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Re: [Pharo-project] errata for pharo by example

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Are we going to produce a pharo-by-example image as well? Em 22/09/2009 03:40, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > escreveu: You should load the PharoMorphic/DemoAndExamplePackage they should be added to pharo-dev On Sep 22, 2009, at 12:06 AM, Chris Kassopulo wrote: > pg 8 > > BouncingAtomsMorph new openInWorld > > Unknown variable: BouncingAtomsMorph > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Mutation Testing

by Nicolas Chillo

John, Thanks for the application feedback. We will take a look at those bugs. We expect to have an oficial release at soon. Thanks again and congrats for your well programed test suite ;-) Nicolas Chillo On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Hernan Wilkinson < hernan.wilkinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi John > great! so you covered all the cases!!.... it means you are a great > programmer or mutation testing is not good :-) haha. > Seriously, it is great you could try it and thank you for the report. > We will check to see if we can do something to avoid changing the memory > ceiling. > > Bye, > Hernan. > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:28 PM, John M McIntosh < > johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: > >> Although I didn't get to see the presentation on Mutation Testing at ESUG, >> I did have a chance to >> see it the following week after my XtC talk in London. At the time I had >> promised to try it out. >> >> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/mutation-testing >> >> My Fractions Calculator has 105 Sunits to confirm the keyboard state >> machine works, the calculator grammar via Smacc is sane, >> and the math results are as defined by either Wolfram Alpha, or Microsoft >> Excel rules. Actually the number of tests are 210 because they are >> subclassed for Excel, but running just the Wolfram Alpha based ones were >> sufficient to test the code base. >> >> I had two problems, one where the RBParser choked on >> #(#foo:. #bar:.) >> Oops the code really should have been #(#foo: #bar:) or {#foo:. #bar:.}, >> still it shouldn't have given a walkback. >> >> The second was that I had to increase the memory ceiling of the macintosh >> squeak carbon VM from 512MB to 1.5GB via the info.plist >> so that a recursive error situation would not make the VM run out of >> memory before the Mutation testing runtime monitor would kill the >> runaway task. >> >> As a result over the 105 SUnits it reported: >> >> It made 874 mutants, 873 got killed, 1 was terminated. >> >> Which means I don't have any head scratching this afternoon. >> >> -- >> >> =========================================================================== >> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: >> squeaker68882 >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com >> >> =========================================================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Mutation Testing

by Hernan Wilkinson

Hi John great! so you covered all the cases!!.... it means you are a great programmer or mutation testing is not good :-) haha. Seriously, it is great you could try it and thank you for the report. We will check to see if we can do something to avoid changing the memory ceiling. Bye, Hernan. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:28 PM, John M McIntosh < johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: > Although I didn't get to see the presentation on Mutation Testing at ESUG, > I did have a chance to > see it the following week after my XtC talk in London. At the time I had > promised to try it out. > > http://www.slideshare.net/esug/mutation-testing > > My Fractions Calculator has 105 Sunits to confirm the keyboard state > machine works, the calculator grammar via Smacc is sane, > and the math results are as defined by either Wolfram Alpha, or Microsoft > Excel rules. Actually the number of tests are 210 because they are > subclassed for Excel, but running just the Wolfram Alpha based ones were > sufficient to test the code base. > > I had two problems, one where the RBParser choked on > #(#foo:. #bar:.) > Oops the code really should have been #(#foo: #bar:) or {#foo:. #bar:.}, > still it shouldn't have given a walkback. > > The second was that I had to increase the memory ceiling of the macintosh > squeak carbon VM from 512MB to 1.5GB via the info.plist > so that a recursive error situation would not make the VM run out of memory > before the Mutation testing runtime monitor would kill the > runaway task. > > As a result over the 105 SUnits it reported: > > It made 874 mutants, 873 got killed, 1 was terminated. > > Which means I don't have any head scratching this afternoon. > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > >

Sept. 22, 2009

[Pharo-project] Mutation Testing

by John M McIntosh

Although I didn't get to see the presentation on Mutation Testing at ESUG, I did have a chance to see it the following week after my XtC talk in London. At the time I had promised to try it out. http://www.slideshare.net/esug/mutation-testing My Fractions Calculator has 105 Sunits to confirm the keyboard state machine works, the calculator grammar via Smacc is sane, and the math results are as defined by either Wolfram Alpha, or Microsoft Excel rules. Actually the number of tests are 210 because they are subclassed for Excel, but running just the Wolfram Alpha based ones were sufficient to test the code base. I had two problems, one where the RBParser choked on #(#foo:. #bar:.) Oops the code really should have been #(#foo: #bar:) or {#foo:. #bar:.}, still it shouldn't have given a walkback. The second was that I had to increase the memory ceiling of the macintosh squeak carbon VM from 512MB to 1.5GB via the info.plist so that a recursive error situation would not make the VM run out of memory before the Mutation testing runtime monitor would kill the runaway task. As a result over the 105 SUnits it reported: It made 874 mutants, 873 got killed, 1 was terminated. Which means I don't have any head scratching this afternoon. -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Less Complex Development Image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok we will probably remove it. stef On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Ken Dickey wrote: > Greetings, > > I was disappointed to download the latest development image and find > the old Complex cruft hanging around. > > Is there a compelling application that this enables? > > I would really prefer that the Complex class be removed from the 1.0 > candidate. > > Thanks for listening, > -KenD > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by example: version naming

