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[Pharo-project] DNU while updating SqueakMap from the net

by Alain Plantec

new issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=865 Alain

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by Frederic Pluquet

No one click image but it works (normally :)) in any Pharo/Squeak image. It is available on SqueakSource: http://www.squeaksource.com/ObjectFinder FrÃ©d ---- FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Assistant http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Do you have a one-click image to try it out? ;-) > > 2009/6/5 Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be>: > > Hello, > > Here a list of interesting features of ObjectFinder: > > - interesting columns are always entirely displayed: if you have the last > > column partially hidden (because you scrolled on the left for some > reason), > > when this column is updated for showing new items, it is completely > shown. > > In the traditional OB, the update is performed and the last column stills > > partially hidden. > > - The fact to select an item of a previous column does not imply the > > deletion of the empty columns at its right (causing move of the current > > selected column, to fit the last column for the right side). In Object > > Finder, the right empty columns are removed only when a new right column > is > > created AND a left scroll is need. The user is so not perturbed by the > move > > of the current selected column. > > > > - the calculus of the senders of a compiled method are collected in a > forked > > process when the compiled method is inspected (and not when the user asks > > the senders). The senders are so ready to be displaying when the user > asks > > him (Inspect Object>>#= for example). > > - when you inspect implementors of a compiled method, you see the classes > > displayed according the hierarchy (with indentation for > subclasses) (Inspect > > Object>>#= for example). > > - for a compiled method, the button "M" is show the selectors used in the > > compiled method. When you select one, the selection of the selector in > the > > code of method is shown in the description while the right panel shows > the > > classes implementing this selector (with hierarchy feature obviously :)). > A > > button "S" permits to show the methods sending this selector. > > I don't know if my explanations are clear... Give me feedback if > necessary > > :) > > FrÃ©d > > ---- > > FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet > > UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) > > Assistant > > http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be> > wrote: > >> > >> Hello, > >> ObjectFinder needs some refactoring and the web site is not up to date. > I > >> hope update everything this evening. > >> For the slow move is the shift key :) (like on mac :-D) > >> FrÃ©d > >> ---- > >> FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet > >> UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) > >> Assistant > >> http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>> > >>> I guess that frederic will reply since he is reading the list and > >>> using pharo. > >>> But indeed this smooth movement would be really nice to have. > >>> He even has a slow move pressing alt like on the mac :))) > >>> Stef > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >>> >> Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you > >>> >> always understand the flow since as in the > >>> >> mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. > >>> >> > >>> >> - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. > >>> >> For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... > >>> >> Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in > >>> >> addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool > >>> >> So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and > >>> >> see > >>> >> and may be use its code in place > >>> >> of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the > >>> >> objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way > >>> >> down it would be pity not to have a look at it. > >>> > > >>> > Sounds interesting. I just wonder how this smooth scrolling is > >>> > implemented, if it uses OB all the way down. Couldn't this be > >>> > integrated with OB-Tools, that also come with various inspectors. > >>> > > >>> > Cheers, > >>> > Lukas > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Lukas Renggli > >>> > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > Pharo-project mailing list > >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by Lukas Renggli

