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Re: [Pharo-project] Opening image multiple times - bug or feature?

by John M McIntosh

It's a feature, the virtual machines take care to only open the image file as read-only and read it into memory, then close it. Optionally on the macintosh, and always on the iPhone the image could be mmapped by the Virtual memory manager's file vnode mapper instead of being read into memory in a single read. It's only opened as writeable if you save the image. The changes and source file if found are opened and managed like so: /Users/johnmci/Documents/Squeak3.8.0/build/SqueakV39.sources {If found, this is opened read only} /Users/johnmci/Shared/PharoCore-1.0-10451-BETA/PharoCore-1.0-10451- BETA.changes {If found, this is opened first as read/write, but can fall back to read only} The error generated by not finding the changes/sources depends on your image preferences. IE ignore missing changes/source file On 2009-09-24, at 12:14 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm getting Ubuntu configured on my new $400 laptop, and just > noticed that I can load one Pharo image at least twice w/o any error > messages. Is that good or bad? I'm inclined to say it is bad, with > caveats below. > > I mentioned caveats: I have mixed feelings about Pharo's emulated/ > MDI GUI. There have been (rare) times when it would have been nice > to be able to do something similar on Dolphin. If there is a reason > to run multiple IDEs on one box, having them clearly separated by a > single main window has some advantages. > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Opening image multiple times - bug or feature?

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El jue, 24-09-2009 a las 15:14 -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K escribiÃ³: > Hello all, > > I'm getting Ubuntu configured on my new $400 laptop, and just noticed that I can load one Pharo image at least twice w/o any error messages. Is that good or bad? I'm inclined to say it is bad, with caveats below. > Isn't a problem at all, at least as you don't save both images because the share the changes files. > I mentioned caveats: I have mixed feelings about Pharo's emulated/MDI GUI. There have been (rare) times when it would have been nice to be able to do something similar on Dolphin. If there is a reason to run multiple IDEs on one box, having them clearly separated by a single main window has some advantages. > By exploting this feature, you can launch a lot of running images from the same disk image and, as long as you don't save them, you can, for example, scale Seaside applications. > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Opening image multiple times - bug or feature?

by Michael van der Gulik

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm getting Ubuntu configured on my new $400 laptop, and just noticed that > I can load one Pharo image at least twice w/o any error messages. Is that > good or bad? I'm inclined to say it is bad, with caveats below. > > I mentioned caveats: I have mixed feelings about Pharo's emulated/MDI GUI. > There have been (rare) times when it would have been nice to be able to do > something similar on Dolphin. If there is a reason to run multiple IDEs on > one box, having them clearly separated by a single main window has some > advantages. > > Did Pharo implement image locking to prevent this? You'll notice that if you save code from both running instances, your .changes file will be corrupted. Otherwise it works fine. Gulik -- http://gulik.pbwiki.com/

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] '.2e2' asNumber ?

by John M McIntosh

Ok, well I'm going to go away and build a test suite to check for all combos of '.' '1.' '1.2' '.e' '1.e' '1.2e' '1.2e3' '-1.e' '-1.2e-3' so we can at least agree on what a valid number is. On 2009-09-24, at 6:57 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > SqNumberParser>>fail > failBlock isNil ifFalse: [^failBlock value]. > self error: 'Reading a number failed' > -- = = = ======================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com = = = ========================================================================

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Spring in November, Argentina

