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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

by Andrey Larionov

Yes, i'm using pharo. On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 14:35, Adrian Lienhard<adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Without looking at the VMMaker code I guess that this is a DNU of the > message between:and: (the currentClass in lookupMethodClass: has > pointer 4, which is the nil object, so it seems the lookup failed). To > debug this, I would look what the receiver class is (i.e., 1171660) > and then why it does not understand this message. BTW, do you also use > Pharo as the image to simulate? > > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Sep 5, 2009, at 23:28 , Andrey Larionov wrote: > >> I'm file in Fixes from Mantis, and move on, but there is another error >> occured. Im attach log for clarifiacation. >> Now i'm dive into interpreter and try to understand why it happend. >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:10, Andrey Larionov<anlarionov(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> Thanks, Guys. I'll try it later. >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:07, David T. Lewis<lewis(a)mail.msen.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to >>>> myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes. >>> >> <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] latest Pharo-dev... where are the refactoring tools?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We hope that david will be able to offer a new compatible with OB package browser. stef On Sep 6, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, > I downloaded latest pharo dev (since a few versions ago), and I noted > the changes in the browsers, to O2Browser, and droping OBEnhancement > (which was too slow, I think). > The change is cool, we have faster browsers, but now I lost all those > wonderful refactoring tools... > Is there a way I can get them back? is there a refactoring browser or > something? > > Cheers, > Esteban > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue with DisplayText and InterpreterSimulator

by Adrian Lienhard

Without looking at the VMMaker code I guess that this is a DNU of the message between:and: (the currentClass in lookupMethodClass: has pointer 4, which is the nil object, so it seems the lookup failed). To debug this, I would look what the receiver class is (i.e., 1171660) and then why it does not understand this message. BTW, do you also use Pharo as the image to simulate? Cheers, Adrian On Sep 5, 2009, at 23:28 , Andrey Larionov wrote: > I'm file in Fixes from Mantis, and move on, but there is another error > occured. Im attach log for clarifiacation. > Now i'm dive into interpreter and try to understand why it happend. > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:10, Andrey Larionov<anlarionov(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> Thanks, Guys. I'll try it later. >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 22:07, David T. Lewis<lewis(a)mail.msen.com> >> wrote: >>> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I just reassigned Mantis 6555 to >>> myself, and I'll be happy to add any VMMaker changes. >> > <PharoDebug.log>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 6, 2009

[Pharo-project] latest Pharo-dev... where are the refactoring tools?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I downloaded latest pharo dev (since a few versions ago), and I noted the changes in the browsers, to O2Browser, and droping OBEnhancement (which was too slow, I think). The change is cool, we have faster browsers, but now I lost all those wonderful refactoring tools... Is there a way I can get them back? is there a refactoring browser or something? Cheers, Esteban

Sept. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Building a VM and/or plugins

by Esteban Lorenzano

+1 for Alien on the VM :) On 2009-09-06 04:49:14 -0300, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> said: > Hi > > I was discussing with john at esug and I think that FFI or Alien > should be in the image by default. > So I imagine that it would help you to get openSLL. > This way we could get platform widgets access (with as fallback > FileList and others). > We should really think about that for 1.1 > > Of course it means that a malicious guy can overuse the plugging to > access the files... > > Stef > > On Sep 5, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> Is there a correct place to start for a Pharo VM? I do not have a >> mac; Linux is of interest and Windows is currently an obligation >> born of inertia. So far, I have found mentions of the need to put >> the sources in a conspicuous location, but I have yet to find >> whether that has happened or where to look for the code. >> >> Various hassles and some accumulated success have me increasingly >> motivated to get SSL working. I realize this will trigger some well- >> intentioned mentions of stunnel and the cryptogrpahy package, but >> OpenSSL is the answer in my case. Stunnel can be misconfigured (or >> not configured at all), and I really cannot defend the crypto >> package against anything from FUD to tough questions. IIRC, I >> couldn't even load it the last time I tried. >> >> The question then becomes whether to connect to OpenSSL via FFI/ >> Alien or to make a plugin. One absolute requirement is that the >> image not turn to stone when an address is wrong, a peer crashes, or >> a router gets unplugged w/o warning. The most obvious solution to >> me (please speak up if you disagree) is to connect/bind, read/write >> and disconnect on a connection-specific OS thread. Any insights to >> help get there would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Bill >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 6, 2009

