white > extension: a MorphExtension (1950) [locked] Â [other: Â (layoutPolicy -> a > TableL...etc... > borderWidth: 0 > borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) > pageSize: 156@232 > newPagePrototype: nil > pages: an OrderedCollection(a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) a > PluggableText...etc... > currentPage: a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) > tabsMorph: an IndexTabs(1173) > Message>>sentTo: > Receiver: goToPageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) transitionSpec: nil > runTransitionScripts: true > Arguments and temporary variables: > receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Receiver's instance variables: > selector: #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > args: an Array(a Morph<Compile>(4067) nil true) > lookupClass: TabbedPalette > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Arguments and temporary variables: > aMessage: goToPageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) transitionSpec: nil > runTransiti...etc... > exception: MessageNotUnderstood: > TabbedPalette>>goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:ru...etc... > resumeValue: MessageNotUnderstood: > TabbedPalette>>goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:...etc... > Receiver's instance variables: > bounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > owner: a SystemWindow(2689) > submorphs: an Array(an IndexTabs(1173)) > fullBounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > color: Color white > extension: a MorphExtension (1950) [locked] Â [other: Â (layoutPolicy -> a > TableL...etc... > borderWidth: 0 > borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) > pageSize: 156@232 > newPagePrototype: nil > pages: an OrderedCollection(a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) a > PluggableText...etc... > currentPage: a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) > tabsMorph: an IndexTabs(1173) > TabbedPalette(BookMorph)>>goToPage:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Arguments and temporary variables: > pageNumber: 3 > transitionSpec: nil > aBoolean: true > pageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) > Receiver's instance variables: > bounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > owner: a SystemWindow(2689) > submorphs: an Array(an IndexTabs(1173)) > fullBounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > color: Color white > extension: a MorphExtension (1950) [locked] Â [other: Â (layoutPolicy -> a > TableL...etc... > borderWidth: 0 > borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) > pageSize: 156@232 > newPagePrototype: nil > pages: an OrderedCollection(a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) a > PluggableText...etc... > currentPage: a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) > tabsMorph: an IndexTabs(1173) > > --- The full stack --- > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Message>>sentTo: > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > TabbedPalette(BookMorph)>>goToPage:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Â - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > TabbedPalette(BookMorph)>>goToPageMorph:runTransitionScripts: > TabbedPalette(BookMorph)>>goToPageMorph: > TabbedPalette>>selectTab: > TabbedPalette>>selectTabNamed: > SmaCCParserGenerator>>openInWorld > SmaCCParserGenerator class>>open > SmaCCParserGenerator class>>initialize > MCMethodDefinition>>postloadOver: > [] in [] in [] in MCPackageLoader>>basicLoad > [] in [] in > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>do:displayingProgress: > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>withIndexDo: > ...etc... > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] linux version download problem

by Bryce Kampjes

On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 02:09 +0200, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: > Speaking of which, how's the work on making Exupery (the JIT, not the > VM :) ) compatible with a Closure VM going? I haven't yet started on making Exupery work with closures. I'm likely to do that after I finish the first stage of dynamic method inlining which is underway now. Progress will be slow as we've a 1 week old baby. Bryce

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] installScript

by Damien Cassou

Hi, On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Not to appear stupid, but how do you load the the installScript that >>>> comes with the current image? Or do you need to? >>> >>> That script is the script that was run to the core to generate that dev >>> image. Just to know how it was do it or what does it has installed. >>> >> >> Damien, this has been asked several times. Should we add this information in >> the website ? > > IMO it would be better to put README into .zip which explaining the > archive contents and how to use it. I'm not sure we care because this will soon disappear when Pharo got released. However, if you feel the need for such a README file in the meantime, please give me the content and I will be happy to add it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SmaccDev compatibility