by Alexandre Bergel

Hernan, I would also like to buy my flight ticket. Cheers, Alexandre On 24 Sep 2009, at 15:35, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > Have we arrived at an agreement on the date for the Sprint? I would > like to reserve my seat before it gets too near the effective travel > date. . . > > > Em 21/09/2009 13:28, Alexandre Bergel < alexandre(a)bergel.eu > > escreveu: > > >> Both the day before and after the conference are fine with me. >> Alexandre >> On 21 Sep 2009, at 12:25, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: >> >>> Alex, if we change the date, is that a problem for you? >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: In >>> that case, you should not say that the conference ends after >>> lunch, but after the Pharo Sprint. It does not make a difference >>> from the logistic point of view, but it does in people mind. >>> Cheers, Alexandre >>> On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>> We planned to do it on Wednesday 18... On Sunday the >>>>> University is not open.... >>>> This is pity, since Sunday has better chance to gather people. >>>> It will be on Wednesday then. I will buy my flight today or >>> tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Yeah. If we do it on Wednesday few people will be able to >>>> attend. HernÃ¡n is looking for another option. >>>> Another option is to do it on Saturday, after the >>>> conference. The conference finishes after lunch. So, we have all >>>> the afternoon/ evening. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Mariano >>>> Cheers, Alexandre >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 3:22 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > wrote: for >>>>> me this is ok too. this can also be the sunday before since I >>>>> will arrive from chile >>>> the >>>>> firday evening. stef >>>>> On Sep 18, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Do we know the exact day of the sprint? I suggest during >>>> weekend as > > most of us has to work during the week. It would >>>> be nice on >>> Sunday >>>>>> 22 but I don't know if the University is open. >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >>>>>> Done. you're on the list. >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:21, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> My first name is Cesar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Em 09/09/2009 13:29, Alexandre Bergel < >>>>>>> alexandre(a)bergel.eu >>>>>> >>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can add it. What is your firstname - name ? >>>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2009, at 10:00, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would it suffice I add a comment in the wiki or should I >>>> get >>>>>> some >>>>>>>> specific id in order to edit the wiki page itself? >>>>>>>> BTW, if anything else fails:: I'm attemting to apply :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Em 08/09/2009 15:10, Alexandre Bergel < >>>>> alexandre(a)bergel.eu >>>>>>>> escreveu: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear List, >>>>>>>> I added a section in the Sprint wiki page: >>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints?ts=1252433348&updated=Phar… >>>>>>>> People should add their name. I will send a remainder a >>> few >>>>>> days >>>>>>>> before the event. >>>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Spring in November, Argentina

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Have we arrived at an agreement on the date for the Sprint? I would like to reserve my seat before it gets too near the effective travel date. . . Em 21/09/2009 13:28, Alexandre Bergel < alexandre(a)bergel.eu > escreveu: > Both the day before and after the conference are fine with me. > Alexandre > On 21 Sep 2009, at 12:25, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > > > Alex, if we change the date, is that a problem for you? > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Alexandre Bergel > wrote: In > > that case, you should not say that the conference ends after > > lunch, but after the Pharo Sprint. It does not make a difference > > from the logistic point of view, but it does in people mind. > > Cheers, Alexandre > > On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:19, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > > We planned to do it on Wednesday 18... On Sunday the > > > > University is not open.... > > > This is pity, since Sunday has better chance to gather people. > > > It will be on Wednesday then. I will buy my flight today or > > tomorrow. > > > > > > Yeah. If we do it on Wednesday few people will be able to > > > attend. HernÃ¡n is looking for another option. > > > Another option is to do it on Saturday, after the > > > conference. The conference finishes after lunch. So, we have all > > > the afternoon/ evening. > > > Cheers, > > > Mariano > > > Cheers, Alexandre > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 3:22 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > wrote: for > > > > me this is ok too. this can also be the sunday before since I > > > > will arrive from chile > > > the > > > > firday evening. stef > > > > On Sep 18, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > > Do we know the exact day of the sprint? I suggest during > > > weekend as > > most of us has to work during the week. It would > > > be nice on > > Sunday > > > > > 22 but I don't know if the University is open. > > > > > Best, > > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > > > Done. you're on the list. > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > On 10 Sep 2009, at 17:21, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > My first name is Cesar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Em 09/09/2009 13:29, Alexandre Bergel < > > > > > > alexandre(a)bergel.eu > > > > > > > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > I can add it. What is your firstname - name ? > > > > > > Alexandre > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9 Sep 2009, at 10:00, csrabak(a)bol.com.br wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it suffice I add a comment in the wiki or should I > > > get > > > > > some > > > > > > > specific id in order to edit the wiki page itself? > > > > > > > BTW, if anything else fails:: I'm attemting to apply :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Em 08/09/2009 15:10, Alexandre Bergel < > > > > alexandre(a)bergel.eu > > > > > > > escreveu: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear List, > > > > > > > I added a section in the Sprint wiki page: > > > > > > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints?ts=1252433348&updated=Phar… > > > > > > > People should add their name. I will send a remainder a > > few > > > > > days > > > > > > > before the event. > > > > > > >

