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Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

good that you raised the level :) Stef On May 22, 2009, at 12:24 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Thanks a lot, that worked fine. > > So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold for > menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use Helvetica > Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code where I > use Monaco: > > menuFont := LogicalFont > familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > pointSize: 9 > stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > titleFont := LogicalFont > familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > pointSize: 14 > stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. > defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9. > Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. > Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. > Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. > Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. > Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. > Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. > Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont. > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote: > >> Hi >> >> >>> From: girba(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify >> in a >>> script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can anyone >> help? >> >> >> codeFont := LogicalFont >> familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' >> pointSize: 9 >> stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) >> weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) >> slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). >> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >> >> Cheers, >> Andy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>> >>>> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo >> core >>>> and run the script I posted. >>>> >>>> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? >>>> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot? >>>> >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> this is strange because I get a blurry result. >>>>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the >> 10309dev >>>>> and >>>>> the VM has the FT2plugin >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida >>>>>> Grande and Monaco: >>>>>> >>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. >>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. >>>>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. >>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' >> pointSize: 10. >>>>>> >>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>> >>>>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to >> decrease >>>>>> the >>>>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With >> the >>>>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Adrian >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in >> Pharo >>>>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously >>>>>>> expressed there: >>>>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code >>>>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage >>>>>>> code >>>>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN >>>>>>> AWAY. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default >>>>>>>> means >>>>>>>> ok >>>>>>>> for license and >>>>>>>> work on platforms.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts >> even >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> they are proprietary. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) >>>>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress >> girls :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. >>>>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' >> pointSize: >>>>>>>> 9. >>>>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' >> pointSize: 11. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >> project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

May be contact the developers to know. May be this is not a lot of work to have a running version in pharo. stef On May 22, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote: > I'm really sorry to hear it is no longer being maintained. > It was a necessary package to connect to properly set up Postgres > databases, that requiere sending password hashes with SHA-1. We > will probably face this kind of need when interacting with the > outside world in general. > It was a fantastic package, I wonder why the maintainers droped it. > I suppose maintaining crypto frameworks up to date, with no > vulnerabilities, is a lot of work. > Sorry for venting out my sadnes to the list. > Cheers > > r. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse > Sent: 22 May 2009 11:08 > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo > > Ok I thought the cryptology package was working well and maintained. > > Stef > > On May 22, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Agreed: I mentioned both curl and OpenSSL - we should embrace both. >> AFACT, the cryptography package is a thing of the past, and we >> should look to active projects. Tell me where I'm wrong, please. >> >> Another reality, fair or not: if we were to take on the enormous >> burden of maintaining the cypto package, there would always be >> questions about security holes we left open. The same will be true >> of OpenSSL, but there is (not always fair) credibility in numbers >> widely known projects. There will be would-be users of Pharo who >> will want OpenSSL for its reputation, and who would question a home- >> grown solution. >> >> Bill >> >> >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of Fernando olivero >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:20 AM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo >> >> >> Just a comment, >> >> you could use the new AlienFFI framework to comunicate with curl. >> Or reify any C library you want in Pharo. >> >> Fernando >> >> >> On May 22, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> >>> The most recent post on the crytography mailing list starts out as >>> follows: >>> >>> Since the Cryptography Team doesn't exists anymore, the >>> Cryptography package is not maintained by anyone. The SSL >>> implementation doesn't allow easy debugging, you can't just turn on >>> logging to see what's happening. Following the state machine >>> transitions should give you the answer why the handshake isn't >>> succeding. It might be related to certificates or TLS->SSL3 >>> fallback. If I were you, I would go with curl. >>> I think it is time to write a wrapper around open SSL in addition >>> to looking at the curl plugin. Trying to write cryptography code >>> from scratch and get and keep it right is a huge effort, and pretty >>> avoidable, and IMHO, better avoided by letting others do the job. >>> Ever read Sun Tzu? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck >>> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:51 PM >>> To: Pharo Development >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo >>> >>> I don't know if there is anyone of the developers of the package >>> Cryptography but is someone is willing to do the port of it to >>> Pharo? Most tests are break and it seems not to work because lots >>> of Cryptography methods where in classes like SmallInteger and >>> these methods were removed in Pharo. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Mariano >>> <ATT00001.txt> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and > conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of > securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, > confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, > available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Andrew, Thanks for the note. I think its not that important. I like the mono-spaced DejaVu font as well, and it does not have that large line spacing. Cheers, Adrian On May 22, 2009, at 11:22 , Andrew Tween wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > > > The LogicalFont's realFont is set to nil when the image is saved, so > your tweaked line height will be lost next time the image opens. > > > > You could run the script each time the image starts. > > Or, we would have to find a place to store these values and apply > them automatically each time a LogicalFont gets assigned a realFont. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > >> From: adi(a)netstyle.ch >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:50:18 +0200 >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration >> >> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida >> Grande and Monaco: >> >> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. >> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. >> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. >> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >> >> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >> >> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease the >> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the >> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. >> >> Adrian >> >> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> >>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo >>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. >>> >>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously >>> expressed there: >>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code >>> -Code with Dedavu mono >>> >>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage code >>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. >>> >>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN >>> AWAY. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default means >>>> ok >>>> for license and >>>> work on platforms.... >>>> >>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even if >>>> they are proprietary. >>>> >>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) >>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :) >>>> >>>> >>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. >>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: >>>> 9. >>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11. >>>> >>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>> >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _________________________________________________________________ > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos â Free. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/___________________________… > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by Adrian Lienhard

