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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 832

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On May 27, 2009, at 8:03 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > That would be nice for a temporary measure at least, because the > performance really has suffered. Assuming you roll back, would it > be enough to update my 10303 image? To rollback I will just issue a new update. sorry for the problem one my machine I did not notice it. Stef > > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr > ] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse > Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:44 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 832 > > Thanks for reporting. > Henrik? > I could rollback the changes. > > Stef > > On May 27, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > >> Performance of UI seems poor after 832 integration. >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=832 >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] How To build exupery?

by Bryce Kampjes

On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 20:39 +0200, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz wrote: > I downloaded but I suppose a make install or something like this is > needed, to put all files and plugins in the rigth place. What are you trying to do? The VM's include a pre-built squeak executable, just execute that. There's also some source tarballs but they aren't recommended because most people should either build from VMMaker (real source) or use a pre-compiled VM. I supply the source packages because they were asked for and there are a few legitimate uses for them. Bryce

May 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] allObjectsDo: broken

by Adrian Lienhard

SystemNavigation default allObjectsDo: [ :e ] ...never terminates. At least since this is broken since #10268cl. Version #10263 was still working. The suspect are new closures (I guess, creating new context instances while iterating over all objects)... http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=851 Adrian

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10318 with antialiased fonts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Upload where? The OB tools are not part of Pharo-core, Sorry. You are totally right. > so we cannot > patch it there. Hence this really needs to go to the OB repository > from which Damien creates Pharo images. I don't know much about OB and > who maintains it, so could somebody tell us what the right way to get > patches integrated is? > > Cheers, > Adrian > > > On May 27, 2009, at 22:17 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > What we could do is to upload both quick workaround (the one Nico > > did for > > the debugger) and the one of creating the method isClassNode which > > returns > > false. Obviously this is temporal till the real fix arrives. The > > ticket > > won't be closed. > > > > Then we add a comment in the ticket that says "to reproduce this, > > remove > > isClassNode method and do a right click on the code ....". > > > > I think this will help Pharo users. > > > > Cheers, > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > > wrote: > > > >> Thanks. > >> No let's hope some OB maintainer picks it up... > >> > >> Adrian > >> > >> On May 27, 2009, at 21:17 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > >> > >>> Ready. > >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=849 > >>> > >>> Nicolas > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Nicolas, > >>>> > >>>> Could you open an issue in the tracker? This would significantly > >>>> decrease the risk that the bug gets forgotten. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Adrian > >>>> > >>>> On May 27, 2009, at 20:05 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Hi. > >>>>> I recently download the new 10318 development image and it seems > >>>>> the > >>>>> OBTextSelection>>isClassNode MNU is not fixed yet. > >>>>> (See > >>>>> > >>>> > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-May/008782.html) > >>>>> I just want to remind it for you to fix it because it would be a > >>>>> really pity > >>>>> to release a version with such a silly error. > >>>>> Thanks and excellent work. > >>>>> Nicolas > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Damien Cassou < > >> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Simon Denier < > Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> Yes, installing ECompletionOmniBrowser before OCompletion > >>>>>>> should do > >>>>>>> the trick. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Could you please check Romain and tell me so that I can update > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> script? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Damien Cassou > >>>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >>>>>> > >>>>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes > >>>>>> them > >>>>>> popular by not having them." James Iry > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > >>>>> project > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Alexandre Bergel

No real documentation for now, only email exchanges. Metacello currently works at top of MC1 and using MC2 should not be a problem. It is still early work, but looks promising. Dale is putting a great energy into it. I am experimenting with few projects I am familiar with. I will send a report to this mailing list in a few days time. Cheers, Alexandre On 27 May 2009, at 16:10, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Ahh okok. Is this documented somewhere? For example, advantages it > has compared to standard MC ? or against MC 2. Features? is it > stable or is still in development phase ? > > thanks! > > Mariano > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > A version management system built at the top of Monticello by Dale > Henrichs from Gemstone. It is a bit early to say whether it will gain > a large adoption in Pharo or not. But one single method does not hurt > much I think > > Dale, are you member of Pharo? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 27 May 2009, at 15:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > hey what's Metacello ? > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > > > wrote: > > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > > > - minor refactoring > > - added loadMetacello > > > > ISSUE 850 > > > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10318 with antialiased fonts