Do you have a one-click image to try it out? ;-) 2009/6/5 Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be>: > Hello, > Here a list of interesting features of ObjectFinder: > - interesting columns are always entirely displayed: if you have the last > column partially hidden (because you scrolled on the left for some reason), > when this column is updated for showing new items, it is completely shown. > In the traditional OB, the update is performed and the last column stills > partially hidden. > - The fact to select an item of a previous column does not imply the > deletion of the empty columns at its right (causing move of the current > selected column, to fit the last column for the right side). In Object > Finder, the right empty columns are removed only when a new right column is > created AND a left scroll is need. The user is so not perturbed by the move > of the current selected column. > > - the calculus of the senders of a compiled method are collected in a forked > process when the compiled method is inspected (and not when the user asks > the senders). The senders are so ready to be displaying when the user asks > him (Inspect Object>>#= for example). > - when you inspect implementors of a compiled method, you see the classes > displayed according the hierarchy (with indentation for subclasses)Â (Inspect > Object>>#= for example). > - for a compiled method, the button "M" is show the selectors used in the > compiled method. When you select one, the selection of the selector in the > code of method is shown in the description while the right panel shows the > classes implementing this selector (with hierarchy feature obviously :)). A > button "S" permits to show the methods sending this selector. > I don't know if my explanations are clear... Give me feedback if necessary > :) > FrÃ©d > ---- > FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet > UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) > Assistant > http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> ObjectFinder needs some refactoring and the web site is not up to date. I >> hope update everything this evening. >> For the slow move is the shift key :) (like on mac :-D) >> FrÃ©d >> ---- >> FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet >> UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) >> Assistant >> http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>> I guess that frederic will reply since he is reading the list and >>> using pharo. >>> But indeed this smooth movement would be really nice to have. >>> He even has a slow move pressing alt like on the mac :))) >>> Stef >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >> Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you >>> >> always understand the flow since as in the >>> >> mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. >>> >> >>> >> - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. >>> >> For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... >>> >> Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in >>> >> addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool >>> >> So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and >>> >> see >>> >> and may be use its code in place >>> >> of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the >>> >> objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way >>> >> down it would be pity not to have a look at it. >>> > >>> > Sounds interesting. I just wonder how this smooth scrolling is >>> > implemented, if it uses OB all the way down. Couldn't this be >>> > integrated with OB-Tools, that also come with various inspectors. >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > Lukas >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Lukas Renggli >>> > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by Frederic Pluquet

Hello, Here a list of interesting features of ObjectFinder: - interesting columns are always entirely displayed: if you have the last column partially hidden (because you scrolled on the left for some reason), when this column is updated for showing new items, it is completely shown. In the traditional OB, the update is performed and the last column stills partially hidden. - The fact to select an item of a previous column does not imply the deletion of the empty columns at its right (causing move of the current selected column, to fit the last column for the right side). In Object Finder, the right empty columns are removed only when a new right column is created AND a left scroll is need. The user is so not perturbed by the move of the current selected column. - the calculus of the senders of a compiled method are collected in a forked process when the compiled method is inspected (and not when the user asks the senders). The senders are so ready to be displaying when the user asks him (Inspect Object>>#= for example). - when you inspect implementors of a compiled method, you see the classes displayed according the hierarchy (with indentation for subclasses) (Inspect Object>>#= for example). - for a compiled method, the button "M" is show the selectors used in the compiled method. When you select one, the selection of the selector in the code of method is shown in the description while the right panel shows the classes implementing this selector (with hierarchy feature obviously :)). A button "S" permits to show the methods sending this selector. I don't know if my explanations are clear... Give me feedback if necessary :) FrÃ©d---- FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Assistant http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be> wrote: > Hello, > ObjectFinder needs some refactoring and the web site is not up to date. I > hope update everything this evening. > > For the slow move is the shift key :) (like on mac :-D) > > FrÃ©d > ---- > FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet > UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) > Assistant > http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet > > > > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I guess that frederic will reply since he is reading the list and >> using pharo. >> But indeed this smooth movement would be really nice to have. >> He even has a slow move pressing alt like on the mac :))) >> Stef >> >> > >> > >> > Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you >> >> always understand the flow since as in the >> >> mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. >> >> >> >> - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. >> >> For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... >> >> Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in >> >> addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool >> >> So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and >> >> see >> >> and may be use its code in place >> >> of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the >> >> objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way >> >> down it would be pity not to have a look at it. >> > >> > Sounds interesting. I just wonder how this smooth scrolling is >> > implemented, if it uses OB all the way down. Couldn't this be >> > integrated with OB-Tools, that also come with various inspectors. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Lukas >> > >> > -- >> > Lukas Renggli >> > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by Frederic Pluquet