This does not look blurry in my eyes (slightly better than the first screenshot, which seems not having subpixel-AA due to the missing BitBlt plugin). Adrian On May 22, 2009, at 11:22 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > with the bitblt > > <Picture 5.pdf> > > > > On May 22, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > >> Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo core >> and run the script I posted. >> >> Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? >> Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot? >> >> Adrian >> >> On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> this is strange because I get a blurry result. >>> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev >>> and >>> the VM has the FT2plugin >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >>> >>>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida >>>> Grande and Monaco: >>>> >>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. >>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. >>>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. >>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >>>> >>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>> >>>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease >>>> the >>>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the >>>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. >>>> >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo >>>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. >>>>> >>>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously >>>>> expressed there: >>>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code >>>>> -Code with Dedavu mono >>>>> >>>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage >>>>> code >>>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. >>>>> >>>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN >>>>> AWAY. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>> >>>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default >>>>>> means >>>>>> ok >>>>>> for license and >>>>>> work on platforms.... >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts >>>>>> even if >>>>>> they are proprietary. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) >>>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. >>>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: >>>>>> 9. >>>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: >>>>>> 11. >>>>>> >>>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stef >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by Tudor Girba

Thanks a lot, that worked fine. So, I list below my settings. I use Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold for menus and window title. Because I use it there, I also use Helvetica Neue regular for the rest of the items, except for the code where I use Monaco: menuFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9 stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 14 stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 8. defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' pointSize: 9. Preferences setSystemFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setListFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setFlapsFontTo: menuFont. Preferences setHaloLabelFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setMenuFontTo: menuFont. Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. Preferences setBalloonHelpFontTo: defaultFont. Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. Preferences setButtonFontTo: defaultFont. Cheers, Doru On 22 May 2009, at 11:05, Andrew Tween wrote: > Hi > > > > From: girba(a)iam.unibe.ch > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:19:44 +0200 > > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to give my script, but I do not know how to specify > in a > > script that I want 'Helvetica Neue' - 'Condensed Bold'. Can anyone > help? > > > codeFont := LogicalFont > familyName: 'Helvetica Neue' > pointSize: 9 > stretchValue: (LogicalFont stretchCondensed) > weightValue: (LogicalFont weightBold) > slantValue: (LogicalFont slantNormal). > Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > Cheers, > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On 22 May 2009, at 09:56, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > > > Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo > core > > > and run the script I posted. > > > > > > Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? > > > Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot? > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > > > >> this is strange because I get a blurry result. > > >> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the > 10309dev > > >> and > > >> the VM has the FT2plugin > > >> > > >> Stef > > >> > > >> > > >> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida > > >>> Grande and Monaco: > > >>> > > >>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. > > >>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. > > >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. > > >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. > > >>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' > pointSize: 10. > > >>> > > >>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. > > >>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > > >>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > >>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > > >>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > > >>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > > >>> > > >>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to > decrease > > >>> the > > >>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With > the > > >>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. > > >>> > > >>> Adrian > > >>> > > >>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in > Pharo > > >>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. > > >>>> > > >>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously > > >>>> expressed there: > > >>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code > > >>>> -Code with Dedavu mono > > >>>> > > >>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage > > >>>> code > > >>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. > > >>>> > > >>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN > > >>>> AWAY. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > >>>>> Hi guys > > >>>>> > > >>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default > > >>>>> means > > >>>>> ok > > >>>>> for license and > > >>>>> work on platforms.... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts > even > > >>>>> if > > >>>>> they are proprietary. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) > > >>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress > girls :) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. > > >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' > pointSize: > > >>>>> 9. > > >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' > pointSize: 11. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. > > >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. > > >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. > > >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. > > >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. > > >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Stef > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > > >>>>> project > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Pharo-project mailing list > > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > project > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow." > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > " Upgrade to Internet Explorer 8 Optimised for MSN. 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May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo

