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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] May 2009 versions

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Damien, I fired it up, added a workspace and started to drage same - complete hang. That's on linux. Any other takers? Bill

May 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Couldn't find an icon so...

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

It would be great for the VMs to have the icons. So far, I can't even get gnome to use mine. Windows probably would take the ico, but I'm trying to kick that particular addition :) Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Henrik Johansen Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:21 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Couldn't find an icon so... Schwab,Wilhelm K skrev: > Hello all, > > Sorry to have dropped out for a whlie - nothing against Pharo. I am hopefully getting ready to ramp up some "real" work on Pharo, and toward that end, have a couple of questions. The first is a trivial concern that I have partially addressed with the attached icons. All I did was take the logo and chop off the lighthouse itself. So far it has been useless to me, but perhaps you will do better with it. > I made an icon too some time ago, with just the lighthouse, no encircling O. They're attached to comment 4 in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=192 IMHO, it's a bit more recognizable at smaller dimensions than the one you sent (I did some manual work cleaning up the 16x16 one, for example), which can be nice. If I were to do it again though, I'd make a dimensions/16 pixel border on top/bottom, using all 16px high leaves list view feeling cluttered. If you plan on using ResHacker to add them to squeak.exe, read comment 5 as well :) Sorry I can't help with the second part :) Cheers, Henry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 14, 2009

[Pharo-project] Pharo/Squeak/Smalltalk party in SW of France...

by Hilaire Fernandes

Any one for such a party in SW of France ? It could come with a Pharo bug smashing party as well. Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire

May 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] OCompletion improves the accuracy of eCompletion

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Wow!!! What an excellent job! This really help us. I hope you continue with your work (although you have already finished the paper), add features and take into account the ideas others tell you. In my opinion this could be in the Pharo dev image by default. Again, congratulations for your work. Mariano On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Romain Robbes <romain.robbes(a)lu.unisi.ch>wrote: > Dear Pharo users, > > OCompletion is an extension to ECompletion. Like ECompletion, it > completes > the names of methods as you write them in order to save you some > typing. > The O in OCompletion stands for Omniscient and Omnipresent. > > OCompletion is much more accurate than ECompletion. We tested it on the > development history of several projects > (see http://www.inf.unisi.ch/phd/robbes/papers/ASE2008-completion.pdf) > > Across several hundred thousands tests of the completion, OCompletion's > algorithm scores a 70 (out of 100), while the eCompletion's algorithm > scores a 12. To achieve this level of accuracy, it learns from your > usage > of squeak and proposes to you methods you are more likely to use. > > OCompletion shows a small, non-instrusive completion menu with potential > completions as you type method names. You don't need to call it > explicitely > with tab. Just press tab to insert a match, or the down arrow to > select the next > match. > > To install it on Squeak or Pharo, simply execute the following line in > your image: > > Installer squeaksource project: 'OCompletion'; install: 'OCLoader' > > Cheers, > Romain > > -- > Romain Robbes > http://www.inf.unisi.ch/phd/robbes > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 14, 2009

[Pharo-project] Inspect it wrong shortcut

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi! With latest pharo 304 in Linux the shortcut for inspect it (ctrl + i) doesn't work but alt + i. I have evaluated Preferences enable: #swapCOntrolAndAltKeys. Actually, all the other shortcuts (browse it, do it, explore it, and so on) works with ctrl + XXX but there is a problem with inspect it. Can someone confirm this ? Cheers, Mariano

May 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] May 2009 versions

by Cameron Sanders

See World Menu -> System ... -> Preferences then select Preferences Browser. Then either select "windows" in the left-hand pane, and scroll down in the right hand one until you see "UI Theme". -cam On May 14, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > .default look&feel, close/min/max buttons > > - it would be really nice to us non-Mac users to put those buttons > just > the opposite and make their meaning more clear (X for close, etc) I > know > somewhere the skin can be changed, but in so many preferences this is > hard to find even for me, who once already switched it. This both is a > usability problem, you should seriously address it.

