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Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Damien, Nice! I can't yet claim that it works, but it sure looks like it's up to good things. Should I have known to look for this? That's not asking you to beat me up; I'm trying to grok the (evolving?) Pharo culture. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 8:48 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:12, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader >> class :) > > That could indeed be helpful :) Actually there is one already, and it seems to work. See the wiki tab of http://www.squeaksource.com/Citezen.html -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Dave, ps2text takes pdfs????!!!!!! Thanks, Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of David T. Lewis Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:38 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking? > /usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all. Dave _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by Damien Pollet

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 12:12, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader >> class :) > > That could indeed be helpful :) Actually there is one already, and it seems to work. See the wiki tab of http://www.squeaksource.com/Citezen.html -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Helping getting pharo license-clean

by Rob Rothwell

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:43 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Hi rob > > you are in the list of ok commiters Great; thanks... > now when I run the script I did not add the pharoers to the list of > authors. > I should do that. Make sense! Now are you telling to me that you did the following steps and run it > without getting a debugger? Which steps? I just loaded the mcz and browsed the class side: The most up-to-date list of ok contributors is at http://www.squeaksource.com/311/MethodAuthorship-kph.17.mcz See the class-side methods in Authorship, category data > > On which system are you? I just checked it out in a pharo0.1-10303dev09.05.1.image updated to 10306 on Windows XP Professional and everything loaded fine... Take care, Rob > On May 15, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Rob Rothwell wrote: > > > I tried to see if my signature is filed; I was quite excited to send > > postage all the way to France, but do not see my name in the > > signature list, or anywhere for that matter...but (unfortunately), > > "RobRothwell" shows up, for example, in Class > > DisplayScreen>>fullScreenOn... > > > > Rob > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:55 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > > wrote: > > Hi all (and matthew we need your guidance/help) > > > > We really want to get pharo 1.0 license clean. It would be bad that > > 1.0 is not. > > But 1.0 should get out before summer. > > > > Here is a collection of all the information I collected on the topic: > > > > Here what matthew wrote > > > > I've done the first step and done a full audit, using Yoshiki's > > tools [1], of all the code > > in Squeak 3.10.2, with the exception of four packages: > > - Monticello > > - SUnit, TestRunner, and SUnitImproved > > - Universes > > - Traits > > > > I also applied all of yoshiki's etoys changes to 3.10.2. The > > algorithm that Yoshiki seemed to follow when cleaning etoys is: > > - If the method can be easily deleted, delete it > > - Otherwise, use the historical image [1] to revert to the > > latest version before the problematic author > > - Fix any bugs this causes > > > > I think we can use the same procedure. Perhaps Yoshiki will > > comment. > > > > So, to help with the relicense, grab the historical image[1], > > check out the license audit [2], leave a note on mantis about > > what you think you'll work on, and start rolling out change > > sets. For your convenience, all of the license audits are > > included both in the relicensing tools download and on mantis. > > I'll try to keep both up to date as we progress with the > > relicense > > > > [1] The tools I've been using to do the relicense: > > http://ftp.squeak.org/4.0alpha/squeak4.0- > > relicensingTools.zip > > see also: > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2008-September/13158… > > http://www.squeaksource.com/MethodAuthorship.html > > > > [2] The 4.0 relicense mantis issue: > > http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=6989 > > > > > > The most up-to-date list of ok contributors is at > > http://www.squeaksource.com/311/MethodAuthorship-kph.17.mcz > > See the class-side methods in Authorship, category data > > > > > > here is another email from matthew > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:10:12AM +0200, stephane ducasse wrote: > > > I need your guidance for the MIT conversion effort of Pharo > > > Do you have some cycles to help me and telling me how to proceed? > > > I'm on holidays (so working remotely so I may allocate some time on > > > that). > > > > I can help you after school gets out in a week. I need to > > do a quick count of how many lines of code need to be fixed in > > squeak for submission to SFLC. I can do the same for Pharo. I > > don't know how strenuous you want to be in your license > > conversion. > > > > The next 3 steps in the license conversion process are, in no > > particular order: > > > > - get a document from yoshiki documenting how etoys was > > relicensed (and, by extension, cuis). The board will overview > > it with the help of SFLC and determine if it is good enough. > > - The board will publish a statement about what is and is not a > > trivial-enough change to ignore. > > - I will count up the lines of code to be converted, and > > determine how many of them are trivial and non-trivial > > > > You should chat with Randal Schwartz about what you need to > > decide before you can start relicensing, and what you need to > > document in case your relicense needs to be reviewed in the > > future. Yoshiki and Juan did not do this and thus we have no > > evidence yet that Yoshiki's relicense is strong enough. > > > > I documented the priorities for squeak 4.0 in this email: > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2009-February/134083… > > > > You should probably figure out your priorities for the relicense > > as well, so you know whose standards you need to meet. > > > > Since that email was written, Randal has indeed heard back from > > SFLC, but I haven't heard what they had to say yet. > > > > -- > > Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] vw inspired gui tool