by Ramiro Diaz Trepat

I'm really sorry to hear it is no longer being maintained. It was a necessary package to connect to properly set up Postgres databases, that requiere sending password hashes with SHA-1. We will probably face this kind of need when interacting with the outside world in general. It was a fantastic package, I wonder why the maintainers droped it. I suppose maintaining crypto frameworks up to date, with no vulnerabilities, is a lot of work. Sorry for venting out my sadnes to the list. Cheers r. -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse Sent: 22 May 2009 11:08 To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo Ok I thought the cryptology package was working well and maintained. Stef On May 22, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Agreed: I mentioned both curl and OpenSSL - we should embrace both. > AFACT, the cryptography package is a thing of the past, and we > should look to active projects. Tell me where I'm wrong, please. > > Another reality, fair or not: if we were to take on the enormous > burden of maintaining the cypto package, there would always be > questions about security holes we left open. The same will be true > of OpenSSL, but there is (not always fair) credibility in numbers > widely known projects. There will be would-be users of Pharo who > will want OpenSSL for its reputation, and who would question a home- > grown solution. > > Bill > > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of Fernando olivero > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:20 AM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo > > > Just a comment, > > you could use the new AlienFFI framework to comunicate with curl. > Or reify any C library you want in Pharo. > > Fernando > > > On May 22, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> The most recent post on the crytography mailing list starts out as >> follows: >> >> Since the Cryptography Team doesn't exists anymore, the >> Cryptography package is not maintained by anyone. The SSL >> implementation doesn't allow easy debugging, you can't just turn on >> logging to see what's happening. Following the state machine >> transitions should give you the answer why the handshake isn't >> succeding. It might be related to certificates or TLS->SSL3 >> fallback. If I were you, I would go with curl. >> I think it is time to write a wrapper around open SSL in addition >> to looking at the curl plugin. Trying to write cryptography code >> from scratch and get and keep it right is a huge effort, and pretty >> avoidable, and IMHO, better avoided by letting others do the job. >> Ever read Sun Tzu? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:51 PM >> To: Pharo Development >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo >> >> I don't know if there is anyone of the developers of the package >> Cryptography but is someone is willing to do the port of it to >> Pharo? Most tests are break and it seems not to work because lots >> of Cryptography methods where in classes like SmallInteger and >> these methods were removed in Pharo. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mariano >> <ATT00001.txt> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project This email is confidential and subject to important disclaimers and conditions including on offers for the purchase or sale of securities, accuracy and completeness of information, viruses, confidentiality, legal privilege, and legal entity disclaimers, available at http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures/email.

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok I thought the cryptology package was working well and maintained. Stef On May 22, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Agreed: I mentioned both curl and OpenSSL - we should embrace both. > AFACT, the cryptography package is a thing of the past, and we > should look to active projects. Tell me where I'm wrong, please. > > Another reality, fair or not: if we were to take on the enormous > burden of maintaining the cypto package, there would always be > questions about security holes we left open. The same will be true > of OpenSSL, but there is (not always fair) credibility in numbers > widely known projects. There will be would-be users of Pharo who > will want OpenSSL for its reputation, and who would question a home- > grown solution. > > Bill > > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of Fernando olivero > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:20 AM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo > > > Just a comment, > > you could use the new AlienFFI framework to comunicate with curl. > Or reify any C library you want in Pharo. > > Fernando > > > On May 22, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> The most recent post on the crytography mailing list starts out as >> follows: >> >> Since the Cryptography Team doesn't exists anymore, the >> Cryptography package is not maintained by anyone. The SSL >> implementation doesn't allow easy debugging, you can't just turn on >> logging to see what's happening. Following the state machine >> transitions should give you the answer why the handshake isn't >> succeding. It might be related to certificates or TLS->SSL3 >> fallback. If I were you, I would go with curl. >> I think it is time to write a wrapper around open SSL in addition >> to looking at the curl plugin. Trying to write cryptography code >> from scratch and get and keep it right is a huge effort, and pretty >> avoidable, and IMHO, better avoided by letting others do the job. >> Ever read Sun Tzu? >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr >> ] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck >> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:51 PM >> To: Pharo Development >> Subject: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo >> >> I don't know if there is anyone of the developers of the package >> Cryptography but is someone is willing to do the port of it to >> Pharo? Most tests are break and it seems not to work because lots >> of Cryptography methods where in classes like SmallInteger and >> these methods were removed in Pharo. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mariano >> <ATT00001.txt> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Agreed: I mentioned both curl and OpenSSL - we should embrace both. AFACT, the cryptography package is a thing of the past, and we should look to active projects. Tell me where I'm wrong, please. Another reality, fair or not: if we were to take on the enormous burden of maintaining the cypto package, there would always be questions about security holes we left open. The same will be true of OpenSSL, but there is (not always fair) credibility in numbers widely known projects. There will be would-be users of Pharo who will want OpenSSL for its reputation, and who would question a home-grown solution. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Fernando olivero Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 4:20 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo Just a comment, you could use the new AlienFFI framework to comunicate with curl. Or reify any C library you want in Pharo. Fernando On May 22, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: The most recent post on the crytography mailing list starts out as follows: Since the Cryptography Team doesn't exists anymore, the Cryptography package is not maintained by anyone. The SSL implementation doesn't allow easy debugging, you can't just turn on logging to see what's happening. Following the state machine transitions should give you the answer why the handshake isn't succeding. It might be related to certificates or TLS->SSL3 fallback. If I were you, I would go with curl. I think it is time to write a wrapper around open SSL in addition to looking at the curl plugin. Trying to write cryptography code from scratch and get and keep it right is a huge effort, and pretty avoidable, and IMHO, better avoided by letting others do the job. Ever read Sun Tzu? Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:51 PM To: Pharo Development Subject: [Pharo-project] Port of Cryptography to Pharo I don't know if there is anyone of the developers of the package Cryptography but is someone is willing to do the port of it to Pharo? Most tests are break and it seems not to work because lots of Cryptography methods where in classes like SmallInteger and these methods were removed in Pharo. Regards, Mariano <ATT00001.txt>