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Apparently the bookmorph removal impacted Smacc UI because it used tab (which are of course subclasses of bookmorph of course!) Stef On Apr 25, 2009, at 8:07 AM, FranÃ§ois Tanguy wrote: > Hello, > > I tried to load SmaccDev into the latest pharo image > (pharo0.1-10289dev09.04.5) but it fails. See the stacktrace below. > Is SmaccDev compatible with Pharo ? > > FranÃ§ois > > Subject: [BUG]TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > > 25 April 2009 9:01 am > > VM: Mac OS - a SmalltalkImage > Image: Pharo0.1 [Latest update: #10289] > > SecurityManager state: > Restricted: false > FileAccess: true > SocketAccess: true > Working Dir /Users/paco/Desktop/workspace/Pharo/SmallLang > Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus > Untrusted Dir /Users/paco/Library/Preferences/Squeak/Internet/My > Squeak > > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Arguments and temporary variables: > aMessage: goToPageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) transitionSpec: > nil runTransiti...etc... > exception: MessageNotUnderstood: > TabbedPalette>>goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:ru...etc... > resumeValue: nil > Receiver's instance variables: > bounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > owner: a SystemWindow(2689) > submorphs: an Array(an IndexTabs(1173)) > fullBounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > color: Color white > extension: a MorphExtension (1950) [locked] [other: > (layoutPolicy -> a TableL...etc... > borderWidth: 0 > borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) > pageSize: 156@232 > newPagePrototype: nil > pages: an OrderedCollection(a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) a > PluggableText...etc... > currentPage: a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) > tabsMorph: an IndexTabs(1173) > > Message>>sentTo: > Receiver: goToPageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) transitionSpec: nil > runTransitionScripts: true > Arguments and temporary variables: > receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Receiver's instance variables: > selector: #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > args: an Array(a Morph<Compile>(4067) nil true) > lookupClass: TabbedPalette > > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Arguments and temporary variables: > aMessage: goToPageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) transitionSpec: > nil runTransiti...etc... > exception: MessageNotUnderstood: > TabbedPalette>>goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:ru...etc... > resumeValue: MessageNotUnderstood: > TabbedPalette>>goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:...etc... > Receiver's instance variables: > bounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > owner: a SystemWindow(2689) > submorphs: an Array(an IndexTabs(1173)) > fullBounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > color: Color white > extension: a MorphExtension (1950) [locked] [other: > (layoutPolicy -> a TableL...etc... > borderWidth: 0 > borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) > pageSize: 156@232 > newPagePrototype: nil > pages: an OrderedCollection(a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) a > PluggableText...etc... > currentPage: a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) > tabsMorph: an IndexTabs(1173) > > TabbedPalette > (BookMorph)>>goToPage:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Receiver: a TabbedPalette(1820) > Arguments and temporary variables: > pageNumber: 3 > transitionSpec: nil > aBoolean: true > pageMorph: a Morph<Compile>(4067) > Receiver's instance variables: > bounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > owner: a SystemWindow(2689) > submorphs: an Array(an IndexTabs(1173)) > fullBounds: 458@166 corner: 1198@513 > color: Color white > extension: a MorphExtension (1950) [locked] [other: > (layoutPolicy -> a TableL...etc... > borderWidth: 0 > borderColor: (Color r: 0.667 g: 0.667 b: 0.667) > pageSize: 156@232 > newPagePrototype: nil > pages: an OrderedCollection(a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) a > PluggableText...etc... > currentPage: a PluggableTextMorph<Scanner>(2385) > tabsMorph: an IndexTabs(1173) > > > --- The full stack --- > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > Message>>sentTo: > TabbedPalette(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #goToPageMorph:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > TabbedPalette > (BookMorph)>>goToPage:transitionSpec:runTransitionScripts: > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > TabbedPalette(BookMorph)>>goToPageMorph:runTransitionScripts: > TabbedPalette(BookMorph)>>goToPageMorph: > TabbedPalette>>selectTab: > TabbedPalette>>selectTabNamed: > SmaCCParserGenerator>>openInWorld > SmaCCParserGenerator class>>open > SmaCCParserGenerator class>>initialize > MCMethodDefinition>>postloadOver: > [] in [] in [] in MCPackageLoader>>basicLoad > [] in [] in > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>do:displayingProgress: > OrderedCollection(SequenceableCollection)>>withIndexDo: > ...etc... > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 25, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Slow image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:41 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > My image building script runs under 10 minutes in #10281. > When using #10292 ist more than an hour! this is clearly a problem, thanks to report it because I was not aware of a *5 or more. > > > (it loads OBAlpha, Shout, ShoutWorkspace, eCompletion, FFI, > SS29alpha3 > and some custom packages) > > So yes - I noticed a slowdown ;) > > Bye > T. > > > > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehÃ¶rt? Der kann`s mit > allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 25, 2009