Hello, ObjectFinder needs some refactoring and the web site is not up to date. I hope update everything this evening. For the slow move is the shift key :) (like on mac :-D) FrÃ©d ---- FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Assistant http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:38 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > I guess that frederic will reply since he is reading the list and > using pharo. > But indeed this smooth movement would be really nice to have. > He even has a slow move pressing alt like on the mac :))) > Stef > > > > > > > Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you > >> always understand the flow since as in the > >> mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. > >> > >> - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. > >> For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... > >> Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in > >> addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool > >> So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and > >> see > >> and may be use its code in place > >> of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the > >> objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way > >> down it would be pity not to have a look at it. > > > > Sounds interesting. I just wonder how this smooth scrolling is > > implemented, if it uses OB all the way down. Couldn't this be > > integrated with OB-Tools, that also come with various inspectors. > > > > Cheers, > > Lukas > > > > -- > > Lukas Renggli > > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I guess that frederic will reply since he is reading the list and using pharo. But indeed this smooth movement would be really nice to have. He even has a slow move pressing alt like on the mac :))) Stef > > > Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you >> always understand the flow since as in the >> mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. >> >> - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. >> For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... >> Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in >> addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool >> So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and >> see >> and may be use its code in place >> of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the >> objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way >> down it would be pity not to have a look at it. > > Sounds interesting. I just wonder how this smooth scrolling is > implemented, if it uses OB all the way down. Couldn't this be > integrated with OB-Tools, that also come with various inspectors. > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by Lukas Renggli

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 7:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you > always understand the flow since as in the > mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. > > - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. > For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... > Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in > addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool > So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and see > and may be use its code in place > of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the > objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way > down it would be pity not to have a look at it. Sounds interesting. I just wonder how this smooth scrolling is implemented, if it uses OB all the way down. Couldn't this be integrated with OB-Tools, that also come with various inspectors. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ObjectFinder

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Smooth animation (this is really important for not been lost) so you always understand the flow since as in the mac finder there is a smooth scrolling but fast of the new pane. - pluggable mechanism to put extra buttons and displaying info. For example for dictionary, compiledmethods.... Frederic showed me how to integrate the result of roel typer in addition to fields and methods browsing and this is cool So my gut feeling is that you should sit with frederic at esug and see and may be use its code in place of the chasing browsing (which I cannot use at all). Since the objectFinder is 5 classes and using OB all the way down it would be pity not to have a look at it. On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> It is a really good improvement over the chasing browser. > > What is the difference to the chasing browser, other than the > underlying data model? > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

June 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Citezen loading (Rio-Kernel defect)

by Oscar Nierstrasz

Hi Bill, We're using Citezen now for parsing and rending the SCG bibliography and all our publications. http://scg.unibe.ch/publications (See Citezen-Pier.) I found the best strategy to be to split a bibtex file up into strings, one for each entry and check if parsing raises an error. When there is an error, I just print the raw string and the error msg so I can fix it. But a more robust and forgiving parser is needed. Cheers, - on On Jun 5, 2009, at 16:20, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Damien, > > I found the problem: #newForWin32 is missing the #new, so it sends > the class to do an instance's job. I fixed that, but Monitcello was > determined to undo my efforts. After a few tries at getting around > that, I realized that it should run on Linux, so I did the > installation there and then added my fix so that it should run on > win32 also. That appears to have worked. > > I find that it cannot parse my "real" .bib files, but it does seem > to handle things that I build up from entries from Google scholar. > The bib files in question are tested in the sense the LaTeX/BibTeX > are happy with them, but I have yet to try bibclean on them. Is > there any documentation or example code available? > > Bill > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

June 5, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update] #10326

by Marcus Denker

Small update: 10326 ----- - Issue 854: SystemDictionary>>recreateSpecialObjectsArray (TranslatedMethod is Undeclared) - Issue 846: Character lf in class comments - Postscript: Smalltalk recreateSpecialObjectsArray -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

June 5, 2009