May 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Couldn't find an icon so...

by Henrik Johansen

Schwab,Wilhelm K skrev: > Hello all, > > Sorry to have dropped out for a whlie - nothing against Pharo. I am hopefully getting ready to ramp up some "real" work on Pharo, and toward that end, have a couple of questions. The first is a trivial concern that I have partially addressed with the attached icons. All I did was take the logo and chop off the lighthouse itself. So far it has been useless to me, but perhaps you will do better with it. > I made an icon too some time ago, with just the lighthouse, no encircling O. They're attached to comment 4 in http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=192 IMHO, it's a bit more recognizable at smaller dimensions than the one you sent (I did some manual work cleaning up the 16x16 one, for example), which can be nice. If I were to do it again though, I'd make a dimensions/16 pixel border on top/bottom, using all 16px high leaves list view feeling cluttered. If you plan on using ResHacker to add them to squeak.exe, read comment 5 as well :) Sorry I can't help with the second part :) Cheers, Henry

May 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] May 2009 versions

by Damien Cassou

2009/5/14 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: > Hi Damien, Pharo guys, Hi Janko, > Here are my observations on my Linux (openSuse 11.1, KDE): > > 1. pharo opens in a window smaller than usual, half of Preference > browser is out of borders. That's my fault. You get the window size I used when building the image. This has nothing to do with Pharo or the VM and I do not consider it as a bug but as a feature. I will try to take care of the size next time. Sorry. > -copy multiple lines from Thunderbird email client and to pharo doesn't > handle line end well. In Pharo the [] is added at the end I confirm that and this is really annoying. I guess that bug came with the unicode fixes some months ago. Could you please open a bug report? In fact, in Pharo, when text is pasted, all the new lines caracters appear as a box instead of as a new line (i.e., the text appears in just one line with boxes in the middle). -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

May 14, 2009

[Pharo-project] Couldn't find an icon so...

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, Sorry to have dropped out for a whlie - nothing against Pharo. I am hopefully getting ready to ramp up some "real" work on Pharo, and toward that end, have a couple of questions. The first is a trivial concern that I have partially addressed with the attached icons. All I did was take the logo and chop off the lighthouse itself. So far it has been useless to me, but perhaps you will do better with it. The next question is more aggressive. Having free use of underscores would be a huge help to me. There are external libraries that are littered with them, and relational databases for which the most natural (leaving aesthetics out of it - this is about simplicity). Is Gwenael's work to a point that it would be reasonable to hack it into my own image? I probably don't want to take the chance, but might consider it depending on how close the code is to be reading. I have to at least ask the question. Thanks, Bill

May 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN][Dev-Images] May 2009 versions

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Damien, Pharo guys, Here are my observations on my Linux (openSuse 11.1, KDE): 1. pharo opens in a window smaller than usual, half of Preference browser is out of borders. 2. swapMouse buttons works again, thanks for that guys! Now just the automatic platform dependent swap is missing ... 3.copy&paste: -copy multiple lines from Thunderbird email client and to pharo doesn't handle line end well. In Pharo the [] is added at the end -copy multiple lines from Pharo to Thuderbird works correctly -copy&paste between two Pharo image doesn't work well: paste multiple images to another Pharo eats line ends! 4. OB Package Browser - I really like the back/forth button and history, like on web browsers! - still a bit slow on my 3.2MHz machine - for search field, it is not quite clear when it starts searching - inplace help in search field is lost after you search something - ballon help could help explaining how to search? - autocomplete search field would be just perfect ... - or filter like search: you type some letters, after a second of delay it automatically filter out classes starting with that character. Something like that... We the web guys are spoiled with such fields, I know ... ;) 5.default look&feel, close/min/max buttons - it would be really nice to us non-Mac users to put those buttons just the opposite and make their meaning more clear (X for close, etc) I know somewhere the skin can be changed, but in so many preferences this is hard to find even for me, who once already switched it. This both is a usability problem, you should seriously address it. In overall the improvements are visible and they looks usable, but to judge that (like new organization of menus) I need to start working on Pharo a bit. Best regards Janko Damien Cassou pravi: > Hi, > > I've just uploaded new dev and web images based on > Squeak3.9.1-7075, Squeak3.10.2-7179 and Pharo0.1-10303. > > More information and download: > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st/Smalltalk/squeak-dev > Pharo-based images can be downloaded at: > http://pharo-project.org/download > > Download statistics at > http://damiencassou.dabbledb.com/publish/dev-imagesdownloads -- Janko MivÅ¡ek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

May 14, 2009