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I assume that the authors are trying to gradually release it, get some feedback, and then ultimately make it difficult to miss. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:35 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by example: version naming The thing is that it is not here: http://pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: http://pharo-project.org/PharoByExample aka, the first hit on google. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Daniel P Zepeda Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:11 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo by example: version naming On Sep 22, 2009, at 5:57 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > It's nice to see the book available! Thanks, and congratulations!! Really? Where is it? I don't see it on the Pharo website. I looked through the archives and couldn't find a mention of it. DZ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 22, 2009

[Pharo-project] Less Complex Development Image

by Ken Dickey

Greetings, I was disappointed to download the latest development image and find the old Complex cruft hanging around. Is there a compelling application that this enables? I would really prefer that the Complex class be removed from the 1.0 candidate. Thanks for listening, -KenD

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] implementors of

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El mar, 22-09-2009 a las 08:51 -0700, Ross Boylan escribiÃ³: > On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 10:45 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ross Boylan <ross(a)biostat.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > > In the system browser I have PRAjaxSearchWidget>>renderContentOn: > > > selected. When I hit the "implementors" button, or when I highlight a > > > method name in the body of renderContentOn: and hit alt-m, I only get > > > implementors of renderContentOn:. > > > > > > Is it supposed to work this way? Is there a convenient way to get a > > > list of all the methods in body of renderContentOn:, and pick one to see > > > its implementors (as in vanilla squeak, at least 3.10). > > > > > > I'm working with Pier-1.2.app.zip downloaded a few days ago from the > > > Pier site. Running on Linux. > > > > The list of messages sent in a method only appears in some browsers > > and not others (this is a choice of Colin and/or Lukas who don't like > > this list IIRC). So, if you can't live without this list, you have to > > install the O2-based browsers. Since it's a bit tricky, I advise you > O2 = ? > > to use the latest Pharo web (http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download) > I don't see a web version there, even if I go to > http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299. > > Do I need to load Pier into that image, or is it already there? > > By any chance do the latest Pharo's fix the DNS problem I reported > earlier (namely, name lookups don't work)? Someone said it was a known > issue, though the only report I could find was for MS Windows and I'm on > Linux. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=794 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1031 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=961 > > and change the default browser (click on the top-right icon of any > > browser and 'Choose new default Browser'). > Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] implementors of

by Ross Boylan

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 08:51 -0700, Ross Boylan wrote: > > to use the latest Pharo web > (http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download) > I don't see a web version there, even if I go to > http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299. Duh! This must mean the image labelled seaside and pier. The one on the download page looks a bit dated, though. Should I update from the web (assuming DNS works!), or get something else? Ross

Sept. 22, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] implementors of

by Ross Boylan

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 10:45 +0200, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Ross Boylan <ross(a)biostat.ucsf.edu> wrote: > > In the system browser I have PRAjaxSearchWidget>>renderContentOn: > > selected. When I hit the "implementors" button, or when I highlight a > > method name in the body of renderContentOn: and hit alt-m, I only get > > implementors of renderContentOn:. > > > > Is it supposed to work this way? Is there a convenient way to get a > > list of all the methods in body of renderContentOn:, and pick one to see > > its implementors (as in vanilla squeak, at least 3.10). > > > > I'm working with Pier-1.2.app.zip downloaded a few days ago from the > > Pier site. Running on Linux. > > The list of messages sent in a method only appears in some browsers > and not others (this is a choice of Colin and/or Lukas who don't like > this list IIRC). So, if you can't live without this list, you have to > install the O2-based browsers. Since it's a bit tricky, I advise you O2 = ? > to use the latest Pharo web (http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download) I don't see a web version there, even if I go to http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299. Do I need to load Pier into that image, or is it already there? By any chance do the latest Pharo's fix the DNS problem I reported earlier (namely, name lookups don't work)? Someone said it was a known issue, though the only report I could find was for MS Windows and I'm on Linux. > and change the default browser (click on the top-right icon of any > browser and 'Choose new default Browser'). Thanks.

Sept. 22, 2009