by Steve Wirts

Dale, I'd like to provide a new checkbox on a menu item for the Explorer tool, only if the root is a Morph. The checkbox (if enabled) would set the explorer tree to be only child morphs, not all properties. Then a slightly different menu that would include flash, explore, insepect, browse hierarchy. I'm sure I could figure something out and getting it working but probably wouldn't do it properly the first go round. Any hints at where to start would be usefull. Thanks. steve On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Dale Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemstone.com>wrote: > > ----- "Steve Wirts" <stevewirts(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > | Stef, > | > | Only submorphs, the gui hierarchy are shown, this is a really useful > | capability when trying to understand deeply nested complex gui > | structures. > | I suppose we could put a toggle button on a menu option on explorer to > | turn > | on differernt tree-paths to show as the sub-children. > | > | I will try to do that. > | > | thanks > | steve > > Steve, > > Not sure if this applies or not. But the OT inspectors (regular inspector > and chasing inspector) allow for one to provide custom inspectors on a class > by class basis (even the ability to provide multiple views)... > > If that's what you're getting at, I can give you more information about > what it takes to extend the inspector. > > Dale > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by David T. Lewis

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 05:10:40AM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > I really like LaTeX's abilty to create new environments, markup, etc. What do you do for spell checking? > /usr/bin/ps2text may be of some help. Run your pdf (or ps) output through ps2text, then spell check the flat text file. It's not as nice as a built in spell checker, but maybe better than none at all. Dave

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Damien, Queue head-slap.wav :) I'll dig around. However, I have the other problem, specifically I have a .bib that I want to convert to RIS for benefit of Bibus. On first glance, I don't see that one but will try again. Thanks! Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Damien Pollet Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 5:12 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:26, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Damien will reply. > I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image > for now. > After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader > class :) That could indeed be helpful :) About RIS input, I suppose it's possible but at the moment there is no such parser. Also I suspect that RIS and BibTeX define different data models, so we'd need a common metamodel to parse to. IMHO the easiest for now is to translate RIS to .bib using one of the existing non-smalltalk tools (I can't give names from the top of my head, but google should). As for working with word, I think it's possible to import or copy-paste html, so you'd just need a trivial wrapper around citezen to ensure that it outputs a complete html page. > > On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Stef, >> >> **DUMB** question. Â I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened >> monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. Â That >> much makes sense tome. Â But it is at this point that I fall apart in >> understanding MC. Â What is the correct way to load the code? >> >> Pathetically yours<g>, >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX >> >> did you check citezen? >> >> On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and >>> even code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of >>> you have Pharo code to read the RIS format? >>> >>> I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking >>> at Bibus and OpenOffice. Â I have a lot of data in .bib to try to >>> import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but >>> there is evidence it correctly understand RIS. >>> >>> Any help appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Bil >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Inspect it wrong shortcut

by Adrian Lienhard

In 10303 on the Mac VM the shortcuts seem consistent. What version and VM are you using? Adrian On May 15, 2009, at 20:54 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com > >wrote: > >> 2009/5/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >>> Can someone confirm this ? >> >> This is fixed in recent versions. >> > > Are you sure? It still doesn't work for me. Note that inspect it is > the only > one that doesn't work. It seems that inspect is inverse to all the > other. > When the rest of the shortcuts work with ctrl, inspect it work with > alt and > viceversa. > > Greetings, > > Mariano > > >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> popular by not having them." James Iry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by Damien Pollet

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:26, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Damien will reply. > I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image > for now. > After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader > class :) That could indeed be helpful :) About RIS input, I suppose it's possible but at the moment there is no such parser. Also I suspect that RIS and BibTeX define different data models, so we'd need a common metamodel to parse to. IMHO the easiest for now is to translate RIS to .bib using one of the existing non-smalltalk tools (I can't give names from the top of my head, but google should). As for working with word, I think it's possible to import or copy-paste html, so you'd just need a trivial wrapper around citezen to ensure that it outputs a complete html page. > > On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Stef, >> >> **DUMB** question. Â I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened >> monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. Â That >> much makes sense tome. Â But it is at this point that I fall apart in >> understanding MC. Â What is the correct way to load the code? >> >> Pathetically yours<g>, >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX >> >> did you check citezen? >> >> On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even >>> code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have >>> Pharo code to read the RIS format? >>> >>> I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking >>> at >>> Bibus and OpenOffice. Â I have a lot of data in .bib to try to import >>> into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but there >>> is >>> evidence it correctly understand RIS. >>> >>> Any help appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Bil >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

May 16, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, Ok, so it sounds like it's not dirt-simple. That actually makes me feel a little better. I will egerly await his reply to help me get started. Thanks! Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 3:27 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX Damien will reply. I think that since he uses seaside canvas. You should use a pier image for now. After with enough pressure I'm sure that he can do a CitezenLoader class :) On May 16, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > **DUMB** question. I found citezen on SqueakSource, opened > monitcello, created a respository and have access to the code. That > much makes sense tome. But it is at this point that I fall apart in > understanding MC. What is the correct way to load the code? > > Pathetically yours<g>, > > Bill > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 2:11 AM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [OT] RIS vs. BibTeX > > did you check citezen? > > On May 16, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Sorry for the OT post, but some of you have BibTeX interests and even >> code(!!!), so I thought it would smart to ask whether any of you have >> Pharo code to read the RIS format? >> >> I am getting sufficient pressure away from LaTeX, that I am looking >> at Bibus and OpenOffice. I have a lot of data in .bib to try to >> import into Bibus, which appears to be buggy with respect to to, but >> there is evidence it correctly understand RIS. >> >> Any help appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Bil >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 16, 2009