by Adrian Lienhard

Upload where? The OB tools are not part of Pharo-core, so we cannot patch it there. Hence this really needs to go to the OB repository from which Damien creates Pharo images. I don't know much about OB and who maintains it, so could somebody tell us what the right way to get patches integrated is? Cheers, Adrian On May 27, 2009, at 22:17 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > What we could do is to upload both quick workaround (the one Nico > did for > the debugger) and the one of creating the method isClassNode which > returns > false. Obviously this is temporal till the real fix arrives. The > ticket > won't be closed. > > Then we add a comment in the ticket that says "to reproduce this, > remove > isClassNode method and do a right click on the code ....". > > I think this will help Pharo users. > > Cheers, > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > wrote: > >> Thanks. >> No let's hope some OB maintainer picks it up... >> >> Adrian >> >> On May 27, 2009, at 21:17 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: >> >>> Ready. >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=849 >>> >>> Nicolas >>> >>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Nicolas, >>>> >>>> Could you open an issue in the tracker? This would significantly >>>> decrease the risk that the bug gets forgotten. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On May 27, 2009, at 20:05 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> I recently download the new 10318 development image and it seems >>>>> the >>>>> OBTextSelection>>isClassNode MNU is not fixed yet. >>>>> (See >>>>> >>>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-May/008782.html) >>>>> I just want to remind it for you to fix it because it would be a >>>>> really pity >>>>> to release a version with such a silly error. >>>>> Thanks and excellent work. >>>>> Nicolas >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Damien Cassou < >> damien.cassou(a)gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, installing ECompletionOmniBrowser before OCompletion >>>>>>> should do >>>>>>> the trick. >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you please check Romain and tell me so that I can update >>>>>> the >>>>>> script? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Damien Cassou >>>>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>>>> >>>>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes >>>>>> them >>>>>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10318 with antialiased fonts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

What we could do is to upload both quick workaround (the one Nico did for the debugger) and the one of creating the method isClassNode which returns false. Obviously this is temporal till the real fix arrives. The ticket won't be closed. Then we add a comment in the ticket that says "to reproduce this, remove isClassNode method and do a right click on the code ....". I think this will help Pharo users. Cheers, On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Thanks. > No let's hope some OB maintainer picks it up... > > Adrian > > On May 27, 2009, at 21:17 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > > > Ready. > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=849 > > > > Nicolas > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi Nicolas, > >> > >> Could you open an issue in the tracker? This would significantly > >> decrease the risk that the bug gets forgotten. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Adrian > >> > >> On May 27, 2009, at 20:05 , Nicolas Chillo wrote: > >> > >>> Hi. > >>> I recently download the new 10318 development image and it seems the > >>> OBTextSelection>>isClassNode MNU is not fixed yet. > >>> (See > >>> > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-May/008782.html) > >>> I just want to remind it for you to fix it because it would be a > >>> really pity > >>> to release a version with such a silly error. > >>> Thanks and excellent work. > >>> Nicolas > >>> > >>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Damien Cassou < > damien.cassou(a)gmail.com > >>>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Simon Denier <Simon.Denier(a)inria.fr > >>>> > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> Yes, installing ECompletionOmniBrowser before OCompletion > >>>>> should do > >>>>> the trick. > >>>> > >>>> Could you please check Romain and tell me so that I can update the > >>>> script? > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Damien Cassou > >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >>>> > >>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > >>>> popular by not having them." James Iry > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ahh okok. Is this documented somewhere? For example, advantages it has compared to standard MC ? or against MC 2. Features? is it stable or is still in development phase ? thanks! Mariano On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > A version management system built at the top of Monticello by Dale > Henrichs from Gemstone. It is a bit early to say whether it will gain > a large adoption in Pharo or not. But one single method does not hurt > much I think > > Dale, are you member of Pharo? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 27 May 2009, at 15:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > hey what's Metacello ? > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > > > wrote: > > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > > > - minor refactoring > > - added loadMetacello > > > > ISSUE 850 > > > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Alexandre Bergel

A version management system built at the top of Monticello by Dale Henrichs from Gemstone. It is a bit early to say whether it will gain a large adoption in Pharo or not. But one single method does not hurt much I think Dale, are you member of Pharo? Cheers, Alexandre On 27 May 2009, at 15:59, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > hey what's Metacello ? > > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > > wrote: > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > - minor refactoring > - added loadMetacello > > ISSUE 850 > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

May 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ScriptLoader>>loadMetacello

by Mariano Martinez Peck

hey what's Metacello ? On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Alexandre Bergel <Alexandre.Bergel(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Name: ScriptLoader-Alexandre_Bergel.877 > Author: Alexandre.Bergel > Time: 27 May 2009, 3:43:22 pm > UUID: 84df91c2-2efc-4cfd-8f0a-d566e9e05f73 > Ancestors: ScriptLoader-stephane_ducasse.876, ScriptLoader- > Alexandre_Bergel.861 > > - minor refactoring > - added loadMetacello > > ISSUE 850 > > Waiting in PharoInbox > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

May 27, 2009