Sept. 24, 2009

[Pharo-project] Opening image multiple times - bug or feature?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, I'm getting Ubuntu configured on my new $400 laptop, and just noticed that I can load one Pharo image at least twice w/o any error messages. Is that good or bad? I'm inclined to say it is bad, with caveats below. I mentioned caveats: I have mixed feelings about Pharo's emulated/MDI GUI. There have been (rare) times when it would have been nice to be able to do something similar on Dolphin. If there is a reason to run multiple IDEs on one box, having them clearly separated by a single main window has some advantages. Bill

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fileout the test results

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Bernhard Pieber <bernhard(a)pieber.com>wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > I agree it would be a cool feature to add to the TestRunner. I guess > it is even quite simple. > > In the meantime this is what I do: > 1. Shift-Click with middle mouse button on the list, so that the halos > for the PluggableListMorphPlus are show. > 2. Click on the red Menu halo and select the menu item "copy list to > clipboard". > Hi Bernhard! I tried but I didn't finde a "copy list to clipboard". I am using pharo1.0-10451-BETAdev09.09.3 > 3. VoilÃ ! > > There is even a "copy selection to clipboard". > > This is Morphic at its best IMO. > > Cheers, > Bernhard > > Am 24.09.2009 um 15:22 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > > > Hi folks: Several times, I wanted to send by email for example, the > > results of running some tests. The only and ugly way I found to do > > this is using PrintScreen and send the screenshots. Now, the > > question is, is there a way to file out the results? Not only the > > amount (the number) of success, failures, error, expected failures, > > but also which tests where the failures, errors, etc. > > > > I would love to do this from the Test Runner, no by code. > > > > Best, > > > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fileout the test results

by Bernhard Pieber

Hi Mariano, I agree it would be a cool feature to add to the TestRunner. I guess it is even quite simple. In the meantime this is what I do: 1. Shift-Click with middle mouse button on the list, so that the halos for the PluggableListMorphPlus are show. 2. Click on the red Menu halo and select the menu item "copy list to clipboard". 3. VoilÃ ! There is even a "copy selection to clipboard". This is Morphic at its best IMO. Cheers, Bernhard Am 24.09.2009 um 15:22 schrieb Mariano Martinez Peck: > Hi folks: Several times, I wanted to send by email for example, the > results of running some tests. The only and ugly way I found to do > this is using PrintScreen and send the screenshots. Now, the > question is, is there a way to file out the results? Not only the > amount (the number) of success, failures, error, expected failures, > but also which tests where the failures, errors, etc. > > I would love to do this from the Test Runner, no by code. > > Best, > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 24, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fileout the test results

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes but so far I think that we should improve TestServerSimple. >> >>> Hi folks: Several times, I wanted to send by email for example, >>> the results of running some tests. The only and ugly way I found >>> to do this is using PrintScreen and send the screenshots. Now, the >>> question is, is there a way to file out the results? Not only the >>> amount (the number) of success, failures, error, expected >>> failures, but also which tests where the failures, errors, etc. >> >> You can take a look at http://www.squeaksource.com/TestServerSimple.html >> for some samples of code. >> >> >> Wow! I wasn't aware of that project. What's the idea of that >> project? I didn't find any information there. > > Just having a simple automated engine to run tests for Moose > automatically. The code is adapted from some previous project in > Switzerland and, to be honest, it's pretty much a hack leaving > plenty of dead code behind. Configuration of projects to test is > hard-coded. I am working on a new TestServer which would use > Metacello configurations. > > > Sounds excellent. I really would love to have continuous integration > in Pharo. > Are you aware of http://www.squeaksource.com/ > ContIntegration.html ?? > > Perhaps you can join efforts... > >> >> However, I was thinking in something much more simpler. For newbies >> (like me hahaha) or people who may want to contribute to Pharo just >> testing and sending the reports. Perhaps a simple button in Test >> Runner that says "Fileout results". So that he can send the file to >> the mailing list or whatever. >> >> what do you think ? > > That's a very good idea. We need more power tools for the tests > anyway. I would also like to see more powerful features for > regression testing (there is a basic test history only accessible > through the TestRunner right now) > > > Excellent! > > >> >>> >>> I would love to do this from the Test Runner, no by code. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Mariano >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> Simon >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Simon > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 24, 2009