[Pharo-project] Debugger fixes was Re: Getting Pharo 1.0 released

by Michael Roberts

Ok Eliot has applied them to the squeak trunk. I'm not near a big enough machine so I'll look later tonight but if anyone is keen please make a start. Cheers mike On Sunday, September 6, 2009, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > good idea! > would be nice that 1.0 got them > Stef > > On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:02 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > >> Hi Stef, I am waiting... he suggested I bug him ;-) which I will do >> >> cheers, >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, StÃ©phane >> Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> Did eliot issue them? >>> >>> >>> >>>> on the debugger front , Eliot has some fixes so that should move us >>>> forwards. >>>> Cheers >>>> mike >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ESUG'09 photos

by Damien Pollet

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 09:59, StÃ©phane Ducasse<stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > your pictures are really really cool! > I would like to have some of them of me and related :) Just take them, they are under the same license as SBE / PBE. Or ask me for the raw files, but that's 10MB each :) > On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Damien Pollet wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> My photos of the conference should be online and fully uploaded to >> Flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/damienpollet/collections/72157622253550888/ >> >> Feel free to reuse, comment, or contact me as needed :) >> >> -- >> Damien Pollet >> type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Damien Pollet type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet

Sept. 6, 2009

[Pharo-project] ESUG Pictures

by James Foster

http://picasaweb.google.com/WeybridgeWay/ESUG2009InBrestFrance# (Sorry for the cross-posting). Feel free to reuse, comment, or contact me as needed :) James Foster

Sept. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ESUG'09 photos

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

damien your pictures are really really cool! I would like to have some of them of me and related :) Stef On Sep 6, 2009, at 1:59 AM, Damien Pollet wrote: > Hi all, > > My photos of the conference should be online and fully uploaded to > Flickr at http://www.flickr.com/photos/damienpollet/collections/72157622253550888/ > > Feel free to reuse, comment, or contact me as needed :) > > -- > Damien Pollet > type less, do more [ | ] http://people.untyped.org/damien.pollet > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] some thoughts on coding practices.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> (a) I need really to extend or subclass InputEventSensor >> >> (1) I'm not really sure how to best add instance variables to >> InputEventSensor via MC. > > Monticello unfortunately doesn't support that. I discussed with goran because deltastream supports that. And indeed in smalltalk there was always this asymtric situation where you could add method incrementally but not state. >> (2) I wanted to make a subclass, but then discovered >> RFBServer which >> I need actually hard codes a reference to InputEventSensor versus >> saying >> InputEventHandler defaultClass (or something) -> yes not hardcoding class is a good design and it should be reinforced. >> (3) RFBEventSensor then cheefully subclasses InputEventSensor >> which >> defeats my proposed subclass, not sure how in MC I could change the >> class >> hierarcy of someone else. > > http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted/RFB-lr.13.mcz works out of the > box in any recent Pharo image. The package does not change the base > system and thus loads/unloads cleanly. > >> (b) RBSpellChecker only picks between macintosh and other, so >> adding a >> subclass for iPhone means hacking startup for RBSpellChecker, >> versus having >> the >> more standard iteration over subclasses and having them choose who >> can do >> the work. Also if it's not macintosh that does not mean it's >> iPhone, or >> windows, risc, or unix... > > I fixed this in Refactoring-Spelling-lr.7, so that the spell checker > is only initialized when it is actually used. > > It looks to me that you are using a Pharo-Dev image, but I guess you > would rather use a Pharo-Core image? Maybe the Pharo-Core image should > be placed more prominent on the download page, I've seen numerous > experienced people at ESUG downloading the "wrong" image. Yes which tells me that we should also iron pharo-dev. Stef > > Cheers, > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 6, 2009