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Damien our cool typo freak could you provide some really nice combination for Pharo on mac I would love to have a menu with - hyper cool look - teeky - ... You see what I mean. STfe On May 22, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Damien Pollet wrote: > 2009/5/22 Benjamin Pollack <benjamin.pollack(a)gmail.com>: >> This is actually confusing me, too. My favorite coding font by far >> is >> Consolas, a proprietary Microsoft font that ships with Vista and >> newer >> versions of Office. (Hey, give me a break; once every 30 years, >> they're >> allowed to get something right.) > > +1 for consolas, it's as good as monaco but has true italics and bold. > > BTW if you get display problems with it on macs, there is a hack to > fix it: > http://gist.github.com/79238 > > Lucida Grande is nice but it lacks an italic, which is needed in MC > and OBâ¦ > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] call for hypercool fonts configuration

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

with the bitblt On May 22, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Hm, they look perfect on my machine. I just took a 10310 Pharo core > and run the script I posted. > > Do you have the BitBlt plugin added to the VM? > Are the DejaVu fonts blurry as well? Can you post a screenshot? > > Adrian > > On May 21, 2009, at 23:30 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> this is strange because I get a blurry result. >> Should I have a specific package loaded: I tried with the 10309dev >> and >> the VM has the FT2plugin >> >> Stef >> >> >> On May 21, 2009, at 10:50 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >>> On Mac, I like the following "special" configuration with Lucida >>> Grande and Monaco: >>> >>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Monaco' pointSize: 9. >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedAscent' put: 12. >>> codeFont realFont instVarNamed: 'cachedHeight' put: 15. >>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Lucida Grande' pointSize: 10. >>> >>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>> >>> Note, I manually tweak the font description of Monaco to decrease >>> the >>> line height (don't know why it is that high by default). With the >>> above, it looks more like in TextMate for example. >>> >>> Adrian >>> >>> On May 21, 2009, at 10:55 , Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, anythinks related to look'nd feel and overal design in Pharo >>>> could help a lot to make people to LOVE Pharo or to RUN AWAY. >>>> >>>> Regarding fonts, I found myself sharing the point previously >>>> expressed there: >>>> -Dejavu Sans for all but code >>>> -Code with Dedavu mono >>>> >>>> The issue about Freetype efficiency, related to submorph damage >>>> code >>>> related previsouly, is of equal importance. >>>> >>>> If the user experience is ungood -- slowness -- people will RUN >>>> AWAY. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/5/21 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> >>>>> on one hand we should have a good default for fonts - default >>>>> means >>>>> ok >>>>> for license and >>>>> work on platforms.... >>>>> >>>>> Now I would LOVE to get a list of cool combination of fonts even >>>>> if >>>>> they are proprietary. >>>>> >>>>> So I hope that I woke the designer in you :) >>>>> Send snippets in the following forms that we can impress girls :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> font := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans' pointSize: 10. >>>>> codeFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Sans Mono' pointSize: >>>>> 9. >>>>> titleFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'DejaVu Serif' pointSize: 11. >>>>> >>>>> Preferences setListFontTo: font. >>>>> Preferences setMenuFontTo: font. >>>>> Preferences setCodeFontTo: codeFont. >>>>> Preferences setButtonFontTo: font. >>>>> Preferences setSystemFontTo: font. >>>>> Preferences setWindowTitleFontTo: titleFont. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 22, 2009